Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 07 Jan 2016 14:48:56 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >Marc Haber writes: >> Unfortunately, it's emotions that take vendor decisions. Your attitude >> is driving big users towards the paid-for Enterprise Linuxes, be it >> logical or not, be it good engineering or not. > >...the ones that have a

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 22:46 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > Marc Haber writes: > > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:37:03 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > On Jan 05, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > People who have been using a configuration for many years naturally > > > > become upset when they are told

Bug#810304: ITP: stratagus -- Stratagus is a free cross-platform real-time strategy gaming engine.

2016-01-07 Thread Alexandre Detiste
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alexandre Detiste * Package name: stratagus Version : 2.4.0 Upstream Author : Stratagus Team * URL : https://github.com/Wargus/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ & Lua Description : Stratagus is a free cross-p

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jan 08, Paul Wise wrote: > The idea was for those who don't want an initramfs or can't use an > initramfs (someone mentioned some Debian platforms can't) but still All platforms can use an initramfs. It has been said that some have[citation needed] crappy boot loaders that do not support load

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 AM, Simon McVittie wrote: > I really don't think that's a good approach, particularly as a default. > We already have tools to make a minimal bootable environment that can > mount /usr and do some limited recovery, and the result is called an > initramfs. If you want a

Re: Hardware detection

2016-01-07 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 08/01/16 11:15, Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: > Hi > > On 2016-01-07, Stephan Foley wrote: >> Hello, I am working on a Fluxbox Debian Pure Blend: >> >> https://wiki.debian.org/FluxBox/Blend >> >> Currently, I am going to use discover, mdetect and read-edid for >> hardware discovery but found i

Work-needing packages report for Jan 8, 2016

2016-01-07 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 702 (new: 7) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 170 (new: 1) Total number of packages request

Bug#810290: ITP: mediawiki -- website engine for collaborative work

2016-01-07 Thread Kunal Mehta
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kunal Mehta * Package name: mediawiki Version : 1.25.5 Upstream Author : MediaWiki developers * URL : https://www.mediawiki.org/ * License : GPL-2.0+ Programming Lang: PHP Description : website engine for collabo

Re: Re: Hardware detection

2016-01-07 Thread Stephan Foley
Hello and thank you for this in depth answer! On 2016-01-07, Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: As someone working on Debian derived live systems since the earlier kernel 2.4 days, I wonder why you think to need any of those on a modern linux system at all? I am probably reading old references. I

Bug#810288: ITP: perspective-el -- tagged workspaces in Emacs

2016-01-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sean Whitton * Package name: perspective-el Version : 1.12 Upstream Author : Natalie Weizenbaum * URL : https://github.com/nex3/perspective-el * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp Description : tagged w

Bug#810289: ITP: helm -- Emacs incremental completion and selection narrowing framework

2016-01-07 Thread Sean Whitton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sean Whitton * Package name: helm Version : 1.9.1 Upstream Author : Thierry Volpiatto * URL : https://emacs-helm.github.io/helm/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp Description : Emacs incremental comp

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On 07/01/16 08:36, Paul Wise wrote: > $something should > automatically manage the contents of /bin /sbin /lib (/boot?) based on > the tools needed to mount /usr (perhaps plus some more recovery > tools) I really don't think that's a good approach, particularly as a default. We already have tools

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Marc Haber writes: > Unfortunately, it's emotions that take vendor decisions. Your attitude > is driving big users towards the paid-for Enterprise Linuxes, be it > logical or not, be it good engineering or not. ...the ones that have already merged /usr and /? I'm not sure I understand this reas

Re: Hardware detection

2016-01-07 Thread Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
Hi On 2016-01-07, Stephan Foley wrote: > Hello, I am working on a Fluxbox Debian Pure Blend: > > https://wiki.debian.org/FluxBox/Blend > > Currently, I am going to use discover, mdetect and read-edid for > hardware discovery but found in the repos hwinfo which is used by > Debian Edu and was won

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Philip Hands
Marc Haber writes: > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:37:03 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >>On Jan 05, Ian Jackson wrote: >> >>> People who have been using a configuration for many years naturally >>> become upset when they are told that it has been `unsupported' for all >>> of this time and that, implicitly

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 14:37:17 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: >That's why I was suggesting a replacement package that would provide >similar functionality but using 'ip' so not subject to the limitations >of the vlan ioctl interface. Do we already have such a replacement package? Greetings Marc -- -

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:37:03 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >On Jan 05, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> People who have been using a configuration for many years naturally >> become upset when they are told that it has been `unsupported' for all >> of this time and that, implicitly, changes are going to be ma

Bug#810263: ITP: python-scales -- Metrics for Python

2016-01-07 Thread Federico Ceratto
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Federico Ceratto * Package name: python-scales Version : 1.0.9 Upstream Author : The scales Authors * URL : https://github.com/Cue/scales * License : Apache-2.0, MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Metrics

Re: overlayfs (was: Re: support for merged /usr in Debian)

2016-01-07 Thread Matthias Klumpp
I am using overlayFS in Limba[1], and it works well (and is really fast!) for read-only filesystems, read-write sometimes has issues if you are using multiple OverlayFS layers (which made me adjust the code so this doesn't happen anymore). 2016-01-06 17:29 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Dowland : > I wish I c

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 09:57:26 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: >On Fri, Jan 01, 2016 at 06:20:42PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> >> > https://wiki.debian.org/UsrMerge >> >> Now that we have union mounts in Linux > >Do you mean overlayfs? If so can

Bug#810241: ITP: pulseaudio-dlna -- A lightweight streaming server which brings DLNA / UPNP and Chromecast support to PulseAudio and Linux

2016-01-07 Thread Muammar El Khatib
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: pulseaudio-dlna Version: 0.4.7 Upstream Author: Massimo Mund URL: https://github.com/masmu/pulseaudio-dlna License: GPL-3 Descri

Re: Rudy Godoy MIA?

2016-01-07 Thread Tobias Frost
Am Donnerstag, den 07.01.2016, 10:23 +0100 schrieb Pedretti Fabio: > Hi, I tried to contact debian developer Rudy Godoy but I got no > reply. A > package he maintains, torcs, is in need of an update since some > years. > > As explained here: > https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-referenc

Re: vlan support en* or br*?

2016-01-07 Thread Andreas Henriksson
Hello. On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 02:47:31AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] > The real problem is that vconfig (or rather the kernel interface it > used) imposed any scheme at all.  Requiring a '.' is equally short- > sighted. Let me give an example: IMHO not equally, but yes... too shortsighted.

Rudy Godoy MIA?

2016-01-07 Thread Pedretti Fabio
Hi, I tried to contact debian developer Rudy Godoy but I got no reply. A package he maintains, torcs, is in need of an update since some years. As explained here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/beyond-pkging.html#mia-qa I am sending this mail.

Re: support for merged /usr in Debian

2016-01-07 Thread Paul Wise
While reading the LWN article about this, I had a thought that might be interesting. The packages should all install to /usr and $something should automatically manage the contents of /bin /sbin /lib (/boot?) based on the tools needed to mount /usr (perhaps plus some more recovery tools), just lik