Re: Removing < 2048 bit keys from the Debian keyrings

2014-09-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Sep 02 2014, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote: > > >> I don't know how the *-cert-level options in gpg/gpg2 match up with >> that section RFC480. Actually reading the sections in the man pages it >> reads very differently. > > I stand correc

Bug#760356: ITP: python-colorlog -- formatter to use with python's logging module

2014-09-03 Thread Philipp Huebner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Philipp Huebner * Package name: python-colorlog Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : Sam Clements * URL : https://github.com/borntyping/python-colorlog * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : formatte

Re: calling maintainer scripts with a clean environment?

2014-09-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On 02/09/14 20:09, Evgeni Golov wrote: > after reading #759590, I think it is time to consider calling maintainer > scripts in a (slightly) cleaned environment. Another possibility would be to guarantee that init scripts will be called in a cleaned environment. This seems like it will break fewer

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Simon McVittie
On 02/09/14 21:17, Changwoo Ryu wrote: > For fonts-nanum, the default is ~300 KiB 3.5% larger than -9e. And -9e > is not better than -8e. I don't think anyone is arguing that higher compression settings don't produce better compression ratios. However: Preset DictSize Com

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Changwoo Ryu wrote: > I think 65MIB for decompressing is OK with current hardwares as long > as it saves good amount of space and bandwidth. Not on avr32, and it hurts sh4, m68k and others as well. bye, //mirabilos -- >> Why don't you use JavaScript? I also don't like enabl

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2014-09-02 at 16:03 +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Svante Signell dixit: > > > It would be nice to have the same init system:sysv-core, as well as the > > same default desktop:mate-desktop-environment (including accessibility > > enhancements), for all arches: Linux, kFreeBSD and Hurd :-)

Bug#760364: ITP: python-elasticsearch -- Python client for Elasticsearch

2014-09-03 Thread Michael Fladischer
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Fladischer -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: python-elasticsearch Version : 1.2.0 Upstream Author : Honza Král * URL : https://github.com/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-py * License :

Re: Bug#759849: multipath-tools: FTBFS: uxsock.c:20:31: fatal error: systemd/sd-daemon.h: No such file or directory

2014-09-03 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On Tuesday 02 September 2014 01:33 PM, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: Could you elaborate a bit more, why those are needed? What is upstream doing about this? The block storage has many components that work closely with one another. Take an example, root fs on LVM on Multipath on iSCSI. The flow fo

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Rens Houben
In other news for Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Svante Signell has been seen typing: > Some food for thought about systemd: ... I thought we'd all agreed to stop bringing up tired arguments that nobody but the "systemd MUST DIE" crowd really wants to hear anymore. > You might have seen

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Changwoo Ryu
2014-09-03 17:04 GMT+09:00 Simon McVittie : > On 02/09/14 21:17, Changwoo Ryu wrote: >> For fonts-nanum, the default is ~300 KiB 3.5% larger than -9e. And -9e >> is not better than -8e. > > I don't think anyone is arguing that higher compression settings don't > produce better compression ratios. H

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ
Hi! I'm wondering here... Lets suppose I NEED to use sysvinit, with Debian 8. If so, can I just run: `apt-get install sysvinit-core` to get rid of systemd as my INIT? If yes, will this be support until... Let's say, Debian kFreeBSD still remains around...? Also, why not have a system like "

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Changwoo Ryu wrote: > I can't imagine any 31 MiB machine which needs to render megabytes of It’s *additional* memory. On top of kernel, libc, apt, dpkg, and whatever the user is running in parallel. bye, //mirabilos -- Sometimes they [people] care too much: pretty printers [

Re: Bug#759849: multipath-tools: FTBFS: uxsock.c:20:31: fatal error: systemd/sd-daemon.h: No such file or directory

2014-09-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 03 Sep 2014, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > >My inclination is to ship both, the systemd service files and the > >init scripts, in their current form along with whatever > >limitations each may have, and let the user choose. > > I did not get any comment on this. How are others doing similar >

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Simon McVittie
I'm sure we've been over this many times already. On 03/09/14 13:24, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > If so, can I just run: `apt-get install sysvinit-core` to get rid of > systemd as my INIT? Yes. > If yes, will this be support until... Let's say, Debian kFreeBSD still > remains around...? That's up

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Svante, On Mittwoch, 3. September 2014, Svante Signell wrote: > Some food for thought about systemd: > You might have seen this http://ewontfix.com/14 > but have you seen this http://ewontfix.com/15 > or this http://boycottsystemd.org/ > > Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is beco

Re: calling maintainer scripts with a clean environment?

