On 06/26/2014 07:41 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote:
> The initial conclusion came from debian-legal, and I think it's
> futile to discuss that with ftp-masters when I already done that.
> And as you can see in the initial conversation in the bug report
> I was against the removal, but in the end they have c
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On 07/07/2014 03:39 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 07/01/2014 05:22 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
>
>> Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it
>> invalid for anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use
>> without making a false
How are you developing debian? I need to develop a new linux distro
based on debian squeeze, how can i ? Thanks. I'm 14 years old spanish
and my english is not perfect.
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 11:23:50 +0200
Dan Rulos wrote:
> How are you developing debian?
Adding and fixing packages - see the docs:
https://www.debian.org/devel/
> I need to develop a new linux distro
> based on debian squeeze, how can i ?
First question is why? What do you want from a new distro
Hi,
I have sent a reply off-list because I do not think the question is really
related to Debian development by itself.
As Teckids is dedicated to teaching Free Software (development) to children
and adolescents, I saw fit here.
Just for your information that someone has taken care of the inqu
Hi,
On Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2014, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Agreed, we should do the switch sooner rather then later.
> Let me follow up on the actual switch in a separate thread.
this has not happened yet, shall I file bugs against the general pseudo
package so we have some means to track this?
>
Hi,
we would like to propose an MBF with severity wishlist to drop unused build
dependencies in a number of source packages indicated by the attached two text
files and the dd-list output.
TLDR; We searched a selection of source packages relevant to bootstrapping for
build dependencies which are
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> MBF template email:
>
> --%<---
> Subject: Please consider removing the build dependencies on $foo, $bar and
> $baz
> Severity: wishlist
> Usertag: unusedbd
> User: bootst...@lis
Le lundi 07 juillet 2014 à 09:07 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a
écrit :
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> > MBF template email:
> >
> > --%<---
> > Subject: Please consider removing the build dependencies
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote:
>
> Can you spot obvious mistakes in the results or in the procedure used to
> generate them?
>
There seem to be a bunch of false positives for virtual/metapackages:
==> python-numpy_1.8.1-1.arch-all.unusedbd <==
gfortran=4:4.8.2-4
python-
Hi josch,
thank you very much for this effort, just two remarks:
1. +1 to what hmh said
2. You have missed at least one virtual package: libdb-dev is used to
depend on latest libdbX.Y-dev, so if you can remove that before MBF...
Ondrej
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014, at 13:51, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> H
Hi,
sorry I attached two wrong files containing the many false positives already
noticed by some of the replies. Here the actual results.
Sorry.
cheers, josch
==> apache2_2.4.9-1.arch-all.unusedbd.real <==
libcap-dev:amd64=1:2.22-1.2
==> apparmor_2.8.0-5.arch-all.unusedbd.real <==
dejagnu=1.5-3
Hi,
Quoting Julian Taylor (2014-07-07 14:14:20)
> There seem to be a bunch of false positives for virtual/metapackages:
>
> ==> python-numpy_1.8.1-1.arch-all.unusedbd <==
> gfortran=4:4.8.2-4
> python-all-dbg=2.7.6-2
> python-all-dev=2.7.6-2
> python3-all-dbg=3.4.1~rc1-1
> python3-all-dev=3.4.1~r
Hi,
Quoting Henrique de Moraes Holschuh (2014-07-07 14:07:26)
> Please don't assume that the unused build dependency is always where the
> defect is. Rather, the MBF text should account for the possibility that the
> unused build-dependency should have been used in the first place, but
> somethin
and the updated dd-list
Sorry for not having attached the right files in my initial email :(
cheres, josch
"Adam C. Powell, IV"
mpi-defaults (U)
Adam Conrad
eglibc (U)
freetds (U)
Alan Woodland
blcr
Alessandro Ghedini
curl
valgrind
Alessio Treglia
gpac (U)
Alexander
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Julian Taylor (2014-07-07 14:14:20)
>
>> If so that might explain why your pass2 did not remove these, but so far I
>> know we have no way to declare this state in our control, we only have
>> Build-Depends and Build-Depend
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Fladischer
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Hi,
Quoting Jérémy Lal (2014-07-07 14:12:19)
> Consider also the case when arch:all package require a build dependency on a
> package that only builds on some archs, to prevent the arch:all package being
> available on archs where its dependencies are not. nodejs and node-*
> packages are such an
Le lundi 07 juillet 2014 à 15:32 +0200, Johannes Schauer a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Quoting Jérémy Lal (2014-07-07 14:12:19)
> > Consider also the case when arch:all package require a build dependency on a
> > package that only builds on some archs, to prevent the arch:all package
> > being
> > availabl
Unless its renamed AFAICT.
T
On Jul 7, 2014 4:19 AM, "The Wanderer" wrote:
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> On 07/07/2014 03:39 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
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> > On 07/01/2014 05:22 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
> >
> >> Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes i
Package: general
Severity: normal
Tags: d-i
Dear Maintainer,
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* What led up to the situation?
It seems that buf occured after last system upgrade (apt-get upgrade)
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APT prefers s
On 07/07/2014 04:19 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 07/07/2014 03:39 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>
>> On 07/01/2014 05:22 AM, Clint Byrum wrote:
>
>>> Unless I'm mistaken, the wording in the PHP license makes it
>>> invalid for anybody that isn't actually the PHP project to use
>>> without making a fa
Your message dated Mon, 7 Jul 2014 17:16:18 +0200
with message-id <201407071716.19681.hol...@layer-acht.org>
and subject line Re: Bug#754104: general: Repetitive message "hub 1-0:1.0:
unable to enumerate USB device on port 3"
has caused the Debian Bug report #754104,
regarding general: Repetitive
Hi,
I don't think that is hardware fault. I've second (boot) OS: Kali Linux
(based on Debian) and there are not some kind of messages about "enumerate
USB device".
