On Dec 28, "Bernhard R. Link" wrote:
> Almost no upstream author cares about licensing at all. The mayority of
Great, no ethical issues to be concerned with then.
> Debian is no corporation that can just willy-nilly copy stuff around
> without caring for the law and hoping noone will find out or
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 08:38:09PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> On 12/28/2013 07:51 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > The "or later" means "or later" and just that. It doesn't mean
> > a downstream can say they received it under the later version.
> > And the upstream can't claim that either.
> The
On 29.12.2013 01:27, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
This is a common fallacy: Just because a piece of hardware is working
properly on Windows doesn't mean anything is adherent to the
specifications. The reason why your hardware is running on Windows
without any problems is that the manufactu
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 08:53:56PM +, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> > As one of the "GPL v2 only" proponents, I take affront. I choose to
> > license what little software I release as GPL v2 only because I do not
> > consider the GPL v3
Rene,
On 12/29/2013 04:06 AM, René Kuligowski wrote:
> OK, this is not fun when people just get pissed because they don't read
> –– or don't want to read –– what a person writes, and answer with
> thoughtless or arrogant statements. I didn't post this in debian-devel
> out of boredom; I wrote to
On 12/29/2013 03:55 AM, René Kuligowski wrote:
>> You can still file the bug report against a particular package. If it
>> turns out to be assigned to the wrong package, we can still change
>> that afterwards at any time.
> Right, I just wanted to spare us from the trouble by getting one or the
> o
On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 01:57 -0100, René Kuligowski wrote:
>
> On 28.12.2013 23:46, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 19:52 -0100, René Kuligowski wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Adrian,
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks for your quick answer,… but (sounds like a pouting little boy, I
> >> know):
> >> Sorr
On 2013-12-28 17:59:35 -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> On 12/28/2013 04:15 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:11:18PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> >> There are organization who will allow v2 but not v3 because of
> >> the tivoizaton and patent clauses. A developer may want his
On 12/28/2013 07:51 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>
> The "or later" means "or later" and just that. It doesn't mean
> a downstream can say they received it under the later version.
> And the upstream can't claim that either.
The "or later" means my clients' lawyers state unequivocally that they will n
There is a chance.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Kathleen Spence
wrote:
Hello,
Just wondering if there was any chance that pulseaudio could be
removed from trunk (any debain dist) and just go back to basic known
working good alsa?
Thank you!
Debian User
OK, this is not fun when people just get pissed because they don't read
–– or don't want to read –– what a person writes, and answer with
thoughtless or arrogant statements. I didn't post this in debian-devel
out of boredom; I wrote to you because it didn't seem to fit anywhere else.
I thank
Original Message
Subject:Re: Fwd: Re: several SIGSEGV bugs in debian 7/AMD64
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 01:57:50 -0100
From: René Kuligowski
To: Ben Hutchings
On 28.12.2013 23:46, Ben Hutchings wrote:
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 19:52 -0100, René Kuligowski wrote:
On 28.12.2013 19:27, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
You can still file the bug report against a particular package. If it
turns out to be assigned to the wrong package, we can still change
that afterwards at any time.
Right, I just wanted to spare us from the trouble by getting one or the
o
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 05:59:35PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> On 12/28/2013 04:15 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:11:18PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> >> On 12/28/2013 03:53 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
>
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 17:13 -0600, Kathleen Spence wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> Just wondering if there was any chance that pulseaudio could be
> removed from trunk (any debain dist) and just go back to basic known
> working good alsa?
Don't feed the troll!
Ben.
--
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Klipstein's 4th Law
On Sat, 2013-12-28 at 19:52 -0100, René Kuligowski wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
>
>
> Thanks for your quick answer,… but (sounds like a pouting little boy, I
> know):
> Sorry, but I cannot file a bug report against, say, nvidia-glx, because
> it is most likely not the cause.
Sure it is.
> The problem is
On 28/12/13 22:59, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> On 12/28/2013 04:15 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:11:18PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
>>> There are organization who will allow v2 but not v3 because of the
>>> tivoizaton and patent clauses. A developer may want
>>> his work to
On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 02:59:35 +0400, Stephen M. Webb
wrote:
On 12/28/2013 04:15 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:11:18PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
On 12/28/2013 03:53 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
As one of the "G
Hello,
Just wondering if there was any chance that pulseaudio could be removed
from trunk (any debain dist) and just go back to basic known working good
alsa?
Thank you!