2014-09-03 Thread Evgeni Golov
Hi, On 09/02/2014 11:06 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Evgeni Golov wrote: >> after reading #759590, I think it is time to consider calling maintainer >> scripts in a (slightly) cleaned environment. > > Since I submitted Bug#759590 (however not the apt interaction aspect > of it) let me say that I cons

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 03, Svante Signell wrote: > Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming more and more > important. Otherwise (Debian) users might do as recommended in the third > link: Boycott distros that use systemd. And I strongly encourage them to do this: we aim to be universal but we

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Svante Signell
On Wed, 2014-09-03 at 10:45 -0400, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi Svante, > > On Mittwoch, 3. September 2014, Svante Signell wrote: > > Some food for thought about systemd: > > You might have seen this http://ewontfix.com/14 > > but have you seen this http://ewontfix.com/15 > > or this http://boycottsy

Re: 2 months and no upload for pkg

2014-09-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Daniel Pocock writes ("Re: 2 months and no upload for pkg"): > It may not simply be the person > > Somebody uploading packages where they are also the upstream may know > the copyright situation inside out and just cut and paste > debian/copyright from one package to the next and it is always corr

Re: Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi Changwoo Ryu, > I think yes. The cost is 24 MiB extra memory on installation, and > benefits are bandwidth and mirror size saving of big packages. I beg to differ. Those few kiB of bandwidth (yes, I mean it like that) saved when downloading a package are worthless if the decompresion routine f

Re: Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures

2014-09-03 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi Daniel, > 177> color = size_t(*src) % COLOR_SET_SIZE; sorry if this is trivial, but have you already checked that (src != NULL)? - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Bug#759849: multipath-tools: FTBFS: uxsock.c:20:31: fatal error: systemd/sd-daemon.h: No such file or directory

2014-09-03 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
On Wednesday 03 September 2014 06:51 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 03 Sep 2014, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > >My inclination is to ship both, the systemd service files and the > >init scripts, in their current form along with whatever > >limitations each may have, and let the user

Re: Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Changwoo Ryu
2014-09-04 1:18 GMT+09:00 Fabian Greffrath : > Hi Changwoo Ryu, > >> I think yes. The cost is 24 MiB extra memory on installation, and >> benefits are bandwidth and mirror size saving of big packages. > > I beg to differ. Those few kiB of bandwidth (yes, I mean it like that) > saved when downloadin

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Christian Kastner
On 2014-09-03 13:10, Changwoo Ryu wrote: > 2014-09-03 17:04 GMT+09:00 Simon McVittie : >> On 02/09/14 21:17, Changwoo Ryu wrote: >>> For fonts-nanum, the default is ~300 KiB 3.5% larger than -9e. And -9e >>> is not better than -8e. >> >> I don't think anyone is arguing that higher compression setti

Bug#760411: ITP: moonshot-ui -- Project Moonshot Identity Manager

2014-09-03 Thread Sam Hartman
package: wnpp severity: wishlist owner: hartm...@debian.org URL: http://www.project-moonshot.org/ source: git://git.project-moonshot.org/moonshot-ui.git license: BSD-3-Clause Description: This package manages the Moonshot identity store, permitting users to add and remove identities as well as to

Re: Possible abuse of dpkg-deb -z9 for xz compressed binary packages

2014-09-03 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 10:59:44AM +0200, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Not on avr32, and it hurts sh4, m68k and others as well. I suppose we should always be sympathetic towards such architectures, but at the end of the day we should primarily concern ourselves with release architectures. -- To UNS

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 05:11:43PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 03, Svante Signell wrote: > > Having a systemd-free option for Debian Jessie is becoming more and more > > important. Otherwise (Debian) users might do as recommended in the third > > link: Boycott distros that use systemd. >

Re: Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures

2014-09-03 Thread Daniel Stender
Original Message Subject: Re: Request for help: #757168 gamera: FTBFS on several architectures Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2014 19:22:00 +0200 From: Daniel Stender To: Fabian Greffrath With pleasure! I've test patched this and rebuilded on i386 but remains failing so far. That's a p

Applying to Become a Maintainer

2014-09-03 Thread FERNANDO CROWLEY
Hello ,want to help i am novice Linux love to learn more on the OS debianplease direct me

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Sep 03, Steve Langasek wrote: > > https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc+sysvinit-core+systemd-shim&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fmt=%25Y-%25m&beenhere=1 > > Please stop using graphs showing

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Cameron Norman
El mié, 3 de sep 2014 a las 4:07 , Marco d'Itri escribió: On Sep 03, Steve Langasek wrote: > https://qa.debian.org/popcon-graph.php?packages=systemd-sysv+upstart+openrc+sysvinit-core+systemd-shim&show_installed=on&want_legend=on&want_ticks=on&from_date=2014-01-01&to_date=&hlght_date=&date_fm

Re: Jessie without systemd as PID 1?

2014-09-03 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 01:07:20 +0200, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: >On Sep 03, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Please stop using graphs showing how various teams have forced systemd onto >> users' systems as if it is somehow a democratic endorsement of the outcome. >I am not sure about how the concep

Cinnamon environment now available in testing

2014-09-03 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi all! After quite a few months of polishing packages, fixing issues, and making sure that everything builds where it's supposed to build, cinnamon is now fully available in testing. If you already have a desktop environment, you can install the packages needed by cinnamon by doing: apt-get inst