Re: Review of dwarves 1.12-1 (and sponsoring)

2018-11-24 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 10:28 PM Domenico Andreoli wrote: > I need a sponsor to upload this package. Any volunteer? The standard RFS process should still work in your case: https://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/rfs-howto https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers -- bye, pabs https://wiki.deb

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Adam Borowski > Tested on an early bronze age i386 box with an "82915G/GV/910GL"; both > glxgears and es2gears_x11 work fine. I don't think anyone is going to run a > modern desktop environment on a machine older than that. > > But that's an Intel card -- with nVidia, stuff 3 years old gets

Handling library with unstable ABI in experimental -- suggestions?

2018-11-24 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
I have filed an ITP [0] for the Mongo C++ Driver. So far upstream has not yet declared a stable ABI. As a result, I intend to upload to experimental. I am curious if anyone has suggestions for naming the library package in experimental in such a way that it handles the currently unstable ABI and

Bug#914573: ITP: mongo-cxx-driver -- MongoDB C++ client library

2018-11-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Roberto C. Sanchez" -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: mongo-cxx-driver Version : 3.4.0 Upstream Author : Mongo C++ Driver Team * URL : http://mongocxx.org/ * License : Apache License 2.0

wxWidgets GTK+ 3 build available

2018-11-24 Thread Scott Talbert
Hi, Since ~March, we have a GTK+ 3 build of wxWidgets in Unstable/Testing. Packages that use wxWidgets may switch over to this build if they desire, although we are not pushing to remove the wx GTK+ 2 package in Buster, so packages can continue to use the GTK+ 2 build for Buster. To switch a

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-24 Thread Theodore Y. Ts'o
On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 11:27:46AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > My position as a usrmerge sceptic, of letting them get on with doing > > their thing, now seems to have been unwise. The idea that it would be > > optional mutated, without proper discussion, and without a transition > > plan, into

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
Hey Scott, On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 9:01 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Saturday, November 24, 2018 08:36:11 PM bret curtis wrote: > > We have a Rasberry Pi working as a desktop here at my house. It's quite > usable as long as you only try to do a few things at a time, but it's not by > any me

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-24 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 24, "Gabriel F. T. Gomes" wrote: > Has this option been given enough attention? It sounds appealing in Yes. I would love to implement a --dry-run mode, but I still need to figure out how much complex it would be and if it could actually cover all cases. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc

Bug#914555: ITP: node-lunr -- simple full-text search

2018-11-24 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 * Package name: node-lunr Version : 2.3.5 Upstream Author : Oliver Nightingale * URL : https://lunrjs.com/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScrip

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 09:51:49PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:06:16PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sat, 2018-11-24 at 15:21 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > Recent AMD GPUs use the "amdgpu" kernel driver and its accompanying Mesa > > > user-space driver, which

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 06:06:16PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2018-11-24 at 15:21 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > [...] > > Recent AMD GPUs use the "amdgpu" kernel driver and its accompanying Mesa > > user-space driver, which is an open source stack if you don't count the > > GPU firmware

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2018-11-24, Adrian Bunk wrote: > libqt5gui5 has > 1k rdeps I think this is a fact that many people haven't grasped. And some of those are libraries... /Sune

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday, November 24, 2018 08:36:11 PM bret curtis wrote: > > > There are more than 5 million Raspberry Pis were sold as of February > > > 2015. > > > All of them with a VC4 GPU, Raspbian ships with the VC4 mesa driver > > > enabled! > > > > > > I'm of the opinion that the switch away from Des

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
> > > > There are more than 5 million Raspberry Pis were sold as of February 2015. > > All of them with a VC4 GPU, Raspbian ships with the VC4 mesa driver > > enabled! > > > > I'm of the opinion that the switch away from Desktop OpenGL to GLES was a > > huge mistake and should be reversed as soon a

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 02:40:37PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 24.11.18 11:26, Andy Simpkins wrote: > >> So, again: which of the two flavors is the one that benefits more of our > >> user > >> base? > > > > BOTH are possible so why dictate only one? > > > > I would like to see OpenGLES ava

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2018-11-24 at 15:21 +, Simon McVittie wrote: [...] > Recent AMD GPUs use the "amdgpu" kernel driver and its accompanying Mesa > user-space driver, which is an open source stack if you don't count the > GPU firmware. It should be comparable to the situation on Intel integrated > GPUs (bu

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Rebecca N. Palmer
Would packaging Regal solve any of this? https://github.com/p3/regal It claims to implement OpenGL on top of OpenGL ES, but I don't know if it is complete enough or efficient enough to be useful in this context. Dmitry Shachnev wrote: We do not have a final list yet, but packages that may ge

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-24 Thread Gabriel F. T. Gomes
On 23 Nov 2018, Michael Stone wrote: >On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 03:14:44PM +0100, Matthias Klumpp wrote: >>For these cases though maybe the usrmerge script could ask the admin >>on what to do to handle these particular binaries, instead of >>failing. > >Maybe, as I suggested upthread, there could

Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-24 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
On 11/24/18 8:51 PM, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Marco d'Itri wrote: On Nov 21, Michael Stone wrote: How many long-running production systems do you think people have run usrmerge on? I'd guess close to zero, since there is no advantage whatsoever Actually I have quite a lot personally, w

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Rebecca N. Palmer
Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: El viernes, 23 de noviembre de 2018 09:23:29 -03 Dmitry Shachnev escribió: I have an embedded Intel card right now :) Same here, 10 years old machine with an embedded Intel video card. I don't think I can expect it to work with GLES. Wikipedia says I

Re: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-24 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Russ Allbery wrote: The reason why I personally jumped into this thread is that I don't think the initial fix proposed for R was good engineering. We should not be doing that sort of fragile machinations in Autoconf configuration. It will end in tears. We will miss some other binary later, or

Re: Re: usrmerge -- plan B?