It seems to me that problem can exists with kernel or modules (maybe
configuration of ones). You can tell me where I can explore mor
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 4:51 AM, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> ==> openldap_2.4.39-1.arch-all.unusedbd <==
> debconf-utils=1.5.53
I think that's valid. According to debian/changelog, that B-D was
added long ago for debconf-mergetemplate, but if I'm reading correctly
it seems to be unused since switchi
On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 06:35:47PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Given that dpkg-dev has recognized the Testsuite field for some time,
> I don't really see a reason for dpkg-source not to automatically add
> it to the generated .dsc with an “autopkgtest” value if there is a
> debian/tests/
Hi Johannes,
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 02:37:02PM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Steve Langasek
>freetds
>openldap (U)
>pam
>unixodbc
There seem to still be some false positives here. pam is on the list
because of a build-dependency on libdb-dev, freetds and unixodbc are there
b
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Dan Rulos wrote:
> How are you developing debian? I need to develop a new linux distro
> based on debian squeeze, how can i ? Thanks. I'm 14 years old spanish
> and my english is not perfect.
That's great that you are interested and learning at a young age!
If you
Le vendredi 04 juillet 2014 à 15:09 +0200, Stephan Seitz a écrit :
> But if they don’t want the systemd features why should they write
> software to replace systemd?
If they don’t need any of the systemd features, I guess they don’t need
any of its reverse dependencies either.
So why do they co
Hi Steffen and all,
today while talking with a backbox project administrator I discovered that
popular tools such as openvas directly calls the amap binary.
I never talked with them, but I don't think it is feasible to ask to every
security tool provider to patch their code for the only debian
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Carrillo
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Hi,
Quoting Steve Langasek (2014-07-07 18:36:50)
> There seem to still be some false positives here. pam is on the list because
> of a build-dependency on libdb-dev, freetds and unixodbc are there because of
> a build-dependency on libreadline-dev. Both of these are metapackages that
> pull in v
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 11:16:37PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> Unless I'm mistaking, there's no sign that the PHP license prevents
> derivative work (even under a different license for your patch, if you
> feel like it).
It's my reading that this is the case if you rename your project to not
co
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 08:05:06PM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Quoting Steve Langasek (2014-07-07 18:36:50)
> > There seem to still be some false positives here. pam is on the list
> > because
> > of a build-dependency on libdb-dev, freetds and unixodbc are there because
> > of
> > a build-
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Empty packages are not "detected". The first phase will find empty
> packages because they do not contain any files and thus they are
> detected as build dependencies of which no files were used. Since
> empty packages are mostly meta packages and we d
Hi,
Quoting Don Armstrong (2014-07-07 20:33:37)
> On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> > Empty packages are not "detected". The first phase will find empty
> > packages because they do not contain any files and thus they are
> > detected as build dependencies of which no files were used.
Hi,
Quoting Steve Langasek (2014-07-07 20:22:42)
> Ah. No, it only means that the package build does not *fail* if the
> build-dependency is removed. That is not the same thing as saying that the
> build-dependency is not used.
you are correct. I expanded more on this in my other reply to Don A
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:22:42 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> For the case of pam, I would be interested in seeing the full build log to
> understand how in the world this built successfully without libdb. That's
> definitely a packaging error on my part, because without libdb,
> pam_userdb.so
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ben Carrillo
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On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:46:47PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:22:42 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > For the case of pam, I would be interested in seeing the full build log
> > to understand how in the world this built successfully without libdb.
> > That's definite
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:14:44PM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Quoting Steve Langasek (2014-07-07 20:22:42)
> > Ah. No, it only means that the package build does not *fail* if the
> > build-dependency is removed. That is not the same thing as saying that the
> > build-dependency is not used.
+++ Steve Langasek [2014-07-07 15:07 -0700]:
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:14:44PM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> > I agree that it should not be a bug if a package does not fail if a certain
> > build dependency is not installed.
>
> > Nevertheless, those "false positives" that were generated t
Hi Johannes,
On Montag, 7. Juli 2014, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> About "systematically staying on top of those issues" I do not know how to
> proceed. I guess for that we would first need to know how many source
> packages depend on meta packages which are not completely empty (besides
> /usr/share
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> If they don’t need any of the systemd features, I guess they don’t need
> any of its reverse dependencies either.
Rubbish. I want network-manager, but I don't want systemd.
NM was working long time without systemd.
Don't spread wrong information.
No
Hi!
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 13:19:41 -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 06, 2014 at 06:35:47PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > Reading the spec [S], it seems to me that the file can be empty, as it
> > states “This is a file containing zero or more RFC822-style stanzas”,
> > so the code ca
Hi,
Quoting Steve Langasek (2014-07-08 00:07:29)
> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 09:14:44PM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> > Nevertheless, those "false positives" that were generated this way are
> > still useful to be later marked with once build profiles
> > are allowed in the archive because they
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:48 AM, costamagnagianfra...@yahoo.it
wrote:
>
> Hi Steffen and all,
>
> today while talking with a backbox project administrator I discovered that
> popular tools such as openvas directly calls the amap binary.
>
> I never talked with them, but I don't think it is feasibl
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