Namespaces (was Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment)

2012-07-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 13:00:14 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:22:06PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit : Let's please keep the namespace clean. I'll talk with whoever introduced it, but we can upload a temp metapackage and upload it with time for a beer after.

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Vincent Lefevre On 2012-07-23 15:55:27 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Vincent Lefevre On 2012-07-23 10:21:04 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Vincent Lefevre OK, if Debian plans to support other init systems, that's fine. It already does. Not really,

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery Personally, I would love to see us create a common tool that would perform these sorts of actions for whatever init system one is using, whatever that may be. Maybe we can keep update-rc.d as that tool and teach it to take appropriate action for systemd, upstart, etc., when

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Filipus Klutiero You are not a Debian developer. I am. You don't seem to be in LDAP, nor in the keyring, so no, you're not, unless you're posting under some alias or similar. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 07/24/2012 12:00 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Also, we should not favor software written in the context of our downstream distributions, compared to sofware written independantly, otherwise the take home message will be that if one project wants to own a dictionary word in Debian, they just

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, constructive messages would be more productive than name-calling. If you think that your messages are constructive, well, you're wrong. You're repeating the same arguments

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 07/22/2012 01:24 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: Lars Wirzenius wrote: In my opinion, _every_ technical committee decision should be posted to debian-devel-announce. Any time that the TC needs to make a decision, it's already an unusual circumstance, and usually something's gone wrong. It's

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 24 juillet 2012 09.03:30, Philipp Kern a écrit : On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, constructive messages would be more productive than name-calling. If you think that your messages are

Re: glibc very old

2012-07-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-07-24 13:45:08 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net writes: By correct, I mean that the result is somewhat acceptable (not that the result is correctly rounded and the rounding direction is honored), instead of getting completely wrong values or even a

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-07-24 08:16:43 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Vincent Lefevre On 2012-07-23 15:55:27 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Vincent Lefevre On 2012-07-23 10:21:04 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Vincent Lefevre OK, if Debian plans to support other init

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Vincent Lefevre But in such a case, sysvinit shouldn't be an essential package (and packages that need it should thus have an explicit dependency on it), since it isn't really needed in a working Debian system. And people are working towards that goal. We won't be there for wheezy, but

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

2012-07-24 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
I agree with Josselin here. There is no point in forking gconf and other libraries. Even worse, this will increase the incompatibility between different desktops. For example, an app making use of gconftool-2 will not work when there's mateconftool-2 in the system instead. If you want to fix a

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:31:26AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-07-24 08:16:43 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: I don't think it follows at all that because there are init systems which conflict with sysvinit, Debian does not support multiple init systems. But in such a case,

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36:51AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le mardi, 24 juillet 2012 09.03:30, Philipp Kern a écrit : On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, constructive messages would be more

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:28:16PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 07/24/2012 12:00 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: Also, we should not favor software written in the context of our downstream distributions, compared to sofware written independantly, otherwise the take home message will be that if

Bug#682661: ITP: powerdebug -- tool to display regulator, sensor and clock information

2012-07-24 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marcin Juszkiewicz marcin.juszkiew...@linaro.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: powerdebug Version : 0.6.1-2011.10 Upstream Author : Linaro Power Management Working Group linaro-pm...@lists.launchpad.net *

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Sorry for replying to myself, but here are some updates: that it might add difficulties in the future if we don't use the same names for the same thing will not help. Ubuntu'e `melange' is Deprecated, and is pending removal from the archive (see launchpad[1]). It's deprecated

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: /usr/include/features.h referes to bits/predefs.h, but no bits link or dir in /usr/include

2012-07-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: # affects many libraries, not just libc reassign 682678 general Bug #682678 [libc6-dev] /usr/include/features.h referes to bits/predefs.h, but no bits link or dir in /usr/include Bug reassigned from package 'libc6-dev' to 'general'. No longer

Processed: Re: /usr/include/features.h referes to bits/predefs.h, but no bits link or dir in /usr/include

2012-07-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: forcemerge 637232 682678 Bug #637232 [general] general: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain Bug #639214 [general] eglibc: changes to paths concerning crt1.o, crti.o and crtn.o breaks building LLVM Trunk Bug #644986 [general]

