Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Vincent Danjean
Le 31/05/2017 à 09:51, Simon McVittie a écrit : > On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 00:20:18 +, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: >> AFAIK, mdadm's default (and maybe only supported, without some custom >> scripting) way to report a degraded array is email. > > Can't it report this via the system log? (syslog, s

Re: Packaging of libraries with unstable ABI (D, Rust, Go, ...)

2017-05-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 06:43:13PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > 2017-05-18 19:52 GMT+02:00 Sean Whitton : > > Hello Matthias, > > > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 04:37:58PM +0200, Matthias Klumpp wrote: > >> Looking at what other languages with the same problem have done, there > >> are basically tw

Re: Bug#863799: ITP: redtick -- tiny pomodoro timer for Emacs

2017-05-31 Thread Sean Whitton
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 04:40:56PM +0200, Carsten Leonhardt wrote: > I'm curious to see the long description, as I don't see the > relationship between tomatoes and timers. Sure! Description: tiny pomodoro timer for Emacs This package provides a little pomodoro timer in the mode-line. . After

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there, On Tue, 30 May 2017 13:57:03 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > For example, very few packages should Depend/Recommend a MTA: if you > just send notifications (like mdadm), you would need a properly > configured MTA anyway or they just end up in a file nobody will ever > look at (I don't s

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 03:17:27PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Borowski wrote: > > (I'm not filing bugs yet as it's better to have a consensus first before > > mass-filing.) > > It is being done on a per-case basis, isn't it? Like you described the > libu

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On 31 May 2017 at 13:53, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:31:43AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: >> On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 11:32:29 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: >> > Trust is not transitive. Perhaps Recommends should not be either? >> >> Recommends are for the relationship "want

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Nicholas D Steeves
On 30 May 2017 at 07:57, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > my impression is that too many packages use Recommends that should > really be Suggests. As a random example: installing dracut as a > initramfs provider will pull in exim4... (dracut-core Recommends: mdadm > which Recommends: default-mta

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 31 May 2017, Adam Borowski wrote: > Thus, axing this dependency or degrading it to Suggests would be probably a > good idea. And there's hundreds if not thousands of Recommends of this kind > that need to be looked at -- this example is just more prominent as it > affects every Debian syst

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 11:31:43AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 11:32:29 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > > Trust is not transitive. Perhaps Recommends should not be either? > > Recommends are for the relationship "wanting foo but not bar is unusual". > If A Recommends B

Bug#863721: python-ncclient-doc: fails to upgrade from 'testing' - trying to overwrite /usr/share/doc/python-ncclient/html/_sources/api.txt

2017-05-31 Thread Sebastien Badia
On Tuedd, May 30, 2017 at 02:43:10PM (+0200), Andreas Beckmann wrote: > It installed fine in 'testing', then the upgrade to 'sid' fails > because it tries to overwrite other packages files without declaring a > Breaks+Replaces relation. tags 863721 + pending thanks Hi, Thanks Andreas! I should n

Bug#863825: ITP: ayatana-indicator-session -- Ayatana Indicator showing session management, status and user switching

2017-05-31 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: ayatana-indicator-session Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Mike Gabriel Charles Kerr * URL : https://github.com/ArcticaProject/ayatana-indicator-session * License : GPL

Bug#863799: ITP: redtick -- tiny pomodoro timer for Emacs

2017-05-31 Thread Sean Whitton
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sean Whitton * Package name: redtick Version : 00.01.02+git20170220.e6d2e9b Upstream Author : F. Febles * URL : https://github.com/ferfebles/redtick * License : public domain Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp Description

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 11:32:29 +1200, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > Trust is not transitive. Perhaps Recommends should not be either? Recommends are for the relationship "wanting foo but not bar is unusual". If A Recommends B and B Recommends C, and if we assume for example that "unusual" means 10%

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Ben Caradoc-Davies writes: > Trust is not transitive. If trust is not transitive, then what for trust network exists?

Re: Too many Recommends (in particular on mail-transport-agent)

2017-05-31 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 31 May 2017 at 00:20:18 +, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > AFAIK, mdadm's default (and maybe only supported, without some custom > scripting) way to report a degraded array is email. Can't it report this via the system log? (syslog, systemd-journald) > OTOH, seems weird for Dracut to reco