Re: IMPORTANT: Do live Debian images have a future?

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 21:00 +0530, shirish शिरीष wrote: > On 12/07/2017, Fernando Toledo wrote: > > Our Use-case: > > > > We develop a derivated distro from Debian called Huayra GNU/Linux, > > this is for educational program of government in Argentina. This > > big program ship around 5 millons o

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

On Wed, 2017-07-12 at 17:35 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > I'd rather have breakage in this case than having to look for the > interface every fscking time I need to run tcpdump, or having to > adapt to an entirely new name schema like lanc0 and lanw0 to not > stomp in the kernel's name space when usin

Re: Clearing the conffile status of a file

* Sven Joachim: > On 2017-07-12 09:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> I've got a request to remove the conffile status of a file after it is >> no longer a conffile. dpkg-maintscript-helper rm_conffile does not >> seem to do this, based on the documentation and the source code. >> >> Is there a

Re: can't start GUI mode debian 9

On 12/07/17 14:51, Agung Vega wrote: Then what next? I want to use gui version (I had sent an email about the same problem, before this one ) This email would be better sent to the debian-user mailing list. The debian-devel list is for the development of Debian. This is a user support questio

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 12.07.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Matt Zagrabelny: > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Michael Biebl > > wrote: > > > > Am 12.07.2017 um 17:35 schrieb Marc Haber: > > > My finger memory will still type tcpdump -i eth0 bef

Re: Clearing the conffile status of a file

On 2017-07-12 09:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > I've got a request to remove the conffile status of a file after it is > no longer a conffile. dpkg-maintscript-helper rm_conffile does not > seem to do this, based on the documentation and the source code. > > Is there a clean way to implement t

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 07:40:13PM +0100, Roger Lynn wrote: > On 10/07/17 19:40, Marvin Renich wrote: > > > > > There is an easy fix to revert the default behavior while still allowing > > knowledgeable sysadmins to get the new behavior. On the other hand, > > those who need to administer syste

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

Am 12.07.2017 um 18:58 schrieb Matt Zagrabelny: > > > On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Michael Biebl > wrote: > > Am 12.07.2017 um 17:35 schrieb Marc Haber: > > My finger memory will still type tcpdump -i eth0 before the brain can > > intervene ten years fr

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

Am 12.07.2017 um 20:40 schrieb Roger Lynn: > On 10/07/17 19:40, Marvin Renich wrote: > > > >> There is an easy fix to revert the default behavior while still allowing >> knowledgeable sysadmins to get the new behavior. On the other hand, >> those who need to administer systems but are not sysad

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 08:42:50PM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > ❦ 12 juillet 2017 17:35 +0200, Marc Haber  : > >>> sudo ip link; sudo ip addr; > >> > >>no need for sudo, this is enough: > >> > >>ip link ; ip addr > >> > >>or even shorter: > >> > >>ip l ; ip a > > > > Still, an elderly family m

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

On 10/07/17 19:40, Marvin Renich wrote: > There is an easy fix to revert the default behavior while still allowing > knowledgeable sysadmins to get the new behavior. On the other hand, > those who need to administer systems but are not sysadmins by trade (and > thus will have to do significantl

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

❦ 12 juillet 2017 17:35 +0200, Marc Haber  : >>> sudo ip link; sudo ip addr; >> >>no need for sudo, this is enough: >> >>ip link ; ip addr >> >>or even shorter: >> >>ip l ; ip a > > Still, an elderly family member reading this out to you on the phone > is very very energy-draining. Right click

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 12.07.2017 um 17:35 schrieb Marc Haber: > > My finger memory will still type tcpdump -i eth0 before the brain can > > intervene ten years from now. > > thankfully tcpdump (and lots of other tools) have nice shell completion. > tcpdump -i

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

Am 12.07.2017 um 17:35 schrieb Marc Haber: > My finger memory will still type tcpdump -i eth0 before the brain can > intervene ten years from now. thankfully tcpdump (and lots of other tools) have nice shell completion. tcpdump -i works great her. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeki

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 08:38:36 +, Holger Levsen wrote: >On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44:47AM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, Bjørn Mork wrote: >> > Previously I could ask a user to do e.g. 'ifconfig wwan0'. Now? >> >> sudo ip link; sudo ip addr; > >no need for sudo, this is e

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

On Tue, 11 Jul 2017 15:20:41 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >Am 11.07.2017 um 12:14 schrieb Guus Sliepen: >> Ok, it should be clear now that the new way of naming interfaces is not >> ideal, but the older ways weren't either. Let's have a look at what we >> want: >> >> - A simple name for systems wi

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

On Jul 12, 2017 03:39, "Holger Levsen" wrote: On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44:47AM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, Bjørn Mork wrote: > > Previously I could ask a user to do e.g. 'ifconfig wwan0'. Now? > > sudo ip link; sudo ip addr; no need for sudo, this is enough: ip link ; i

Re: IMPORTANT: Do live Debian images have a future?

at bottom :- On 12/07/2017, Fernando Toledo wrote: > El 26/06/17 a las 11:08, Steve McIntyre escribió: >> [ Note the cross-posting... ] >> >> Hey folks, >> > > Our Use-case: > > We develop a derivated distro from Debian called Huayra GNU/Linux, this > is for educational program of government in A

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Re: IMPORTANT: Do live Debian images have a future?

El 26/06/17 a las 11:08, Steve McIntyre escribió: > [ Note the cross-posting... ] > > Hey folks, > Our Use-case: We develop a derivated distro from Debian called Huayra GNU/Linux, this is for educational program of government in Argentina. This big program ship around 5 millons of netbooks to h

Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster

Nikolaus Rath writes ("Re: Naming of network devices - how to improve it in buster"): > I wonder if anyone actually uses /dev/disk/by-path? $ grep path /etc/fstab /dev/disk/by-path/pci-:3b:00.0-platform-rtsx_pci_sdmmc.0-part1/media/sd autorw,user,noauto 0 0 $ ^ from my laptop.

Re: Bad interaction between pbuilder/debhelper/dpkg-buildinfo/dpkg-genchanges and dak on security-master

James Clarke writes ("Re: Bad interaction between pbuilder/debhelper/dpkg-buildinfo/dpkg-genchanges and dak on security-master"): > Having the _amd64.buildinfo included in a _source.changes created by > dpkg-genchanges -S in a tree which has done a source+binary build is an > intended feature. Wa

Re: P.S. Re: Debian 9 in a VM with Proxmox 5 system

On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:44:47AM -0500, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jul 2017, Bjørn Mork wrote: > > Previously I could ask a user to do e.g. 'ifconfig wwan0'. Now? > > sudo ip link; sudo ip addr; no need for sudo, this is enough: ip link ; ip addr or even shorter: ip l ; ip a -- c

Clearing the conffile status of a file

I've got a request to remove the conffile status of a file after it is no longer a conffile. dpkg-maintscript-helper rm_conffile does not seem to do this, based on the documentation and the source code. Is there a clean way to implement this (i.e., by not patching /var/lib/dpkg/status directly)?