Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi On Fri, 09 May 2014, Josh Triplett wrote: debconf prompt on every Debian user; we should not assume that because *we* care, *they're* required to care. In practice, people will test I strongly disagree with this opinion. From personal experience I know several people who are not developers

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2014-05-09, Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to become the default. I don't think I have an opinion of the exact state today other than 'works for me in most cases', but I do think we are quite late in the

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
#secure method=pgpmime mode=sign On Fri, May 09 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org writes: Russ Allbery wrote: I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash and how we

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Michael Biebl i.e. does /etc/default/rcS exist on a clean jessie install? That file is owned by initscripts, so no, that doesn't work. We could check if /sbin/init is a symlink to systemd (or if /proc/1/exe points to systemd) and if not warn. I think that will catch the normal cases.

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:30:22 +0200, Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org wrote: Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek: I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to become the default. What are you missing? For example, keyscript= in /etc/crypttab. I got systemd

Re: How to go back to sysvinit (was: Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-10 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 09 May 2014 13:09:24 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org wrote: On 05/09/2014 12:35, Svante Signell wrote: Well, I've not been asked if I wanted to switch to systemd based boot when upgrading. I think this is a bug in init system choice and should be reported. How to go back to

libpng and next release

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear release managers, dear libpng maintainers, all DD I would like to find a resolution of the currently very unfortunate state of libpng in Debian. We have * libpng 1.2 in stable, testing, unstable * libpng 1.6 in experimental, but not providing libpng-dev If we continue like this, the next

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Marc Haber wrote: boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to dump -x'es in shell scripts to see what's going on. +10^20 Norbert PREINING, Norbert

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
What are you missing? I am still missing the part of my logs that gets chopped off. #746351 (I know it's fixed in experimental, but I don't want to get important stuff from experimental). -- Salvo Tomaselli Io non mi sento obbligato a credere che lo stesso Dio che ci ha dotato di senso,

copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Jérémy Lal
Hi, Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0] can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license. Since it's something that not many people seems to be aware of, maybe it might be useful to have a lintian check for that. That command [1] shows positives on my /usr/share/

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Marc Haber: Will it be the norm that the binaries replacing well-used shell scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early boot will become undebuggable since one will not be able any more to

Bug#747597: ITP: lxqt-config -- LXQt system settings center

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-config Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747596: ITP: liblxqt-mount -- Library used to manage removable devices for LXDE-Qt

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: liblxqt-mount Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL.) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747598: ITP: lxqt-config-randr -- Qt config GUI for X11 RandR for LXQt system settings

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-config-randr Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang:

Bug#747599: ITP: lxqt-common -- Common files for LXQt

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-common Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747602: ITP: lxqt-notificationd -- The LXQt notification daemon

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-notificationd Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang:

Bug#747600: ITP: lxqt-about -- The standalone LXQt About dialog

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-about Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++.)

Bug#747601: ITP: lxqt-globalkeys -- Daemon used to register global keyboard shortcuts

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-globalkeys Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang:

Bug#747603: ITP: lxqt-openssh-askpass -- OpenSSH user/password GUI dialog for LXQt

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-openssh-askpass Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming

Bug#747604: ITP: lxqt-qtplugin -- LXDE-Qt platform integration plugin for Qt

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-qtplugin Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang:

Bug#747605: ITP: pcmanfm-qt -- File manager and desktop icon manager (Qt port of PCManFM and libfm)

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: pcmanfm-qt Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747607: ITP: lxqt-policykit -- The LXQt PolicyKit agent

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-policykit Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang:

Bug#747608: ITP: lxqt-session -- An alternative session manager ported from the original razor-session

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-session Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747610: ITP: lxqt-panel -- The LXQt desktop panel

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-panel Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747611: ITP: lxqt-powermanagement -- Power management module for LXQt

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-powermanagement Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming

Bug#747613: ITP: lxqt-runner -- Tool used to launch programs quickly by typing their names

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: lxqt-runner Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 20:39 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: Russ Allbery wrote: ... I think we need some sort of critical debconf prompt here for the jessie release, similar to how we handled the change of /bin/sh to dash and how we handled the switch to startpar. Probably in systemd-sysv,

Bug#747618: ITP: festvox-us-slt-hts -- US English voice for Festival. 32kHz sample rate, HTS

