Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 22:32 +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > Hello again. > > On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 07:27:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 19:40 +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > > > Hello. > > > > > > Since this isn't the first time the vlan package with its deprec

Re: MBF Announcement: Transition libpng12 -> libpng16

2016-01-06 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, (adding debian-boot@, debian-release@ to Cc) Tobias Frost (2016-01-04): > Dear debian-devel, > > we are currently planning to start the transition of libpng. > The transition bug can be found here: > https://bugs.debian.org/650601. > > Out of the 463 rebuilt packages 117 FTBFS with the new

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 06, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > (PS. Now if we could only replace net-tools with a similar wrapper > script and finally deprecate the ioctl based tools there as well. ;P) We should hunt down and fix the few packages still depending on net-tools (hello bind9!). -- ciao, Marco signature

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello again. On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 07:27:00PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 19:40 +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > > Hello. > > > > Since this isn't the first time the vlan package with its deprecated > > vconfig command causes discussions I've gone ahead and uploaded >

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 19:40 +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote: > Hello. > > Since this isn't the first time the vlan package with its deprecated > vconfig command causes discussions I've gone ahead and uploaded > a new version of the package to experimental. See vlan 2.0 also > available from https:

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello. Since this isn't the first time the vlan package with its deprecated vconfig command causes discussions I've gone ahead and uploaded a new version of the package to experimental. See vlan 2.0 also available from https://people.debian.org/~ah/vlan-2.0/ for the impatient who doesn't want to w

Re: overlayfs (was: Re: support for merged /usr in Debian)

2016-01-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 01:35:13PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jan 06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > Do you mean overlayfs? If so can you or anyone vouch for its quality? > > I had been trying it as a docker storage back end and generally found > > that it was not ready yet. > Can you be more

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Nikolaus Rath
On Jan 06 2016, Ian Jackson wrote: > Nikolaus Rath writes ("Re: support for merged /usr in Debian"): >> On Jan 05 2016, Ian Jackson wrote: >> > People who have been using a configuration for many years naturally >> > become upset when they are told that it has been `unsupported' for all >> > of t

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 14:28 +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 04:07:40AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 12:46 +0900, Seyeong Kim wrote: > > > I checked vlan source http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint > > > /vlan.git/ > > > debian/network/if-pre-up.

Re: MBF Announcement: Transition libpng12 -> libpng16

2016-01-06 Thread Andreas Metzler
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Tobias Frost wrote: [...] > (IMHO I'd love to have a real libpng-dev package which depends on the > real thing; this would enable to version B-Ds on libpng-dev..) The other option would be versioned provides. cu Andreas -- `What a good friend you are to him,

Re: Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 11:55:08PM +0100, Eric Valette wrote: > Red hat is mainly for servers nowadays with paying support. As with many Red Hat features, it was first trialled and proven in Fedora, which is very much used on Desktops: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsrMove

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Eric Valette
On 01/06/2016 10:40 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: On 05/01/16 15:55, Ian Jackson wrote: Abolishing the distinction between /usr and / "Merged /usr" is not about removing the distinction between /usr and /, it's about removing the distinction between subdirectories of /usr and the corresponding sub

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-06 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 04:07:40AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: On Wed, 2016-01-06 at 12:46 +0900, Seyeong Kim wrote: I checked vlan source http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/vlan.git/ debian/network/if-pre-up.d/vlan, if-post-up.d/vlan … and not support en* or br* which are quite common

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Craig Small writes: > On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 03:55:51PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: >> What is causing all the heat is the suggestion that support might be >> withdrawn for currently working configurations which _do_ have a /usr >> vs / distinction, or which do mount /usr using / rather than >> ini

overlayfs (was: Re: support for merged /usr in Debian)

2016-01-06 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > Do you mean overlayfs? If so can you or anyone vouch for its quality? > I had been trying it as a docker storage back end and generally found > that it was not ready yet. Can you be more specific? I only use it to test new packages and it works for me. e.g. w

Improving recovery (Re: support for merged /usr in Debian)

2016-01-06 Thread Ole Laursen
Simon McVittie debian.org> writes: > I personally think those factors undermine the "/ as recovery" use-case > so far that the advantages of a merged /usr far outweigh it. User side note: If people would like to help the recovery use case, grml-rescueboot is already packaged which adds grub integ

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-06 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Philippe Cerfon writes: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Niels Thykier wrote: >> Philippe Cerfon: >> Your second item has been brought up before with different >> focus/rationale/purpose. At least I remember there being an interest in >> splitting "non-free" into "non-free/firmware" vs. various

Bug#809705: general: let people use non-free software but opt-out of non-open software

2016-01-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-01-04 23:14:11 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 07:45:37AM +, Niels Thykier wrote: > > Your second item has been brought up before with different > > focus/rationale/purpose. At least I remember there being an interest > > in splitting "non-free" into "non-fre

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 06:39:36AM -0200, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote: > No ugly symlinks on root file system, no Bash at /usr/bin/bash! Aesthetically, I find symlinks for /bin etc., in combination with all binaries in /usr/bin, to be prettier than the current situation. (I'd find all binaries in /bin t

Bug#810089: ITP: python-pika-pool -- Pika connection pooling

2016-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-pika-pool Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Author : egon * URL : https://github.com/bninja/pika-pool * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Pika connection pooling

Bug#810086: ITP: python-frozendict -- immutable dictionary

2016-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-frozendict Version : 0.5 Upstream Author : Santiago Lezica * URL : https://github.com/slezica/python-frozendict * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : immut

Re: Bug#807019: tracking bin-num - broken unison due to binnmu upload

2016-01-06 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-01-03 16:54:40 +1100, Brian May wrote: > The package called "unison2.40.102" version 2.40.102-3+b1 in testing and > unstable is broken. This broken package is not in stable. If it can't > get fixed, it probably should get removed. Yes, I think that it should be removed ASAP. Thus, users of

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Jan 06, 2016 at 02:56:24AM +0100, Christian Seiler wrote: > I've backported the two upstream patches that fix this (which amount to > the same change that your patch does) and have added them with the > proper metadata attached to them to the git packaging of the policykit > package. Thank

Bug#810082: ITP: python-weakrefmethod -- WeakMethod class for storing bound methods using weak references

2016-01-06 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand * Package name: python-weakrefmethod Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Tommy Wang * URL : http://github.com/twang817/weakrefmethod * License : PSF Programming Lang: Python Description : WeakMethod cl

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On 05/01/16 09:49, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:14 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> And yet, it works, and it means that we don't have to try to harass a >> thousand package maintainers into doing essentially untestable busy-work >> to try to move things around between /usr, /bin, and /

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 06:20:42PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge > > Now that we have union mounts in Linux Do you mean overlayfs? If so can you or anyone vouch for its quality? I had been trying it as a dock

Re: MBF Announcement: Transition libpng12 -> libpng16

2016-01-06 Thread Tobias Frost
Am Mittwoch, den 06.01.2016, 01:27 +0100 schrieb Samuel Thibault: > Rene Engelhard, on Tue 05 Jan 2016 22:15:31 +0100, wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 09:58:03PM +0100, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 05, 2016 at 09:50:58PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > > > Rene Engelhard, on Tue 05

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-06 Thread Simon McVittie
On 05/01/16 15:55, Ian Jackson wrote: > Abolishing the distinction between /usr and / This seems to be a somewhat frequent point of confusion so, at the risk of beating a dead horse: "Merged /usr" is not about removing the distinction between /usr and /, it's about removing the distinction betwee