Re: autopkgtest results influencing migration from unstable to testing

2018-06-05 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 06 Jun 2018 at 10:28:53 +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: > ruby-state-machines and ruby-state-machines-activemodel should go > together and even when autopkgtest for the version is unstable passed, > instead of reducing the age, it is considered a regression because > autopkgtest for the versio

Bug#900867: ITP: firefox-syncserver -- Firefox Sync storage and token server

2018-06-05 Thread Phil Morrell
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Phil Morrell * Package name: firefox-syncserver Version : 1.8.0 Upstream Author : Mozilla Corporation * URL : https://github.com/mozilla-services/syncserver * License : MPL-2.0 Programming Lang: Python 2 Description

Re: autopkgtest results influencing migration from unstable to testing

2018-06-05 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Thursday 03 May 2018 02:39 AM, Paul Gevers wrote: > It is the intention that in the (far) future regressions will become > blocking for migration, but until then the added age will probably be > raised over time as a semi-block. > > There is one important note to make here on how to go about re

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Pirate Praveen
On June 4, 2018 6:27:13 PM GMT+05:30, Bastian Blank wrote: > However, we actually pull in some external >binaries, for node, yarn and go. Newer versions of node and go are available via stretch-backports. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Russell Stuart
On Tue, 2018-06-05 at 15:44 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Packages are great for software which you can just install and use > without much fuss.  That is often true for mature software.  But for > services which are less mature, and more complex, and which have more > tentacles, the admin is likely

Re: Status of wvstreams

2018-06-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2018-06-05 23:15, Simon McVittie wrote: > NetworkManager supports PPPOE (e.g. ADSL), and cellular modems (3G, etc.) > via ModemManager. It doesn't support the analogue dial-up modems that > were popular 10-20 years ago. I don't think the major NM alternatives > (wicd, ConnMan etc.) support those

Re: Status of wvstreams

2018-06-05 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 05 Jun 2018 at 21:46:37 +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote: > wvstreams has a RC bug due to the openssl transition. There seems not to > be any upstream activity, the last commit on github was from 2011. It > has one reverse dependency which is wvdial. > wvdial itself saw its last uploa

Bug#900850: ITP: node-istanbul -- a javascript code coverage tool

2018-06-05 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: ro...@debian.org X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: node-istanbul Version : 0.4.5 Upstream Author : Krishnan Anantheswaran * URL : https://github.com/gotwarlost/istanbul#readme * License : BSD-3-C

Bug#900849: allowing alternative country lists on a Debian host/installer

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel Pocock
Package: iso-codes Severity: wishlist Version: 3.75-1 X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org I've been thinking about technical solutions to help the country list bug[1] and the following possibility came to mind: - define a virtual package with a name like "country-codes" - src:iso-codes

Bug#900842: ITP: rake-ant -- Ant tasks and integration for Rake under JRuby

2018-06-05 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miguel Landaeta * Package name: rake-ant Version : 1.0.4 Upstream Author : Charles Oliver Nutter * URL : https://github.com/jruby/rake-ant * License : EPL-2.0 Programming Lang: Ruby Description : Ant tasks and in

Re: Status of wvstreams

2018-06-05 Thread Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
I'm forwarding this to d-devel@ to reach a broader audience since my initial email received no feedback. Hi, wvstreams has a RC bug due to the openssl transition. There seems not to be any upstream activity, the last commit on github was from 2011. It has one reverse dependency which is wvdial. w

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 10:24:20AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > My personal experience is that there is an interesting cycle of scale > here. [...] This entire email is roughly what I was trying to say, only (as usual for Russ) much more clearly put. Thanks. > More broadly, one useful way to thi

Re: packages which have not been rebuild since December 2016

2018-06-05 Thread Chris Lamb
Chris Lamb wrote: > Given that we forgot to mention this issue at least once, I would like > to create a bug in the BTS for it. > > This would have the advantages of being a good place to store the > latest status as well as being a convenient way to link others to it. I went ahead and filed th

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Colin Watson writes: > My experience has been that if I'm working on a complex service then I > want as little friction as possible for the fast-moving stuff that I'm > working on directly and so often end up deploying that straight from git > or whatever, but that I prefer to use packages for ev

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Bastian Blank writes ("Re: concerns about Salsa"): > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 12:54:32PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Salsa is hardly the first Debian production service to not be running > > the packaged version of its primary application, and it won't be the > > last. ftp.debian.org isn't runnin