2014-05-10 Thread Sergio Oller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sergio Oller sergiol...@gmail.com * Package name: festvox-us-slt-hts Version : 2010.10.25 Upstream Author : Alan W Black a...@cs.cmu.edu * URL : http://festvox.org/voicedemos.html * License : MIT/X11-like Programming

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
severity 747535 serious thanks Why did you downgrade bug #747535 to wishlist? The discussion is ongoing, and no solution has found consensus yet. I agree, raising the severity. If one (Josh) thinks that is fine, that doesn't mean it is fine. Norbert

Bug#747620: ITP: liblxqt -- Core utility library for all LXDE-Qt components

2014-05-10 Thread 李健秋
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Lee (李健秋) ajq...@debian.org * Package name: liblxqt Version : 0.7.0 Upstream Author : LXQt team lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://lxqt.org * License : (GPL, LGPL) Programming Lang: (C++)

Bug#747621: ITP: libthread-sigmask-perl -- thread specific signal masks

2014-05-10 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libthread-sigmask-perl Version : 0.004 Upstream Author : Leon Timmermans le...@cpan.org * URL :

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2014, 20:30:22 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek: I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to become the default. What are you missing? Suitable explaination and reaction to bug reports like:

Bug#747623: ITP: libsignal-mask-perl -- module for easy handling of signal masks

2014-05-10 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann gre...@debian.org Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libsignal-mask-perl Version : 0.007 Upstream Author : Leon Timmermans faw...@gmail.com * URL :

Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: Hi, Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0] can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license. [...] This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright. Isn't an ICC descriptive, rather than creative? And the

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
Hi Martin, hi all, being told Go away just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with issues with something that is a default for all users who don´t change it. Indeed, and that is the feeling all around. Systemd developers often (by default?) tell people to go away - you don't have

Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Jérémy Lal
Le samedi 10 mai 2014 à 13:37 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: Hi, Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0] can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license. [...] This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of

Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Ben Hutchings (2014-05-10 14:37:35) On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0] can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without license. [...] This sounds like a ludicrous overreach of copyright. Isn't an ICC

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
[I kept your Cc, I don´t need to be Cc´d tough as I am subscribed to the list.) Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 21:21:30 schrieb Norbert Preining: Hi Martin, hi all, being told Go away just doesn´t match the responsibility for dealing with issues with something that is a default for all users

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2014, 20:30:22 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek: I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to become the default. What are you missing? Suitable explaination and

change is hard and feared upon (Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote: Will it be the norm that the binaries replacing well-used shell scripts on early boot only implement the features that Lennart deemed useful? That would be a major turn-off, adding to the fact that early boot will become undebuggable

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Martin Steigerwald wrote: [I kept your Cc, I don´t need to be Cc´d tough as I am subscribed to the list.) [So am I ;-)] I did not make a technical statement about systemd. I understand the reasons Neither did I. My statement was about the attitude of (especially, but

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 15:36:26 schrieben Sie: Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Freitag, 9. Mai 2014, 20:30:22 schrieb Michael Biebl: Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek: I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to become the default.

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Bas Wijnen
I think this is a good example of how not to respond to reports, as we recently discussed on this list. Even though most parts are excellent. :-) On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 03:36:26PM +0200, Laurent Bigonville wrote: The root cause of this bug is [...] This part is useful. So please get dirmngr

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread LeJacq, Jean Pierre
On Saturday 10 May 2014 09:57:25 Marc Haber wrote: On Fri, 09 May 2014 20:30:22 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 09.05.2014 19:56, schrieb Steve Langasek: I don't think systemd integration is in a state today that this is ready to become the default. What are you missing? For example,

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Sat, 10 May 2014 16:00:39 +0200, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de a écrit : [...] Thats exactly the kind of reaction I meant: Frankly, I just *don´t* care where it is fixed. If its in dirmngr, fine. Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt an

Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread John
After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. Accordingly, I'd like to keep systemd off my machine (sid) to the extent practical until

ignoring bugs with no maintainer (Re: Removal of emacs23 from unstable/testing)

2014-05-10 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Rob, On Mittwoch, 7. Mai 2014, Rob Browning wrote: If we can, I'd like to remove emacs23 from unstable/testing before the freeze. To make that possible, any relevant packages will need to migrate to emacs24, or just include support for emacs24. what's your plan for dealing with old bugs

Re: Bug#747612: RFP: manokwari -- a desktop shell for GNOME 3

2014-05-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Control: reassign -1 wnpp Control: retitle -1 RFP: manokwari -- a desktop shell for GNOME 3 On Sb, 10 mai 14, 18:05:32, Rahman Yusri Aftian wrote: Package: manokwari Version: 0.2.1.37 Severity: wishlist Dear Maintainer, Manokwari is a desktop shell for GNOME 3. It features combined Gtk+

Re: change is hard and feared upon (Re: systemd-fsck?)