Bug#682692: ITP: tcl-fitstcl -- Tcl interface to FITS Files

2012-07-24 Thread Ole Streicher
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher deb...@liska.ath.cx X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-scie...@lists.debian.org * Package name: tcl-fitstcl Version : 2.3 Upstream Author : Have to ask - probably William Pence, Pan Chai * URL :

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-07-24 12:26:33 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: If the package description had said that, it would have been less confusing. It's strange for a package description to focus on non-native features! I don't know what you mean by non-native features. Support for SysV init scripts is

Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Artem Leshchev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Artem Leshchev w...@gwerewolf.ru * Package name: crtools Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : OpenVZ Team someb...@example.org * URL : http://criu.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Assembler Description : tools

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2012 11:00:37 PM Filipus Klutiero wrote: Which kind of idiotic distraction? The one where you continue this pointless thread. I don't think this thread is pointless; it is simply too noisy. If it isn't clear to you already let me try one more

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Russ, Russ Allbery wrote: Filipus Klutierochea...@gmail.com writes: The second highest decision-making body in question is also our lowest conflict resolution body. I for one am not interested in reading the outcome of each small claims case. You have been heard. I've read all of

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Filipus Klutiero You are not a Debian developer. I am. You don't seem to be in LDAP, nor in the keyring, so no, you're not, unless you're posting under some alias or similar. I am posting under an alias, but in any case, Debian's LDAP and keyring only

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Philipp, Philipp Kern wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, constructive messages would be more productive than name-calling. If you think that your messages are constructive, well, you're wrong.

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Ulrich Dangel
On 07/25/12 02:15, Filipus Klutiero wrote: You don't seem to be in LDAP, nor in the keyring, so no, you're not, unless you're posting under some alias or similar. I am posting under an alias, but in any case, Debian's LDAP and keyring only contain a fraction of developers. This is true for

Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Thread broken as topic changes. In-Reply-To: 500f3c96.90...@spamt.net Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 02:23:50AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel a écrit : From http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper: A Debian developer (DD) is a Debian Project Member who has uploading rights. Hi Ulrich, this page (and

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 09:43:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 02:23:50AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel a écrit : From http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper: A Debian developer (DD) is a Debian Project Member who has uploading rights. this page (and probably others) does

Re: Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Artem Leshchev wrote: * Package name: crtools ... Checkpoint/Restore In Userspace, or CRIU, is a tool, that can freeze a running application (or part of it) and checkpoint it to a hard drive as a collection of files. You can then use the files to restore and run

Re: Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 22:19 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Artem Leshchev wrote: * Package name: crtools ... Checkpoint/Restore In Userspace, or CRIU, is a tool, that can freeze a running application (or part of it) and checkpoint it to a hard drive as a

Re: Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Filipus Klutiero (chea...@gmail.com): The purpose of debian-devel-announce is for communicating announcements *to people involved with the development of Debian*. You are not a Debian developer. I am. Philippe, if you want to prove you're a DD, then sign you mails, please. I

Re: Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 25/07/12 04:19, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Artem Leshchev wrote: * Package name: crtools ... Checkpoint/Restore In Userspace, or CRIU, is a tool, that can freeze a running application (or part of it) and checkpoint it to a hard drive as a collection of files.

Accepted rebuildd 0.4.2 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Julien Danjou
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 16:50:03 +0200 Source: rebuildd Binary: rebuildd Architecture: source all Version: 0.4.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Julien Danjou a...@debian.org Changed-By: Julien Danjou a...@debian.org

Accepted mmass 5.2.0-2 (source all amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Filippo Rusconi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 14:23:47 +0200 Source: mmass Binary: mmass mmass-modules Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 5.2.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: The Debichem Group debichem-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted network-manager-openconnect 0.9.5.95-1 (source amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Mike Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:44:45 -0400 Source: network-manager-openconnect Binary: network-manager-openconnect network-manager-openconnect-gnome Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.9.5.95-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low