2018-11-24 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Marco d'Itri wrote: On Nov 21, Michael Stone wrote: How many long-running production systems do you think people have run usrmerge on? I'd guess close to zero, since there is no advantage whatsoever Actually I have quite a lot personally, with exactly zero problems. On some of them I also en

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread The Wanderer
On 2018-11-24 at 10:21, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 15:10:47 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > >> I don't have access to any non-embedded Intel cards > > Do those exist? I thought Intel only made GPUs that are integrated > into their CPUs (the "HD Graphics" series). Presumably tha

Re: NEW and RC bugs (Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2018-11-24 Thread Sean Whitton
Hello, On Sat 24 Nov 2018 at 04:29PM +0100, Guido Günther wrote: > The experimental distribution is a good place for work in > progress. Maybe the rules for automatic rejects can be relaxed for > experimental so a package can go into the archive (and have e.g. the BTS > used for that version) if

Re: NEW and RC bugs (Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED)

2018-11-24 Thread Guido Günther
Hi, On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 12:52:48PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Holger Levsen writes ("Re: julia_1.0.0-1_amd64.changes REJECTED"): > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 03:19:33PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Why is any of this a reason for an ftpmaster REJECT ? I still think > > > all of this should

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 at 15:10:47 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > I don't have access to any non-embedded Intel cards Do those exist? I thought Intel only made GPUs that are integrated into their CPUs (the "HD Graphics" series). Presumably that's what you meant when you said embedded? As far as I und

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
El sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2018 10:40:37 -03 Matthias Klose escribió: > On 24.11.18 11:26, Andy Simpkins wrote: > >> So, again: which of the two flavors is the one that benefits more of our > >> user base? > > > > BOTH are possible so why dictate only one? > > > > I would like to see OpenGLES

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
El sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2018 11:23:51 -03 bret curtis escribió: > Hello Lisandro! > > > Yes, that's a drawback we are not hiding. Applications needing Desktop > > OpenGL would be left out. But... > > Sorry, but this is just not acceptable. There has to be another way. > > > > If you say th

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Andy Simpkins
On 24/11/18 14:14, bret curtis wrote: >>> But even here in this place I have seen *a lot* of "cheap" arm64 boards. >>> Yes, >>> the RPI3[+] is ubiquitous. And having to render Open GL stuff by CPU is >>> precisely not the fastest thing around. >> >> "I have a Raspberry Pi (or similar mobile class

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hi Andy! El sábado, 24 de noviembre de 2018 07:26:34 -03 Andy Simpkins escribió: > On 24/11/2018 02:05, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > > Andy: explicitly CCing you because I think it answers part of a question > > you did but in another part of the thread. > > > > El viernes, 23 de

Bug#914527: dwarves: update package description

2018-11-24 Thread Holger Levsen
package: dwarves severity: minor x-debbugs-cc: Domenico Andreoli , debian-devel@lists.debian.org On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 03:28:37PM +0100, Domenico Andreoli wrote: > after some ~7 years of inactivty I've been able to put a new upstream > release of dwarves together. It's at https://salsa.d.o/de

Review of dwarves 1.12-1 (and sponsoring)

2018-11-24 Thread Domenico Andreoli
Hi all, after some ~7 years of inactivty I've been able to put a new upstream release of dwarves together. It's at https://salsa.d.o/debian/dwarves. It has some build reproducibility issue, I'll look at that later. I'll also go throught the open bugs, they are quite aged and deserve to be close

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
Hello Lisandro! > Yes, that's a drawback we are not hiding. Applications needing Desktop OpenGL > would be left out. But... > Sorry, but this is just not acceptable. There has to be another way. > > > If you say that arm64 has to be GLESv2 as well, then that is yet another > > arch that OpenMW c

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread bret curtis
> > But even here in this place I have seen *a lot* of "cheap" arm64 boards. > > Yes, > > the RPI3[+] is ubiquitous. And having to render Open GL stuff by CPU is > > precisely not the fastest thing around. > > "I have a Raspberry Pi (or similar mobile class system that > has migrated / is migrati

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 01:09:35PM +, Simon McVittie wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 23:12:19 -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer > wrote: > > El viernes, 23 de noviembre de 2018 09:23:29 -03 Dmitry Shachnev escribió: > > > I have an embedded Intel card right now :) > > > > Same here,

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Matthias Klose
On 24.11.18 11:26, Andy Simpkins wrote: >> So, again: which of the two flavors is the one that benefits more of our user >> base? > > BOTH are possible so why dictate only one? > > I would like to see OpenGLES available on all architectures > > I would like to see OpenGL available on all archite

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 23:12:19 -0300, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > El viernes, 23 de noviembre de 2018 09:23:29 -03 Dmitry Shachnev escribió: > > I have an embedded Intel card right now :) > > Same here, 10 years old machine with an embedded Intel video card. I don't > think I c

Re: Upcoming Qt switch to OpenGL ES on arm64

2018-11-24 Thread Andy Simpkins
On 24/11/2018 02:05, Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: Andy: explicitly CCing you because I think it answers part of a question you did but in another part of the thread. El viernes, 23 de noviembre de 2018 06:58:13 -03 Steve McIntyre escribió: On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 03:27:57AM +030