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Holger Levsen: systemctl is not mentioned on https://wiki.debian.org/systemd - maybe it should? Actually, this is hardly Debian specific, so a pointer to the generic page for debugging startup/shutdown with systemd would probably be more useful than duplicating information that's

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 9 May 2014 23:50, Russ Allbery r...@debian.org wrote: Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org writes: On Fri, May 09, 2014 at 10:37:03PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: It and upstart (and any other providers of /sbin/init) should also grow critical debconf warnings if you install them and you were

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 18:00:02 schrieb Laurent Bigonville: Le Sat, 10 May 2014 16:00:39 +0200, Martin Steigerwald mar...@lichtvoll.de a écrit : [...] Thats exactly the kind of reaction I meant: Frankly, I just *don´t* care where it is fixed. If its in dirmngr, fine.

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Martin Steigerwald: Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel developers do. I beg to differ. At least in this case. su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something that creates

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 10. Mai 2014, 19:13:01 schrieb Matthias Urlichs: Hi, Martin Steigerwald: Yet: I do think its about high time systemd developers and packagers adopt an attitude of never break userspace like the kernel developers do. I beg to differ. At least in this case. su does a bunch of

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Norbert Preining So I *strongly* advise to inform *and* ask the users!! I would strongly advise you to stop spreading FUD as well as conserving the global supply of exclamation marks. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To

Bug#747649: ITP: ceph-dkms -- Ceph FS and RBD Linux kernel drivers (DKMS version)

2014-05-10 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,ceph-maintain...@lists.ceph.com Package name: ceph-dkms Version: 3.14+git20140429 Upstream Author: Sage Weil s...@newdream.net URL: https://github.com/ceph/ceph-client License: GPL-2,

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13: Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages, For end users? I don't think so. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Avoiding system d

2014-05-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote: Thanks for practical help. I'm not looking for more flames. A couple of quotes from your mail: I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. You're not looking

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Sat, 10 May 2014 19:13:01 +0200, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de a écrit : Hi, [...] Telling Go away, the bug is elsewhere is just not an approbiate reaction for developers of a low level system component. For the record: I do not disagree with this statement. I think there are

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 19:53 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13: Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages, For end users? I don't think so. If a package is not changed to fix the FTBFS, then it will be removed from testing and

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Jakub Wilk: * Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de, 2014-05-10, 19:13: Every compiler toolchain upgrade breaks a bunch of packages, For end users? I don't think so. The typical end user does not recompile some system-supplied package with a newer GCC; neither does the typical end user

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-10 Thread Paul Vojta
In article nfdvy-6f...@gated-at.bofh.it, Bas Wijnen wij...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, May 06, 2014 at 06:44:16PM -0700, Jose Luis Rivas wrote: I saw it and I fail to see what exactly they want to achieve with this change since AGPLv3 is for web apps. I license almost all my work as AGPL,

Bug#747668: ITP: secilc -- SELinux CIL compiler and helper commands

2014-05-10 Thread Victor Porton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Victor Porton por...@narod.ru I want to package this software along with some system scripts (to help installation of other packages) I am going to create: https://bitbucket.org/jwcarter/secilc Please take into account, it is my first package to be put

Re: copyrighted embedded ICC profiles in images

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 02:55:09PM +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: Le samedi 10 mai 2014 à 13:37 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : On Sat, 2014-05-10 at 11:10 +0200, Jérémy Lal wrote: Hi, Jonas Smedegaard brought to my attention that an image file [0] can embed a copyrighted ICC profile without

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 04:00:39PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: The root cause of this bug is in the initscript of dirmngr that us using su instead of start-stop-daemon. su is starting a PAM session which then call pam_systemd. This should not happen for daemons. Again here systemd

Re: Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi John, On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:05:25PM -0400, John wrote: After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. Accordingly, I'd like to keep

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Matthias Urlichs contributed: I also would not expect an end user to add su foo -c /do/whatever to /etc/rc.local. Your opinion may differ, that's OK. My opinion certainly does differ as I'm sure is already apparent ;-) especially that pid1 and single user should most

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 10 May 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: I would strongly advise you to stop spreading FUD as well as conserving ? Could you be so kind and explain your insinuation? Norbert PREINING, Norbert

Re: systemd-fsck?

