Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Sam Hartman writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > Ian Jackson writes: > > The latter point is because using dgit push is an ethical > > imperative, not because the two somehow have some deep > > technical linkage. IMO almost *any* tutorial bein

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, May 07, 2019 at 07:25:39PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > A maintainer who is currently using gbp pq can (and IMO generally > should) use `dgit push' to do their uploads, rather than dput/dupload. as a data point: I never really got my head around gbp, too many times it came in the way, did

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > as a data point: I never really got my head around gbp, too many times > it came in the way, did things I didnt expect to do (or couldnt easily > figure out what it did), so I basically (try to)

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 12:18:41PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I'm not sure what git branch format you are using. (Maybe you said it > earlier in this thread.) Packaging-only ? git-merge ? both. > You should use dgit for the benefit of users. See my other mail which > answers why Vcs-Git and

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Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/05/08 13:23, Holger Levsen wrote: >> You should use dgit for the benefit of users. See my other mail which >> answers why Vcs-Git and debcheckout is not enough. > > could you be so kind and provide a pointer, this thread is rather long > already? (Maybe this is also worth an FAQ entry som

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2019-05-08 Thread Mikhail f. Shiryaev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mikhail f. Shiryaev * Package name: golang-github-naegelejd-go-acl Version : 0.0~git20160113.f33f861-1 Upstream Author : Joseph Naegele * URL : https://github.com/naegelejd/go-acl * License : MIT Programming Lang: Go

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 08 May 2019 at 12:18:41 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Indeed, you yourself say you avoid gbp but for many packages, the > Vcs-Git header gives you a patches-unapplied format which requires[1] > gbp pq to switch to a patches-applied view before you build it. This step is not required: for 3.0

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Matthew Vernon
Scott Kitterman writes: > On May 7, 2019 8:50:57 PM UTC, Sam Hartman wrote: >>> "Ian" == Ian Jackson writes: >>Ian> The latter point is because using dgit push is an ethical >>Ian> imperative, not because the two somehow have some deep >> Ian> technical linkage. IMO almost *any*

Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Vipul
Hey there, I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet back to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages and fixing bugs. Since I'm using Debian for work purpose also so, I don't want to mess-up  with my system by installing unstable packages

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2019-05-08 Thread YunQiang Su
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Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 07 May 2019 at 19:25:39 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > What I am primarily advocating for in this thread is that maintainers > should choose `dgit push-source' over `dput' (where this is possible). > This is the only way for a maintainer to provide users with the git > history in a sensible fo

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 04 May 2019 at 21:10:34 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > So far I have gained the impression that > the kind of people who are using packaging-only git trees tend to be > very conservative, and very comfortable with .dsc/tarball/patch/quilt > based tools, and not really convinced of the usefulne

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Matthew Vernon writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > Scott Kitterman writes: > > For what it's worth, when you start calling me names (unethical) > > because I'm not using your shiny new toy, my immediate reaction is to > > decide to ignore furt

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 12:18:41PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > I'm not sure what git branch format you are using. (Maybe you said it > > earlier in this thread.) Packaging-only ? git-merge

Bug#928665: ITP: python-pybigwig -- read/write chromosomal sequence data in bigWig files

2019-05-08 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: python-pybigwig Version : 0.3.15 * URL : https://github.com/deeptools/pyBigWig * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : read/write chromosomal sequence data in bigWig fi

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 03:57:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > both. > For packaging-only, dgit does not properly support that. Do you have > the upstream source in git form too, and if so how do you combine > them ? Do you manipulate patches using quilt ? [1] hm/i'm sorry, I cannot really thi

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git [and 1 more messages]

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Holger Levsen writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > could you be so kind and provide a pointer, this thread is rather long > already? (Maybe this is also worth an FAQ entry somewhere..) Jonathan Carter writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure

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Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git [and 1 more messages]

2019-05-08 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 04:14:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > [Ian Jackson:] > > > > You should use dgit for the benefit of users. See my other mail which > > > > answers why Vcs-Git and debcheckout is not enough. > > > > > > could you be so kind and provide a pointer, this thread is rather

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > On Wed, 08 May 2019 at 12:18:41 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Indeed, you yourself say you avoid gbp but for many packages, the > > Vcs-Git header gives you a patches-unapplied format which req

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > On Tue, 07 May 2019 at 19:25:39 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > What I am primarily advocating for in this thread is that maintainers > > should choose `dgit push-source' over `dput' (where this

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Simon McVittie writes ("Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git"): > On Sat, 04 May 2019 at 21:10:34 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > So far I have gained the impression that > > the kind of people who are using packaging-only git trees tend to be > > very conserva

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
Vipul writes ("Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community"): > I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed > yet back to community. I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining > packages and fixing bugs. Since I'm using Debian for work purpose > also so, I don't

.deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
Hi! I've recently did some research on how can we improve the speed of unpacking packages. There's a lot of other stages that can be improved, but let's talk about the .deb format. First, the 0.939 format, as described in "man deb-old". While still being accepted by dpkg, it had been superseded

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Adam" == Adam Borowski writes: Adam> Hi! I've recently did some research on how can we improve the Adam> * there's no 10¹⁰ bytes (~9.31GB) limit While no package this Adam> big is in the archive _yet_ (max being 1⎖652⎖244⎖360 bytes), Adam> both storage sizes and software b

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:38:26PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: >... > So let's pick compressors to enable. For compression ratio, xz still wins > (at least among popular compressors). But there's a thing to say about > zstd: firefox.deb zstd -19 takes to unpack: > * 2.644s .xz, stock dpkg > * 2.5

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Xavier
Le 08/05/2019 à 19:38, Adam Borowski a écrit : > Hi! > I've recently did some research on how can we improve the speed of unpacking > packages. There's a lot of other stages that can be improved, but let's > talk about the .deb format. > > First, the 0.939 format, as described in "man deb-old".