Bug#900831: ITP: gitlab-ci-mode-el -- Emacs mode for editing GitLab CI files

2018-06-05 Thread Lev Lamberov
Package: wnpp Owner: Lev Lamberov Severity: wishlist * Package name: gitlab-ci-mode-el Version : 20180306.1 Upstream Author : Joe Wreschnig * URL or Web page : https://gitlab.com/joewreschnig/gitlab-ci-mode * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Emacs Lisp Description

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Pierre-Elliott Bécue writes ("Re: concerns about Salsa"): > Le lundi 04 juin 2018 à 12:54:32+0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > In practice, I have found that it is much easier to deploy a > > production service directly from its git tree. This makes it much > > easier to make changes. > > I've alwa

Re: Bug#899299: libu2f-udev: Post-inst script should make udev reload rules

2018-06-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Nicolas Braud-Santoni writes ("Re: Bug#899299: libu2f-udev: Post-inst script should make udev reload rules"): > On Sun, Jun 03, 2018 at 06:20:03PM +0100, James Cowgill wrote: > > Running a command from another package in postinst only requires a > > normal Depends - not a Pre-Depends. > > OK. I

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Colin Watson writes ("Re: concerns about Salsa"): > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:37:16PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > I wonder then, if a lot of people prefer deploy a service from > > upstream's git repo/cookbooks, what is the purpose of packaging? > > Who would benefit from it and who sho

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Ian Jackson
Wookey writes ("Re: concerns about Salsa"): > Buildds don't run the packaged version either, and this contributes to > it being much harder than it should be to set up local buildd > infrastructure. There are good reasons for this from the admin's POV, > but the side-effects are signifcant and I'd

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread W. Martin Borgert
Quoting Pierre-Elliott Bécue : I've always found otherwise, ie that packaged stuff makes the administrator of a service spare a lot of time. Same here, but it's a matter of taste and requirement diversity. I wonder then, if a lot of people prefer deploy a service from upstream's git repo/cook

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Le lundi 04 juin 2018 à 12:54:32+0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : >> >> In practice, I have found that it is much easier to deploy a >> production service directly from its git tree. This makes it much >> easier to make changes. > > I've alw

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:37:16PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Le lundi 04 juin 2018 à 12:54:32+0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > In practice, I have found that it is much easier to deploy a > > production service directly from its git tree. This makes it much > > easier to make changes. >

What is the purpose of a packaged-distro today (was: concerns about Salsa)

2018-06-05 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le mardi 05 juin 2018 à 17:48:47+0500, Andrey Rahmatullin a écrit : > On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:37:16PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > I wonder then, if a lot of people prefer deploy a service from upstream's > > git repo/cookbooks, what is the purpose of packaging? Who would benefit from

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 02:37:16PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > I wonder then, if a lot of people prefer deploy a service from upstream's > git repo/cookbooks, what is the purpose of packaging? Who would benefit from > it and who should use package-distros? Yes, it's a more and more importa

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le lundi 04 juin 2018 à 12:54:32+0100, Ian Jackson a écrit : > > Aren't we sending a wrong message that packaging is not important? > > In practice, I have found that it is much easier to deploy a > production service directly from its git tree. This makes it much > easier to make changes. I've

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2018-06-05 00:12, Wookey wrote: On 2018-06-04 21:52 +, Clint Adams wrote: On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 12:54:32PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Salsa is hardly the first Debian production service to not be running > the packaged version of its primary application, and it won't be the > last. ft

Re: rkt, Golang

2018-06-05 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 6:08:50 PM AEST Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Though I admit golang is a crappy language to support given one has to > rebuild everything all the time there is a security update. Just > imagine libc (or worse: linux) was written in Go and there was a > security update: just reb

Re: rkt

2018-06-05 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Dmitry Smirnov writes: > On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 5:11:31 PM AEST Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> rkt is neither in testing nor stable... > > Unfortunately... However it is a static Golang binary with minimum external > run-time dependencies which makes it possible to reasonably safely install > rkt on

Re: rkt

2018-06-05 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Tuesday, 5 June 2018 5:11:31 PM AEST Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > rkt is neither in testing nor stable... Unfortunately... However it is a static Golang binary with minimum external run-time dependencies which makes it possible to reasonably safely install rkt on Stretch straight from "unstable"

Re: concerns about Salsa

2018-06-05 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Dmitry Smirnov writes: > Do you think there will be a potential to move services to containers, > probably on "rkt" runtime[*] ? rkt is neither in testing nor stable... > [*]: Because Docker sucks... Does rkt then suck more because it depends on docker stuff (at least in Debian)? *scnr* Ansgar