2014-05-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
previously on this list Steve Langasek contributed: Using systemd breaks something that worked for probably a decade or longer before however long that su is in that init script. So on what account do you call calling su in an init script a bug? It may not be the most elegant solution

correct use of su

2014-05-10 Thread Brian May
On 11 May 2014 03:13, Matthias Urlichs matth...@urlichs.de wrote: su does a bunch of things that are perfectly appropriate for something that creates a new login. That's its job. I am still a bit confused, isn't this only when you use the -l su flag? Does su do stuff (e.g. pam session stuff)

Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I have two constituencies here; people who would like to see guile support in make, and to explore the new features. And people who expect a sensibly small set of packages essential to building other packages in Debin. Without guile suport, make just depends on libc, and

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes: Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not unsolvable, but messy, and I do not

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
Russ Allbery wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes: Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, and each target of the ./debin/rules might need cleanup/restart. Not unsolvable, but

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2014-05-11 at 03:28 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Russ Allbery wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@ieee.org writes: Building two binary packages from a single source seems hackish, since make and make-guile would require ./configure to be run again, and each target of the

Re: Guile language support in make

2014-05-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes: Thinking about the poor people trying to bootstrap things, I'm tempted to suggest doing this as two separate source packages. Make is *so* far down the bottom of the stack that adding a dependency on another language could cause significant problems.

Accepted ruby-fog-core 1.22.0-1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Cédric Boutillier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 07:17:51 +0200 Source: ruby-fog-core Binary: ruby-fog-core Architecture: source all Version: 1.22.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers

Accepted pypolicyd-spf 1.3-1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 02:08:19 -0400 Source: pypolicyd-spf Binary: postfix-policyd-spf-python Architecture: source all Version: 1.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Scott Kitterman sc...@kitterman.com Changed-By:

Accepted python-biopython 1.63+dfsg-5 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Andreas Tille
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 07:52:48 +0200 Source: python-biopython Binary: python-biopython python3-biopython python-biopython-doc python-biopython-sql python3-biopython-sql Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1.63+dfsg-5 Distribution:

Accepted gramps 4.0.3+dfsg-3 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Ross Gammon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 20:53:14 +0100 Source: gramps Binary: gramps Architecture: source all Version: 4.0.3+dfsg-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ross Gammon rossgam...@mail.dk Changed-By: Ross Gammon rossgam...@mail.dk

Accepted bijiben 3.12.0-2 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Vincent Cheng
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 00:03:33 -0700 Source: bijiben Binary: bijiben Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.12.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Vincent Cheng vch...@debian.org Changed-By: Vincent Cheng

Accepted rygel 0.22.1-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Andreas Henriksson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 08:55:30 +0200 Source: rygel Binary: rygel rygel-dbg rygel-2.2-dev librygel-core-2.2-2 librygel-server-2.2-2 librygel-renderer-2.2-2 librygel-renderer-gst-2.2-2 rygel-mediathek rygel-tracker rygel-gst-renderer

Accepted castle-game-engine 5.0.0-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Abou Al Montacir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2013 21:29:44 +0100 Source: castle-game-engine Binary: fp-units-castle-game-engine castle-game-engine-doc castle-game-engine-src Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 5.0.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium

Accepted curlftpfs 0.9.2-7 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Vincent Bernat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 09:46:23 +0200 Source: curlftpfs Binary: curlftpfs Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.9.2-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Vincent Bernat ber...@debian.org Changed-By: Vincent Bernat

Accepted seaview 1:4.5.1-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Charles Plessy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 17:29:33 +0900 Source: seaview Binary: seaview Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:4.5.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team