Debian User
On 12/28/2013 04:15 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:11:18PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
>> On 12/28/2013 03:53 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
>>> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
As one of the "GPL v2 only" proponents, I take affront. I choose to
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 04:11:18PM -0500, Stephen M. Webb wrote:
> On 12/28/2013 03:53 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> >> As one of the "GPL v2 only" proponents, I take affront. I choose to
> >> license what little software I release as
On 12/28/2013 03:53 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
>> As one of the "GPL v2 only" proponents, I take affront. I choose to
>> license what little software I release as GPL v2 only because I do not
>> consider the GPL v3 to have what attract
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On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 09:45:09AM +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> As one of the "GPL v2 only" proponents, I take affront. I choose to
> license what little software I release as GPL v2 only because I do not
> consider the GPL v3 to have what attracted me to use the GPL v2 in the
> first place.
T
Hi Rene!
On 12/28/2013 09:52 PM, René Kuligowski wrote:
> Thanks for your quick answer,… but (sounds like a pouting little boy, I
> know):
> Sorry, but I cannot file a bug report against, say, nvidia-glx, because
> it is most likely not the cause. The problem is far more likely kernel
> 3.x- and/
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Hi Adrian,
Thanks for your quick answer,… but (sounds like a pouting little boy, I
know):
Sorry, but I cannot file a bug report against, say, nvidia-glx, because
it is most likely not the cause. The problem is far more likely kernel
3.x- and/or gcc-related, and I need somebody who knows more in
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On 12/28/2013 11:10 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> Excerpts from Philipp Kern's message of 2013-12-28 06:23:31 -0800:
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:36:44AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>> So we have forks. And forks suck. But that is how MySQL's little inbred
>>> family works. And that is why I am pretty a
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Excerpts from Philipp Kern's message of 2013-12-28 06:23:31 -0800:
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:36:44AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote:
> > So we have forks. And forks suck. But that is how MySQL's little inbred
> > family works. And that is why I am pretty adamant that upstreams be
> > involved or I wil
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM, wrote:
> I also filed http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733156
> as a wild guess.
>
> Anyway what needs to be done is
> for(all debian packages){
> if(a new version of this package was released && that version would
> make the above such message
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It's been ages since I used cvs, and therefore I don't really need
a tool to convert cvs commit messages to changelogs anymore. Upstream
has moved on as well, it seems [1].
The package description is:
This perl script produces a GNU-style ChangeLog for CVS-control
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Severity: normal
Empire is a round based console war/strategy game, written in C.
Description-en: the war game of the century
Empire is a console game simulation of a full-scale war between two
emperors, the computer and you. Naturally, there is only room for
one, so the object o
I also filed http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733156
as a wild guess.
Anyway what needs to be done is
for(all debian packages){
if(a new version of this package was released && that version would
make the above such message appear upon the user's screen upon
installation){
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 06:36:44AM -0800, Clint Byrum wrote:
> So we have forks. And forks suck. But that is how MySQL's little inbred
> family works. And that is why I am pretty adamant that upstreams be
> involved or I will not spend what little time I do have for Debian on
> keeping their forks
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 11:33 AM, wrote:
> # ... upgrade
> Setting up ... (...) ...
> update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling
> back to defaults
>
> Setting up ... (...) ...
> update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling
> b
Clint Byrum wrote:
> I am one of the few people maintaining MySQL,
And thanks for doing so :)
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On 2013-12-28 09:45:09 +0100, David Weinehall wrote:
> Relicensing libraries that have long been GPL v2 (or later) or LGPL v2.1
> (or later) to (L)GPL v3 (or later) is, if anything, very antisocial,
> since it locks out users of GPL v2 (only) software and forces the GPL v3
> interpretation onto GPL
# ... upgrade
Setting up ... (...) ...
update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling
back to defaults
Setting up ... (...) ...
update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling
back to defaults
So the user, being a responsible citizen,
* Thomas Goirand [131228 08:30]:
> don't think it does anymore, especially seeing that almost no upstream
> author cares about Debian's nit-picking on this particular issue. We're
> just beating ourselves for no valid reason.
Almost no upstream author cares about licensing at all. The mayority of
* Russ Allbery [131227 18:53]:
> "Bernhard R. Link" writes:
> > * Russ Allbery [131224 01:42]:
>
> >> On the contrary, it's Debian's insistence on following an idiosyncratic
> >> license interpretation that's creating the supposed unfairness. This
> >> is obviously not Red Hat's fault.
>
> > Co
Hello Rene!
On 12/28/2013 08:40 AM, René Kuligowski wrote:
> concerning: older AMD64 computers + 3.x kernel,
> X11 + native NVidia drivers + FVWM or WMII,
> and some other SIGSEGV'ing apps
This is too unspecific, unfortunately. You should file a bug report for
each machine
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 10:43:54PM +, Clint Adams wrote:
[snip]
> GPLv2-only folks should be made to see how their antisocial
> behavior is harming everyone. I think this is a delightful
> situation for them to be in.
>
> Plenty of other licenses have an "or later" baked in and nobody
> whine
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