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On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 14:15:21 +0100, Christian Seiler
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>On 01/04/2016 11:44 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 21:35:39 +0100, Christian Seiler
>> wrote:
>>> So that was the state in February of 2011, when the warning was added
>>> to systemd
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Marc Haber writes:
> Keep support for things that used to work for, say, at least three or
> four stable releases, document that and commit to it. And, of course,
> stick to it.
So at approx 2 years per stable release, that would be around 6 to 8
years before we
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On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 09:50:56AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> The loss of keyscript just broke my clients. I am really afraid of the
> first system update breaking my _servers_, causing a resinstall to be
> necessary. I know of one customer who already said that if a reinstall
> will become
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 13:04:16 +, Riku Voipio
wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 09:50:56AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> The loss of keyscript just broke my clients. I am really afraid of the
>> first system update breaking my _servers_, causing a resinstall to be
>> necessary. I
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 14:24:52 +0100, Christian Seiler
wrote:
> - Instead it was proposed to use password agents (see [1]) for this.
>
> - Problem with that is that the password agents don't support
> arbitrary binary data, which is needed for keys (they only support
> plain
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Riku Voipio:
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 09:50:56AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> The loss of keyscript just broke my clients. I am really afraid of the
>> first system update breaking my _servers_, causing a resinstall to be
>> necessary. I know of one customer who already said that if a reinstall
>>
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 11:49:48AM +0100, Michael Prokop wrote:
We've an open wishlist bug report for the "download the Grml ISO"
part (#754393) which we plan to resolve soonish, jfyi.
Ah, thank you very much. That still leaves the space problem. Only my
newer systems where I knew that I
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 09:44:17 +0100, Christian Seiler
wrote:
>On 01/08/2016 09:41 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Jan 2016 00:03:31 +0100, Philipp Kern
>> wrote:
>>> On 2016-01-04 11:30, Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 22:30:24 +0100, Eric
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On Jan 08, Marc Haber wrote:
> important functionality maked as "broken", "obsolete" and eventually
> removed, just as the keyscript= feature of /etc/crypttab was lost a
> year ago (noone cared).
Let's be clear here: nobody cared enough to implement it.
It was
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:53:43 +0100, m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote:
>On Jan 08, Marc Haber wrote:
>> important functionality maked as "broken", "obsolete" and eventually
>> removed, just as the keyscript= feature of /etc/crypttab was lost a
>> year ago (noone
On Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:20:21 +1100, Brian May wrote:
>Marc Haber writes:
>> Keep support for things that used to work for, say, at least three or
>> four stable releases, document that and commit to it. And, of course,
>> stick to it.
>
>So at
On 01/08/2016 12:53 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jan 08, Marc Haber wrote:
>
>> important functionality maked as "broken", "obsolete" and eventually
>> removed, just as the keyscript= feature of /etc/crypttab was lost a
>> year ago (noone cared).
> Let's be clear
On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 10:32:03 +0100, Andrew Shadura
wrote:
>Marc, please re-read the whole thread from the very beginning. Nobody
>forces merged /usr on you.
Enough trust has been lost in the past years that I'd like to have a
commitment for that. Write it down, and I'm fine.
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On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 03:13:12PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> All _my_ clients run unstable anyway
I'll leave the obvious response here to others.
But, what I find odd about this is you've suggested that there should be a
*multi-release* transition for a change like this, more than once in the
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 11:18:41AM +0100, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> Wrong. You have a wrapper package that adds grml iso from /boot/grml to the
> grub.cfg. You have to download the grml images yourself and you need the
> space to save the images in /boot/grml.
Thanks for explaining: I was under the
Marc Haber:
> Debian has already been forked by people who found Debian's release
> cycles too long. The result is called Ubuntu, and we lost many of the
> users (and developers!) who want shorter release cycles to them.
>
> Now, we aim for shorter release cycles ourselves, which won't bring
>
> I'd like to suggest we move all Vcs-Git entries to either `https` or
> `ssh`.