Accepted nlopt 2.2.4+dfsg-2 (source amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Christophe Trophime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:05:11 +0200 Source: nlopt Binary: libnlopt0 libnlopt-dev python-nlopt octave-nlopt libnlopt-guile0 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.2.4+dfsg-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Science

Accepted libsql-abstract-perl 1.73-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Xavier Guimard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2012 19:30:57 +0200 Source: libsql-abstract-perl Binary: libsql-abstract-perl Architecture: source all Version: 1.73-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted mimedefang 2.73-1 (source amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Christoph Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:25:00 +0200 Source: mimedefang Binary: mimedefang graphdefang Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.73-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christoph Martin christoph.mar...@uni-mainz.de

Accepted urfkill 0.4.0-1 (source i386)

2012-07-24 Thread Keng-Yu Lin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:48:51 +0800 Source: urfkill Binary: urfkill liburfkill-glib0 liburfkill-glib-dev liburfkill-glib0-dbg gir1.2-urfkill-glib0 Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.4.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted qxmpp 0.6.3-1 (source all amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Jeremy Lainé
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:18:28 +0200 Source: qxmpp Binary: libqxmpp0 libqxmpp-dev libqxmpp-doc Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 0.6.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jeremy Lainé jeremy.la...@m4x.org Changed-By:

Accepted moodle 2.2.3.dfsg-2.2 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Didier Raboud
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 19:13:56 +0200 Source: moodle Binary: moodle Architecture: source all Version: 2.2.3.dfsg-2.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Moodle Packaging Team pkg-moodle-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted libemail-mime-perl 1.911-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:00:11 +0200 Source: libemail-mime-perl Binary: libemail-mime-perl Architecture: source all Version: 1.911-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted bzr-explorer 1.3.0-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 19:29:39 + Source: bzr-explorer Binary: bzr-explorer Architecture: source all Version: 1.3.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Bazaar Maintainers pkg-bazaar-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted nodau 0.3~rc7-1 (source amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 22:38:52 +0200 Source: nodau Binary: nodau Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.3~rc7-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Salvatore Bonaccorso car...@debian.org Changed-By: Salvatore Bonaccorso

Accepted libcpan-perl-releases-perl 0.62-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Nuno Carvalho
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:36:25 +0100 Source: libcpan-perl-releases-perl Binary: libcpan-perl-releases-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.62-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted python-qt4 4.9.3-4 (source i386 all)

2012-07-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 16:12:15 -0400 Source: python-qt4 Binary: python-qt4 python3-pyqt4 python-qt4-dbg python3-pyqt4-dbg python-qt4-phonon python3-pyqt4.phonon python-qt4-phonon-dbg python3-pyqt4.phonon-dbg python-qt4-dbus

Accepted xfoil 6.97.dfsg-5 (source amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Євгеній Мещеряков
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:56:26 +0200 Source: xfoil Binary: xfoil Architecture: source amd64 Version: 6.97.dfsg-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Євгеній Мещеряков eu...@debian.org Changed-By: Євгеній Мещеряков

Accepted libacme-bleach-perl 1.150-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Nuno Carvalho
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 20:59:17 +0100 Source: libacme-bleach-perl Binary: libacme-bleach-perl Architecture: source all Version: 1.150-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted libcps-perl 0.16-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Nuno Carvalho
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 21:44:06 +0100 Source: libcps-perl Binary: libcps-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.16-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group pkg-perl-maintain...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted cciss-vol-status 1.09-3 (source amd64)

2012-07-24 Thread Christian Hofstaedtler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:22:06 +0200 Source: cciss-vol-status Binary: cciss-vol-status Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.09-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Christian Hofstaedtler christ...@hofstaedtler.name

Accepted svn-workbench 1.6.6-1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Hideki Yamane
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 05:16:20 +0900 Source: svn-workbench Binary: svn-workbench Architecture: source all Version: 1.6.6-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.org Changed-By: Hideki Yamane

Accepted auctex 11.86-10.1 (source all)

2012-07-24 Thread Christian Perrier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:19:03 -0600 Source: auctex Binary: auctex preview-latex-style Architecture: source all Version: 11.86-10.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Davide G. M. Salvetti sa...@debian.org Changed-By: