Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 04:18:17PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:
Eugene V. Lyubimkin jac...@debian.org writes:
On 2012-07-10 15:32, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 10 juillet 2012 à 17:38 +0900, Miles Bader a écrit :
What's wrong with
Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes:
]] Gergely Nagy
Instead of fighting for Recommends, which would break your system in
various interesting ways later on[1], there's a third solution: noone
stops anyone from uploading a gnome-minimal package, which depends on
gnome-session and a few
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes:
On Jo, 12 iul 12, 15:46:05, Gergely Nagy wrote:
X) Downgrade stuff to recommends
I do not consider this a solution, for reasons explained elsewhere,
where my main concern is that it breaks the assumption
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes:
On Jo, 12 iul 12, 12:10:29, Gergely Nagy wrote:
Erm, how have I broken my system? I did not. (Turning Install-Recommends
off is definitely not breaking my system, FYI.)
It means you are running with a non-default configuration and you should
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes:
On Jo, 12 iul 12, 17:44:52, Gergely Nagy wrote:
Then some time later during upgrade it'll upgrade all packages
but will not install N-M; at the same time it'll install
new package that was added to Recommends in that new version.
As far
Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org writes:
Please don't forget that a Recommends will pull in packages in all but
unusual installations :)
But also keep in mind, that once a package is installed, adding new
recommends will not pull those new things in on an upgrade.
I've been
Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com writes:
I don't claim to be a networking expert, but I believe half the
conversation here is based on wrong or outdated information.
My (personal) complaint about NM is that it doesn't correct correctly
work with NFS mounts, I believe because it doesn't run at the
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes:
issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of
non-standard setups
My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use
non-standard setups usually start by purging NM instead of trying to
spend weeks reading the source code to
Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu writes:
if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
recommends *is* wrong.
Er, no.
Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible...
Upstream's view is a good _default_, but such judgements should be
made based on the reality on the
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 07:27 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
]] Gergely Nagy
Instead of fighting for Recommends, which would break your system in
various interesting ways later on[1], there's a third solution: noone
stops anyone from uploading a gnome-minimal package, which
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes:
Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu writes:
if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
recommends *is* wrong.
Er, no.
Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite fallible...
Upstream's view is a good _default_, but such judgements
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a file-manager, as well as .txt files, as
well as anything.
That is when using
Is there a list of software which should
be used instead of some old software?
That is, should orphaned packages stay orphaned
for a good reason.
Also, are people wasting time in packaging
oldies which should be orphaned?
However, I checked that openscenegraph (OSG).
Seems like it is not used
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Le 13/07/12 11:21, Juhana Sadeharju a écrit :
Is there a list of software which should be used instead of some
old software? That is, should orphaned packages stay orphaned for a
good reason.
Also, are people wasting time in packaging oldies
On 13/07/2012 11:13, Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a file-manager, as well as
Hi,
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 18:13 +0900, Norbert Preining a écrit :
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a
Hi,
2012-07-13 11:13, Norbert Preining skrev:
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the*next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a file-manager, as well as
On 07/13/2012 02:25 AM, w...@debian.org wrote:
The following packages have been orphaned:
ginspector (#681284), orphaned today
Installations reported by Popcon: 52
...
For the following packages help is
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Thibaut Paumard writes:
Le 13/07/12 11:21, Juhana Sadeharju a écrit :
Is there a list of software which should be used instead of some
old software? That is, should orphaned packages stay orphaned for a
good reason.
Also, are people wasting
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Le 13/07/12 12:13, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
see is obsolete. Maybe the target for the next release could be to
get rid of it.
Please don't.
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Le 13/07/12 12:41, Alberto Luaces a écrit :
Thibaut Paumard writes:
Le 13/07/12 11:21, Juhana Sadeharju a écrit :
However, I checked that openscenegraph (OSG). Seems like it is
not used much, but as scenegraph fan myself, I don't know
better
* Per Olofsson pe...@dsv.su.se [120713 12:18]:
1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works.
It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also
add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that using
it for opening mail attachements or stuff downloaded (i.e.
On Friday 13 July 2012 13:45:19 Bernhard R. Link wrote:
* Per Olofsson pe...@dsv.su.se [120713 12:18]:
1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works.
It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also
add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that
Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 14:26 +0200, George Danchev a écrit :
It you want to make xdg-open useable for everything, please also
add a way to specify the mime type as option. Without that using
it for opening mail attachements or stuff downloaded (i.e. things
that already show a mime
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:13:15PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
see is obsolete.
Says who?
Andreas.
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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:13:43PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened with a
Hi fellow Debian folks,
Please, when composing debian/changelog for package releases, take a
moment to reflect on what you put into that file and how you phrase it.
It is a changelog, so should contain a list of changes.
This is not a list of changes:
python3-defaults (3.2.3-4) unstable;
Kurt wrote:
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:13:43PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
Hi everyone,
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
It is ridiculous that it is in fact completely arbitrary what
program is used to open files. Currently in my gnome-shell
pdfs are opened
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 06:13:43PM +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
can we somehome make $subject a target for the *next* release?
Hi,
Please consider making this a release goal when we call for them after
the release.
Thanks,
Neil
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Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 16:26 +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit :
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:13:15PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
see is obsolete.
Says who?
As your mailer made pretty clear, I am the author of the above sentence.
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Le vendredi 13 juillet 2012 à 17:32 +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit :
Kurt wrote:
pdfs are opened with gimp for me.
I'm seeing that too, and it's ludicrous.
See 1342174395.18031.15.camel@pi0307572 for the explanation.