>
As mapreri points out - this is for anon clone, so only https - as I
pointed out in a blog post years ago, ssh is a bad idea :)
http://blog.pault.ag/post/27268910152/usage-of-vcs-git-in-the-debian-archive
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On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 15:01:53 +, Jonathan Dowland
wrote:
>and since you are running sid anyway, it wouldn't even help you, so I'm puzzled
>why you suggested it.
You obviously don't see the difference between a customer, a client
machine and a server. This might be a matter of
On 01/08/2016 10:21 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 13:38:15 +0100, Christian Seiler
> wrote:
>> On 01/04/2016 11:41 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
>>> We have already shown how "much" we care about the users of non-Linux
>>> kernels in Debian ("not at all, they can happily
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On Friday, January 08, 2016 10:43:40 AM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Hey devel,
>
> We still have `git://` all over the place, for instance, on Vcs-Git on
> control files. That makes me sad. Boo insecure transports.
>
> `git://` is plaintext, and plaintext transports are bad.
>
> I'd like to
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Christoph Anton Mitterer writes:
> On Fri, 2016-01-08 at 10:43 -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
>> I'd like to suggest we move all Vcs-Git entries to either `https` or
> I doubt https will give any real hard additional security, based on the
> inherent problems of the X.509
I want to report a bug regarding to {anonscm,git}.debian.org, but I
don't find a pseudo package to file bugreport to, so I contacted
ad...@alioth.debian.org, but no reply yet for nearly 1 month.
I hope maybe someone here can help. Thank you!
Cheers,
Roger
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Hey devel,
We still have `git://` all over the place, for instance, on Vcs-Git on
control files. That makes me sad. Boo insecure transports.
`git://` is plaintext, and plaintext transports are bad.
I'd like to suggest we move all Vcs-Git entries to either `https` or
`ssh`.
Signing tags is a
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Paul Tagliamonte writes:
> We still have `git://` all over the place, for instance, on Vcs-Git on
> control files. That makes me sad. Boo insecure transports.
>
> `git://` is plaintext, and plaintext transports are bad.
>
> I'd like to
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 10:43:40AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Hey devel,
>
> We still have `git://` all over the place, for instance, on Vcs-Git on
> control files. That makes me sad. Boo insecure transports.
>
> `git://` is plaintext, and plaintext transports are bad.
>
> I'd like to
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On Sat, 09 Jan 2016, Roger Shimizu wrote:
> I want to report a bug regarding to {anonscm,git}.debian.org, but I
> don't find a pseudo package to file bugreport to, so I contacted
> ad...@alioth.debian.org, but no reply yet for nearly 1 month.
>
> I hope maybe someone here can help. Thank you!
>
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On Fri, 2016-01-08 at 10:43 -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> I'd like to suggest we move all Vcs-Git entries to either `https` or
I doubt https will give any real hard additional security, based on the
inherent problems of the X.509 CA system.
Per default, git would take the system CA store,
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On Jan 08 2016, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-01-07 at 22:46 +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
>> Marc Haber writes:
>>
>> > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:37:03 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> > > On Jan 05, Ian Jackson
On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 12:19 AM, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> On Sat, 09 Jan 2016, Roger Shimizu wrote:
>> https://anonscm.debian.org/git/kernel/linux.git
> All those urls work for cloning.
>
> So what exactly is your problem?
Thanks for your response!
In browser, you see an
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Good point, and I stand corrected. Thanks!
Let's beat GitHub!
Paul
On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Andrew Shadura wrote:
> On 08/01/16 16:43, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > `git://` provides no upside and really shouldn't exist anymore. GitHub
> > has even turned it off[1]
>
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Hi,
> http://blog.pault.ag/post/27268910152/usage-of-vcs-git-in-the-debian-archive
>
> Enter github.com/debian
>
> – IMHO, we should consider putting the repos that are already on
> GitHub under Debian namespace, so that the team of maintainers
> may be able to add new collaborators.
I'd like to
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On 2016-01-08 16:43, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
Hey devel,
We still have `git://` all over the place, for instance, on Vcs-Git on
control files. That makes me sad. Boo insecure transports.
`git://` is plaintext, and plaintext transports are bad.
I'd like to suggest we move all Vcs-Git entries to
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