Accepted vtk 5.8.0-16 (source all amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Anton Gladky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 08:39:05 +0200 Source: vtk Binary: vtk-doc vtk-examples libvtk5.8 libvtk-java libvtk5-dev libvtk5.8-qt4 libvtk5-qt4-dev tcl-vtk python-vtk Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 5.8.0-16 Distribution: unstable

Accepted garmin-plugin 0.3.23-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Ralf Treinen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 09:13:45 +0200 Source: garmin-plugin Binary: garmin-plugin Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.3.23-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian running development group

Accepted ocaml-estring 20130822-3 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 00:40:25 +0200 Source: ocaml-estring Binary: libestring-ocaml libestring-ocaml-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 20130822-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian OCaml Maintainers

Accepted muffin 2.2.1-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Margarita Manterola
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 22:27:14 +0200 Source: muffin Binary: muffin libmuffin0 muffin-common libmuffin-dev gir1.2-meta-muffin-0.0 gir1.2-muffin-3.0 muffin-dbg Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 2.2.1-1 Distribution: experimental

Accepted zsnes 1.510+bz2-7 (source i386)

2014-05-10 Thread Etienne Millon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 10:15:30 +0200 Source: zsnes Binary: zsnes zsnes-dbg Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.510+bz2-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Games Team pkg-games-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted libisocodes 1.2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Tobias Quathamer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 07 May 2014 12:15:30 +0200 Source: libisocodes Binary: libisocodes-dev gir1.2-isocodes-1.2 libisocodes1 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tobias Quathamer

Accepted festival 1:2.1~release-7 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 02:44:38 +0200 Source: festival Binary: festival festival-dbg festival-dev festival-doc Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1:2.1~release-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

Accepted recoll 1.19.13-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Kartik Mistry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 08 May 2014 15:01:30 +0530 Source: recoll Binary: recoll python-recoll python3-recoll Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.19.13-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Kartik Mistry kar...@debian.org

Accepted libofx 1:0.9.9-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Sébastien Villemot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 06 May 2014 20:24:23 +0200 Source: libofx Binary: libofx6 libofx-dev libofx6-dbg libofx-doc ofx Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1:0.9.9-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Sébastien Villemot

Accepted pgextwlist 1.2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Christoph Berg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 15:25:54 +0100 Source: pgextwlist Binary: postgresql-9.3-pgextwlist Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Dimitri Fontaine dimi...@2ndquadrant.fr Changed-By:

Accepted php-pclzip 2.8.2-3 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread David Prévot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 14:54:49 -0400 Source: php-pclzip Binary: php-pclzip libphp-pclzip Architecture: source all Version: 2.8.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian PHP PEAR Maintainers

Accepted libgdal-grass 1.11.0-1~exp1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Bas Couwenberg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 04 May 2014 14:43:12 +0200 Source: libgdal-grass Binary: libgdal1-1.11.0-grass Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.11.0-1~exp1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian GIS Project

Accepted speech-tools 1:2.1~release-7 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 02:44:41 +0200 Source: speech-tools Binary: libestools2.1 libestools2.1-dev libestools2.1-dbg speech-tools speech-tools-dbg speech-tools-doc Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1:2.1~release-7 Distribution:

Accepted eclipse-ptp 7.0.3-1 (source all)

2014-05-10 Thread Jakub Adam
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 17:12:19 +0100 Source: eclipse-ptp Binary: eclipse-ptp-rdt Architecture: source all Version: 7.0.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Java Maintainers

Accepted x2goclient 4.0.2.0-1 (source amd64 all)

2014-05-10 Thread Mike Gabriel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 09 May 2014 18:57:26 +0200 Source: x2goclient Binary: x2goclient x2goplugin x2goplugin-provider x2goclient-dbg x2goplugin-dbg Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 4.0.2.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted clzip 1.6~pre2-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:49:21 +0200 Source: clzip Binary: clzip clzip-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.6~pre2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Baumann m...@daniel-baumann.ch Changed-By: Daniel Baumann

Accepted lzlib 1.6~rc1-1 (source amd64)

2014-05-10 Thread Daniel Baumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2014 11:52:09 +0200 Source: lzlib Binary: liblz1 liblz-dev liblz-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.6~rc1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Daniel Baumann m...@daniel-baumann.ch Changed-By: Daniel

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