(Also, gimp shouldn’t be a PDF handler, but that’s another issue.)
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On 13.07.2012 18:41, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
pdfs are opened with gimp for me.
They are opened in gimp for me too and it doesn't understand them how
it should. I would prefer them to be opened in Evince.
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[...]
The amount of extra work necessary is minimal though.
Not so minimal if you want your gnome set to be up to date, including new
applications being installed.
It is very minimal. 5 minutes of work. Been there, done that, posted the
bulk of the solution, and a general outline of
❦ 13 juillet 2012 12:18 CEST, Per Olofsson pe...@dsv.su.se :
1. Rewrite xdg-utils so that it is robust and always works. Instead of
relying on desktop environments, it should do the needed work by
itself. Currently it's something of a hack, especially when running in
generic mode. It should
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk (13/07/2012):
Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make
sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^
SNCR,
KiBi.
signature.asc
Description: Digital signature
Package: wnpp
Owner: Mario Lang ml...@debian.org
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: bmc
Version : 0.0.1
Upstream Author : Mario Lang ml...@delysid.org
* URL or Web page : https://github.com/mlang/bmc
* License : GPLv3
Description : Braille Music Compiler
BMC aims to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joenio Costa joe...@colivre.coop.br
* Package name: google-apps
Version : 0.002
Upstream Author : Joenio Costa joe...@colivre.coop.br
* URL : http://metacpan.org/release/GoogleApps
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: Perl
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Georges Khaznadar georg...@ofset.org
* Package name: screenkey
Version : 0-2
Upstream Author : Pablo Seminario pab...@gmail.com
* URL : http://pabloseminario.com/projects/screenkey/
* License : GPL-3
Programming Lang:
That seems a reasonable plan to me. I've orphaned the mime-support
package, however, because I have no time to work on it right now and do not
expect to have any for the foreseeable future.
-- Brian
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org wrote:
❦ 13 juillet 2012
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 07:33:09 Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
I *hate* doing things manually, that's why I'm using a bloody high-level
package manager. If it forces me to double-guess it, check a lot of
things during upgrades, I might aswell go back to downloading packages
by hand and
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:05:10 Gergely Nagy wrote:
[...]
On one hand, you have, in the depends case:
# apt-get remove gstreamer-plugins-good
Which will try to remove the whole world, including the meta, and that
will ring alarm bells.
Or in the recommends case:
# apt-get
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:09:58 Gergely Nagy wrote:
Gergely Nagy alger...@madhouse-project.org writes:
Please don't forget that a Recommends will pull in packages in all but
unusual installations :)
But also keep in mind, that once a package is installed, adding new
recommends
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 08:38:47 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes:
issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of
non-standard setups
My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use
non-standard setups usually
On Viernes, 13 de julio de 2012 09:38:45 Gergely Nagy wrote:
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes:
Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu writes:
if upstream considers a package a core part of a platform,
recommends *is* wrong.
Er, no.
Upstreams are not infallible, and are often quite
Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org writes:
I *hate* doing things manually, that's why I'm using a bloody high-level
metapackage. If it forces me to deinstall N-M by hand using
--force-depends (because it breaks my Pidgin) every time I use aptitude
to install something, either related
Hi,
Eshat Cakar made a package for screenkey already. As far as I know it
was in a good shape and only lacked a sponsor until he gave up
eventually. Maybe get in touch with him (CC:-ed) to save duplicate work.
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On 12-07-13 at 08:39pm, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk (13/07/2012):
Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make
sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^
SNCR,
KiBi.
I fail to extract any meaning out of the above.
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 12:24:44AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On 12-07-13 at 08:39pm, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk (13/07/2012):
Please proofread your changelog before releasing a packaging, and make
sure all entries describe what was _changed_. ^
Adam Borowski writes (Re: Recommends for metapackages):
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 09:32:19PM -0600, Philipp Kern wrote:
On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 07:21:00PM +0100, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
Installing N-M breaks unrelated software.
No. At most it breaks *related* software.
Exactly,
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Carlos Jenkins cjenkins@silver
* Package name: python-gtkspellcheck
Version : 2.4
Upstream Author : Maximilian Köhl linuxm...@googlemail.com Carlos Jenkins
car...@jenkins.co.cr
* URL :
Le Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 10:12:34PM +0200, Brian White a écrit :
That seems a reasonable plan to me. I've orphaned the mime-support
package, however, because I have no time to work on it right now and do not
expect to have any for the foreseeable future.
Dear Brian,
I could not find the WNPP
[sorry for the lengthy quoting below]
On 12/07/12 10:10, Gergely Nagy wrote:
Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org writes:
Not so minimal if you want your gnome set to be up to date, including new
applications being installed.
It is very minimal. 5 minutes of work. Been there, done
Hi Raphaël and Guillem,
in http://bugs.debian.org/681289, Raphaël proposed that the Changelog and
copyright should be package metadata. I personally like the idea, but I note
that last time it was introduced on debian-devel, it was not consensual
Hi debian-devel list!
Please help me to write a proper `debian/copyright` file.
Original COPYING file says:
Several parties hold copyright to various parts of IRRToolSet. One or more
of the following licenses may apply to the code contained within this
distribution.
1. USC (and occasionally
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python2.7-minimal - Minimal subset of the Python language (version 2.7)
Closes: 680930 681348
Changes:
python2.7 (2.7.3-2) unstable; urgency=low
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* Update to 20120713, taken from the 2.7 branch.
- Issue #15033: Fix the exit status bug when modules invoked using -m
swith,
return
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