Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Cameron Norman
El Wed, 26 de Mar 2014 a las 9:03 PM, gustavo panizzo escribió: On 03/26/2014 11:49 PM, Cameron Norman wrote: I wonder if dbus activation could be used to accomplish this. Of course, then one would not be able to put (in the case of Upstart) the socket bridge, dbus bridge, dbus, or anythin

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread gustavo panizzo
On 03/26/2014 11:49 PM, Cameron Norman wrote: > El Wed, 26 de Mar 2014 a las 7:07 PM, gustavo panizzo > escribió: >> On 03/26/2014 07:40 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> >> If you want thing to move on, stop posting useless messages, and >> start working on alternatives. For example, helping

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Cameron Norman
El Wed, 26 de Mar 2014 a las 7:07 PM, gustavo panizzo escribió: On 03/26/2014 07:40 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: If you want thing to move on, stop posting useless messages, and start working on alternatives. For example, helping adding more features to OpenRC would certainly help a way mor

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread gustavo panizzo
On 03/26/2014 07:40 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > If you want thing to move on, stop posting useless messages, and start > working on alternatives. For example, helping adding more features to > OpenRC would certainly help a way more than this post. going offtopic here, do you know if there is any

Re: Preparing openjpeg 2.0

2014-03-26 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Mathieu Malaterre , 2014-03-24, 12:38: I am preparing to upload openjpeg 2.0. This is a major API (yes API) change from previous openjpeg 1.x. None of these openjpeg versions seem to use versioned symbols. If you want to have both in the archive at the same, then both should use them. --

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Kevin Toppins: > But here is the vastly oversimplified technical argument... > To the point of being neither technical nor valid. (Which admittedly was never in doubt even before I started reading.) > I think you will confirm that neither you, nor I, nor the guy who came > up with the origin

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Kevin Toppins's message of 2014-03-26 13:00:22 -0700: > On 26 March 2014 13:42, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > [...] > > As far as the systemd vs. upstart discussion, I was leaning in upstart (more > > precisely, against systemd). As such, your email was very interesting to me. > > Unfortu

FW: Re: Bug#742729: ITP: gstreamer-sharp-1.0 -- new revamped GStreamer CLI bindings that target gstreamer-1.x

2014-03-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
- Forwarded message from Andrei POPESCU - Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2014 22:16:51 +0200 From: Andrei POPESCU To: "Andrés G. Aragoneses" , 742...@bugs.debian.org Cc: debian-de...@packages.debian.org Subject: Re: Bug#742729: ITP: gstreamer-sharp-1.0 -- new revamped GStreamer CLI bindings that tar

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 March 2014 13:42, Shachar Shemesh wrote: [...] > As far as the systemd vs. upstart discussion, I was leaning in upstart (more > precisely, against systemd). As such, your email was very interesting to me. > Unfortunately, it was unreadable. You said you'll start with background, but > instea

Bug#742742: ITP: tryton-modules-stock-package -- Stock Package Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-stock-package Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/ * Licen

Bug#742741: ITP: tryton-modules-shipment-grouping -- Sale Shipment Grouping Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-sale-shipment-grouping Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2

Bug#742739: ITP: tryton-modules-party-relationship -- Party Relationship Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-party-relationship Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/ *

Bug#742740: ITP: tryton-modules-sale-credit-limit -- Sale Credit Limit Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-sale-credit-limit Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/ * L

Bug#742738: ITP: tryton-modules-account-payment-sepa -- Account Payment SEPA Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-account-payment-sepa Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/

Bug#742737: ITP: tryton-modules-account-credit-limit -- Account Credit Limit Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-account-credit-limit Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/

Bug#742736: ITP: tryton-modules-account-payment -- Account Payment Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-account-payment Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/ * Lic

Bug#742735: ITP: tryton-modules-account-invoice-stock -- Account Invoice Stock Module for the Tryton Application Platform

2014-03-26 Thread Mathias Behrle
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Tryton Maintainers * Package name: tryton-modules-account-invoice-stock Version : 3.2.0 Upstream Author : Tryton project (www.tryton.org) * URL : http://downloads.tryton.org/3.2/

Re: trolls and Humans are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and you have proven it

2014-03-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 25/03/14 18:33, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 16:15, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >> I was very proud of my fellow colleagues for not feeding the troll a >> full 24 hours later. Thanks for breaking the record :( > > I had a hope that the no one will answer OP. :( > > -- To UN

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Shachar Shemesh
On 26/03/14 17:13, Kevin Toppins wrote: > I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you on my post being useless. With the hope of contributing constructive criticism, I'll answer that. As far as the systemd vs. upstart discussion, I was leaning in upstart (more precisely, against systemd).

