Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 10:39:30PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > IMHO you should document yourself > *before* trying something, and I am not even considering firmware at > all. Or, if you prefer, you should not assume that everything works out > of the box (in any field, thus not IT-restricted). Th

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there, On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 13:17:13 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 10:14:21PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > > > > It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free > > > > firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download > > > > the

Re: Bug#883133: Bug#883134: general: Add new package header Upstream-Version:

2017-12-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Stone writes: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 09:28:21PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:18:53AM +, Ian Campbell wrote: >>> On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 06:06 +0200, Victor Porton wrote: For this I need the upstream versions of "python2.7" and "xsltproc". >>> T

Re: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint)

2017-12-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Fri, 2017-12-01 at 12:16 -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 05:31:09PM +0100, Alf Gaida wrote: > > > > > > > Ian, thats dead easy - put the needed packages onto the iso and be done > > with. The installer should have an option to opt-in contrib and/or > > non-free. Done

Bug#883133: Bug#883134: general: Add new package header Upstream-Version:

2017-12-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 09:28:21PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:18:53AM +, Ian Campbell wrote: On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 06:06 +0200, Victor Porton wrote: > For this I need the upstream versions of "python2.7" and "xsltproc". The upstream version of a Debian packa

Bug#883133: Bug#883134: general: Add new package header Upstream-Version:

2017-12-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:18:53AM +, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 06:06 +0200, Victor Porton wrote: > > For this I need the upstream versions of "python2.7" and "xsltproc". > > The upstream version of a Debian package can be deterministically > extracted from the package versio

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Sue Spence
On 2 December 2017 at 11:49, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 12:32:29PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > URL is https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/ > cd-including-firmware/ > > so who will make nonfree.debian.net and non-free.debian.net > http-redirect to that U

Bug#883133: Bug#883134: general: Add new package header Upstream-Version:

2017-12-02 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 06:06 +0200, Victor Porton wrote: > For this I need the upstream versions of "python2.7" and "xsltproc". The upstream version of a Debian package can be deterministically extracted from the package version, see https://www.debian.org/doc/debi an-policy/#s-f-version for the fo

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 12:32:29PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > URL is > https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ so who will make nonfree.debian.net and non-free.debian.net http-redirect to that URL? :) -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Descript

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 12:32:29PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote: > > > http://get.debian.org > > > Might not be beautiful, but it has the needed information, clearly > > > spelt out. > > > > besides that I find that page still too confusing / not simple enough, > > it also lacks information about t

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Medical Wei
Actually I am thinking about people with non-free firmware problems to get additional firmware and download them to another USB disk. In this way the user don't need to re-download an "non-official" ISO to install Debian. But if Policy can allow non-free firmware to go accompany with the ISO it co

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Geert Stappers
On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 10:49:32AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 12:05:27PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > http://get.debian.org > > Might not be beautiful, but it has the needed information, clearly > > spelt out. > > besides that I find that page still too confusing / not

Bug#883322: ITP: bitseq -- Bayesian Inference of Transcripts from Sequencing Data

2017-12-02 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille * Package name: bitseq Version : 0.7.5 Upstream Author : Peter Glaus * URL : https://github.com/BitSeq/BitSeq * License : Artistic Programming Lang: C++ Description : Bayesian Inference of Transcrip

Bug#883133: general: Add new package header Upstream-Version:

2017-12-02 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 02 Dec 2017 at 06:06:29 +0200, Victor Porton wrote: > A script may be specified by a user of my software by the URL of the > script and name and version range of the interpreter (simplified > explanation). I don't see how a new Upstream-Version field would help you to do this. Let's suppo

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread eamanu15 .
El sáb., 2 de dic. de 2017 a la(s) 05:17, Andrey Rahmatullin < w...@debian.org> escribió: > On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 10:14:21PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > > > > It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free > > > > firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to dow

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 12:05:27PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > http://get.debian.org > Might not be beautiful, but it has the needed information, clearly > spelt out. besides that I find that page still too confusing / not simple enough, it also lacks information about the non-free images. -- c

Re: ISO download difficult (was: Debian Stretch new user report (vs Linux Mint))

2017-12-02 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Fri, Dec 01, 2017 at 10:14:21PM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > > > It would have been best for him to download the ISO with non-free > > > firmware embedded, do you know how he made the decision to download > > > the ISO without non-free firmware? > > > > Every time I need a Debian ISO, it takes