Quoting Christian PERRIER (bubu...@debian.org):
(il est inutile de me mettre en copie car je suis abonné à 2 des 3
listes..:-))
...mais pas les trois...et il semble que la discussion ait continué
sur debian-user-french...que je ne lis pas, désolé.
Je viens de lire le fil qui s'en est suivi
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Package name: optional-dev
Version: 20120908
Author: Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org
License: GPL-3+
Description: fake (empty) dev package
Purpose of this package
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 05:08:34PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
Package: wnpp
Package name: optional-dev
There are situations when some of the libraries listed in Build-Depends
are optional i.e. build system is smart enough to avoid failure when
such library is missing.
Hi,
optional depends - what?? Thats self contradictory. If a depends it's really
optional, it's not a depends, thus that package is buggy and should not be
fixed by introducing a nonsense package, but by removing this depends.
cheers,
Holger
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On 08/09/12 08:08, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
Often some development libraries are not available on all architectures
in which case maintainer should know beforehand which architectures may
satisfy this dependency and maintain an up-to-date list of architectures
for such packages, like in the
Hi,
On 08.09.2012 13:06, Simon McVittie wrote:
It would perhaps make more sense if there was a way for the libchamplain
maintainer to nominate excluded architectures, so empathy could say
something like:
Build-Depends: libchamplain-...-dev |
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:37:33 Holger Levsen wrote:
optional depends - what?? Thats self contradictory. If a depends it's
really optional, it's not a depends, thus that package is buggy and should
not be fixed by introducing a nonsense package, but by removing this
depends.
Not at all, it may
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:30:30 Adam Borowski wrote:
I'm afraid this is a bad idea for three reasons:
1. you'd get a misbuild if libfoo-dev happens to be temporarily
uninstallable due to a transition of something it depends on,
it or one of its dependencies happen to wait for a
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 21:06:29 Simon McVittie wrote:
This doesn't really give enough guarantees (even if sbuild followed
non-first branches in alternative-lists, which IIRC it doesn't). If
champlain happens to be temporarily uninstallable on (say) powerpc at
the time the empathy build happens, we
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 22:01:17 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:37:33 Holger Levsen wrote:
optional depends - what?? Thats self contradictory. If a depends it's
really optional, it's not a depends, thus that package is buggy and should
not be fixed by introducing a nonsense
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 22:01:17 +1000
Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:37:33 Holger Levsen wrote:
optional depends - what?? Thats self contradictory. If a depends it's
really optional, it's not a depends, thus that package is buggy and should
not be fixed by
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 02:43:47PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
But I see the use case, e.g. for packages that rebuild the
documentation if some tool is available and just skip it gracefully
and use the shipped version, if not.
How do you make sure that the uploaded packages are reproducible?
[Russ Allbery]
The problem is that the software is called wallet, both the software
itself and the primary client binary that users invoke. And, of
course, we have a bunch of documentation and automation at Stanford
that assumes that name.
That actually seems like a reasonable name to me.
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 10:01:17PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:37:33 Holger Levsen wrote:
optional depends - what?? Thats self contradictory. If a depends it's
really optional, it's not a depends, thus that package is buggy and should
not be fixed by introducing a
On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:05:21 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
On Sat, Sep 08, 2012 at 02:43:47PM +0200, gregor herrmann wrote:
But I see the use case, e.g. for packages that rebuild the
documentation if some tool is available and just skip it gracefully
and use the shipped version, if not.
How
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 8:43 PM, gregor herrmann wrote:
Build-Recommends(-Indep)
I would be interested to see what real use-cases people wanted this
sort of thing for. Dimitry, which specific problem were you trying to
solve when you came up with optional-dev?
But I see the use case, e.g. for
Hi!
On Sat, 2012-09-08 at 17:08:34 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
All the above problems may be addressed by using this package as
alternative to optional build dependency like in the example below:
Build-Depends: libchamplain-gtk-0.12-dev | optional-dev,
I see.
Who knows what they'll break next.
Perhaps next time add a note to
/usr/share/doc/linux-image-486/NEWS.Debian.gz
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* Package name: androidsdk-tools
Version : 14
Upstream Author : The Android Open Source Project
* URL : https://android.googlesource.com/platform/sdk
* License : Apache 2.0
Dear all,
cia.navi.cx is deprecated, but now has stopped working.
You should use cia.vc instead.
Looking on vasks there are many team tooks that submit to cia.navi.cx
(mail mail or RPC), please update those to use cia.vc. hostname
instead.
Alioth SVN:
axel/hooks/svnmailer.conf:cia_rpc_server
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote:
If 64-bit PC is too vague, the alternative designator for the amd64 arch
is the vendor neutral x86-64. The vendor-neutral designator for all of
i386, i486, i586, i686, amd64 and x32 is x86 (i.e. it is for both 32-bit
and
Hello.
I see, that Debian Wheezy comes with new congestion control named 'yeah', it's
rather good innovation, but by my tests TCP-Fit congestion control should be
the best for now.
More information about it you can get here:
http://media.cs.tsinghua.edu.cn/~multimedia/tcp-fit/
It would be
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 06:06 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
I see.
Who knows what they'll break next.
Do you use any particular obscure features that I could suggest?
Perhaps next time add a note to
/usr/share/doc/linux-image-486/NEWS.Debian.gz
I originally proposed to do this when
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:06:52 Paul Wise wrote:
I would be interested to see what real use-cases people wanted this
sort of thing for. Dimitry, which specific problem were you trying to
solve when you came up with optional-dev?
Thanks Paul, primarily I was trying to address a problem when package
On Sun, 9 Sep 2012 00:30:41 brian m. carlson wrote:
Debian users depend on the package being built in a consistent way. For
example, some packages are built with Kerberos support. While this is
generally optional for most packages, I'd be very upset if, say, the
Debian openssh-server package
Dmitry Smirnov only...@member.fsf.org writes:
Due to risk of FTBFS maintainer should be careful with introducing
dependencies that are non-critical for upstream build.
I think the opposite is true for the Debian archive. Local package builds
and derivatives may have other needs, but within
On Sun, 09 Sep 2012, Russell Coker wrote:
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote:
If 64-bit PC is too vague, the alternative designator for the amd64 arch
is the vendor neutral x86-64. The vendor-neutral designator for all of
i386, i486, i586, i686, amd64 and
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
cia.navi.cx is deprecated, but now has stopped working.
You should use cia.vc instead.
Looking on vasks there are many team tooks that submit to cia.navi.cx
(mail mail or RPC), please update those to use cia.vc. hostname
instead.
If
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:06 AM, Alex wrote:
I see, that Debian Wheezy comes with new congestion control named 'yeah',
it's rather good innovation, but by my tests TCP-Fit congestion control
should be the best for now.
...
It would be perfect if you'll innovate this into Wheezy.
Debian
On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
Thanks Paul, primarily I was trying to address a problem when package build
unnecessarily fails due to lack of optional dependency before an actual
attempt to build.
I was more wanting to know which specific problem you were trying to
fix
On Sun, Sep 09, 2012 at 01:54:20AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sun, 2012-09-09 at 06:06 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
I see.
Who knows what they'll break next.
Do you use any particular obscure features that I could suggest?
Networking, keyboards, rotating media ...
Nick
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++6-4.7-pic - GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (shared library subset kit)
Closes: 684635 685430 685975 686802
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