Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-09 Thread Niels Thykier
Adam Borowski: > On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 09:46:37AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: >> [...] > >> As others have mentioned, I hope that Debian remains a project that >> makes it evermore welcoming to individuals > > Yeah but one of our core values is "we do not hide problems". I'd rather > lash out an

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-09 Thread Chris Lamb
Adam Borowski wrote: > > As others have mentioned, I hope that Debian remains a project that > > makes it evermore welcoming to individuals > > Yeah but one of our core values is "we do not hide problems". I'd rather > lash out and voice my gripes _with actionable ideas_ than to stay silent to >

Re: ZFS in Buster

2019-06-09 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 6/6/19 5:16 PM, Ondřej Surý wrote: > If we cannot make the ZoL in Buster safe for our users it needs to be removed > from the release My understanding is that the issue is only affecting the performance of the encryption part of ZFS, right? If so, I don't see why we should remove ZFS from Bust

Re: Bug#930219: ITP: node-dagre-layout - should other dagre users switch?

2019-06-09 Thread Rebecca N. Palmer
Changes from dagre to this fork are summarized at [0]. It looks like Gitlab use this fork because Mermaid does [1] and the fork author is a major Mermaid contributor [2]. A few packages currently use the original dagre(-d3), but none run its full build process: firefox/firefox-esr/thunderbi

Re: Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-09 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Osamu, On 2019-06-09 13:48, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Let's think in a bit different perspective. > > What is the outcome of "Deep Lerning". That's "knowledge". Don't mix everything into a single obscure word "knowledge". That things is not representable through programming language or mathematica

Bug#930265: ITP: node-rollup-plugin-invariant -- Rollup plugin to strip invariant(condition, message) strings in production

2019-06-09 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pirate Praveen X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Control: block 930262 by -1 * Package name : node-rollup-plugin-invariant Version : 0.5.6 Upstream Author : Ben Newman * URL : https://github.com/apollographql/invariant-packages * License : Exp

Re: Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, Let's think in a bit different perspective. What is the outcome of "Deep Lerning". That's "knowledge". If the dictionary of "knowledge" is expressed in a freely usable software format with free license, isn't it enough? If you want more for your package, that's fine. Please promote such p

Bug#930262: ITP: node-apollo-link -- Flexible, lightweight transport layer for GraphQL

2019-06-09 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pirate Praveen X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name : node-apollo-link Version : 1.2.11 Upstream Author : Evans Hauser * URL : https://github.com/apollographql/apollo-link#readme * License : Expat Programming Lang: JavaScript Des

Re: Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-09 Thread Mo Zhou
Hi Osamu, On 2019-06-09 08:28, Osamu Aoki wrote: > Although I understand the intent of "SemiFree" or "Tainted" (by Yao), I > don't think these are a good choice. We need to draw a line between > FREE(=main) and NON-FREE(non-free) as a organization. I think there are There is no such a line as a

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Jun 09, 2019 at 09:46:37AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > Adam Borowski wrote: > > This is about GUI appearance and ergonomy. [...] > > I also hate with a passion so-called "UX designers". Those are folks who > > created Windows 8's Metro tiles, lightgray-on-white "Material Design" flat > > u

Bug#930246: ITP: node-rollup-plugin-sourcemaps -- Rollup plugin for grabbing source maps from sourceMappingURLs

2019-06-09 Thread Pirate Praveen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Pirate Praveen X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name : node-rollup-plugin-sourcemaps Version : 0.4.2 Upstream Author : Max Davidson * URL : https://github.com/maxdavidson/rollup-plugin-sourcemaps#readme * License : Expat Programmin

Re: Debian, so ugly and unwieldy!

2019-06-09 Thread Chris Lamb
Adam Borowski wrote: > This is about GUI appearance and ergonomy. > > I'll concentrate at XFCE, as I consider GNOME3's UI a lost cause, thus I'd > find it hard to bring constructive arguments there. > > I also hate with a passion so-called "UX designers". Those are folks who > created Windows 8

Re: Concern for: A humble draft policy on "deep learning v.s. freedom"

2019-06-09 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi Mo, On Sat, Jun 08, 2019 at 10:07:13PM -0700, Mo Zhou wrote: > Hi Osamu, > > On 2019-06-08 18:43, Osamu Aoki wrote: > >> This draft is conservative and overkilling, and currently > >> only focus on software freedom. That's exactly where we > >> start, right? > > > > OK but it can't be where w