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 March 2014 10:13, Cameron Norman wrote: [...] > That is pretty much impossible, according to the developers of the logind > API and its single implementation. Perhaps a subset of the logind API for > use by desktop environments / compositors would be more useful in this init > and OS portabi

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Kevin Toppins
On 26 March 2014 05:40, Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] > If you want thing to move on, stop posting useless messages, and start > working on alternatives. For example, helping adding more features to > OpenRC would certainly help a way more than this post. I am going to have to respectfully disagre

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Cameron Norman
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/25/2014 12:42 AM, Kevin Toppins wrote: > Writing an independent, init system agnostic, logind API compatible > daemon would be another good thing to do. > That is pretty much impossible, according to the developers of the logind API

Bug#742709: ITP: octomap -- An Efficient Probabilistic 3D Mapping Framework Based on Octrees

2014-03-26 Thread Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda" * Package name: octomap Version : 1.6.5 Upstream Author : Armin Hornung, Kai M. Wurm, Maren Bennewitz, Cyrill Stachniss and Wolfram Burgard * URL : http://octomap.github.io/ * License : GPL-2

Re: dist-upgrade strangeness: dependencies not deconfigured

2014-03-26 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Tue, 2014-03-25 at 22:38:45 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > What you're showing here is a snapshot at some point in the middle of an > upgrade, when texlive-common has been removed (because the package no longer > exists, and the new texlive-base conflicts with it) and texlive-base has not >

Re: Bug#741930: reportbug: add current init system information

2014-03-26 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Michael Biebl: > I do think it might be useful information, at least during the > transition period. We can always revisit this decision in jessie+X, if > by that time the vast majority is running systemd. > We'd still want that information, if/when the current init is *not* systemd. Likewis

Re: stop posting useless cruft and get to work (systemd and Linux are *fundamentally incompatible* -> and I can prove it)

2014-03-26 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/25/2014 12:42 AM, Kevin Toppins wrote: > Sorry for the intrusion into your world, but this *needed* to be said, > and needed to be said on *this* specific list. Not correct. We didn't need another iteration of such a post. > -> the *future* of linux actually *does* depend on what -> you <-

Re: jquery debate with upstream

2014-03-26 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2014-03-26 02:49, Paul Wise wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 6:16 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: To be honest I'd rather like to see a "ruling" which is codified in a policy than random guesswork we do on -devel from observing FTP masters' actions. This is not Mao. Figuring out what the source is a

Re: debian-archive-keyring installing ubuntu keys?

2014-03-26 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2014-03-26 9:14, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 26/03/14 10:03, Adam D. Barratt wrote: On 2014-03-26 8:39, Daniel Pocock wrote: " not changed gpg: key FBB75451: "Ubuntu CD Image Automatic Signing Key " not changed gpg: Total number processed: 2 gpg: unchanged: 2 This suggests that

Re: debian-archive-keyring installing ubuntu keys?

2014-03-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 26/03/14 10:03, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On 2014-03-26 8:39, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> I have a project that is building in the travis-ci.org environment >> (based on Ubuntu) > [...] >> Unpacking debian-archive-keyring (from >> .../debian-archive-keyring_2010.08.28_all.deb) ... >> Setting up debia

Re: debian-archive-keyring installing ubuntu keys?

2014-03-26 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On 2014-03-26 8:39, Daniel Pocock wrote: I have a project that is building in the travis-ci.org environment (based on Ubuntu) [...] Unpacking debian-archive-keyring (from .../debian-archive-keyring_2010.08.28_all.deb) ... Setting up debian-archive-keyring (2010.08.28) ... That package is olde

debian-archive-keyring installing ubuntu keys?

2014-03-26 Thread Daniel Pocock
I have a project that is building in the travis-ci.org environment (based on Ubuntu) I added the following to .travis.yml to try and make it use packages from sid: before_install: - sudo apt-get update -qq - sudo apt-get install -qq debian-archive-keyring - sudo add-apt-repository -y "de