Bug#928683: ITP: perl6-openssl -- OpenSSL bindings for Perl 6

2019-05-08 Thread Robert Lemmen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robert Lemmen * Package name: perl6-openssl Version : 0.1.22 Upstream Author : Filip Sergot and others * URL : https://github.com/sergot/openssl * License : MIT Programming Lang: Perl 6 Description : OpenSSL bind

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Adrian Bunk - 08.05.19, 21:45: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:38:26PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > >... > > > > So let's pick compressors to enable. For compression ratio, xz > > still wins (at least among popular compressors). But there's a > > thing to say about zstd: firefox.deb zstd -19 takes

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Ansgar
Adam Borowski writes: > I've recently did some research on how can we improve the speed of unpacking > packages. There's a lot of other stages that can be improved, but let's > talk about the .deb format. > > First, the 0.939 format, as described in "man deb-old". While still being > accepted by

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Ian Jackson
(adding debian-dpkg) Adam Borowski writes (".deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2"): > First, the 0.939 format, as described in "man deb-old". While still being > accepted by dpkg, it had been superseded before even the very first stable > release. Why? It has at least two upsides over

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2019-05-08 22:35:58 +0200 (+0200), Ansgar wrote: > Adam Borowski writes: > > I've recently did some research on how can we improve the speed of unpacking > > packages. There's a lot of other stages that can be improved, but let's > > talk about the .deb format. > > > > First, the 0.939 format,

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Ansgar
Jeremy Stanley writes: > On 2019-05-08 22:35:58 +0200 (+0200), Ansgar wrote: >> Switching to a different binary format will break various tools. If we >> want to do this, I wonder if we shouldn't take the chance to move away >> from tar? >> >> We have various applications that only want to extrac

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 10:45:21PM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 07:38:26PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > So let's pick compressors to enable. For compression ratio, xz still wins > > (at least among popular compressors). But there's a thing to say about > > zstd: firefox.

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 09:04:49PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > On 2019-05-08 22:35:58 +0200 (+0200), Ansgar wrote: > > Adam Borowski writes: > > > I've recently did some research on how can we improve the speed of > > > unpacking > > > packages. There's a lot of other stages that can be improv

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 10:35:58PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > Adam Borowski writes: > > I've recently did some research on how can we improve the speed of unpacking > > packages. There's a lot of other stages that can be improved, but let's > > talk about the .deb format. > > > > First, the 0.939 form

Bug#928690: ITP: libsmithlab -- low-level code collection for computational biology

2019-05-08 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller * Package name: libsmithlab * URL : https://github.com/smithlabcode/smithlab_cpp * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : low-level code collection for computational biology To be team-maintained o

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 1:38 AM Adam Borowski wrote: > Thus, even though we'd want to stick with xz for the official archive, speed > gains from zstd are so massive that it's tempting to add support for it, > at least for non-official uses, possibly also for common Build-Depends. Could we use cust

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 8, 2019 at 9:27 PM Vipul wrote: > I've been using Debian from couples of years but haven't contributed yet back > to community. There are a number of different ways to contribute to Debian: https://www.debian.org/intro/help > I want to contribute to Debian by maintaining packages a

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 07:37:55AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 1:38 AM Adam Borowski wrote: Thus, even though we'd want to stick with xz for the official archive, speed gains from zstd are so massive that it's tempting to add support for it, at least for non-official uses, po

Re: Preferred git branch structure when upstream moves from tarballs to git

2019-05-08 Thread Ben Finney
Ian Jackson writes: > So far I have gained the impression that the kind of people who are > using packaging-only git trees tend to be very conservative, and very > comfortable with .dsc/tarball/patch/quilt based tools, and not really > convinced of the usefulness of git. Let me counter that impr

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Emmanuel Arias
Hello VIpul, I was writing a serie of blog's entry [1] (on spanish) trying to  let for me on the future some data. Maybe it could be helpful for you. I have to write it on english version too and updated, because I was using a virtual machine, but now I was using chroot (that I think is better)

Re: Configure your PC to contribute to Debian community

2019-05-08 Thread Yao Wei
On Wed, May 08, 2019 at 10:22:18PM -0300, Emmanuel Arias wrote: > I was writing a serie of blog's entry [1] (on spanish) > trying to  let for me on the future some data. Maybe > it could be helpful for you. > > I have to write it on english version too and updated, > because I was using a virtual

Re: .deb format: let's use 0.939, zstd, drop bzip2

2019-05-08 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 12:02:26AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > We have various applications that only want to extract single members of > > the package (changelog, NEWS, copyright, ...); tar is a really bad > > format for such an operation. Other formats (zip, 7z, ...) are more > > suited for