Re: Uninformative hyperlink in O: (package orphaning) bug reports

2019-07-08 Thread Michael Kesper
Hi Osamu, hi all, On 29.06.19 03:05, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:37:58AM +0200, Michael Kesper wrote: >> Maintaining a package requires time and skills. >> Please have a look at https://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers >> for getting started. >> >> [and intro-maintainers sho

Could we generate d/control instead of working with "assembly level code" directly (was: Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files)

2019-07-08 Thread Niels Thykier
Simon McVittie: > On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 at 19:23:39 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > [...] >> If the udeb stanzas in debian/control have "Build-Profiles: ", >> then debhelper will honour that when deciding which packages to build, >> so yes, anything built into debhelper should just work. > > Treating u

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 07:28:50PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Per my other reply, you may find that it isn't that painful after all > once you find the right approach. For instance, while a separate udeb > build pass does make > https://salsa.debian.org/ssh-team/openssh/blob/master/debian/rul

Re: Bits from the Release Team: ride like the wind, Bullseye!

2019-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jul 09, 2019 at 12:16:53AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jul 07, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > > > Q: I already did a binary upload, do I need to do a new (source-only) > > upload? > > A: Yes (preferably with other changes, not just a version bump). > Is there any good reason why we

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Jul 9, 2019 at 7:42 AM Colin Watson wrote: >A memory-safe language with good testing support and a good testing >culture would be great, though it does also need to work on every >Debian architecture, which IIRC Rust doesn't quite; we've kicked >around the idea of maybe a s

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.07.19 um 22:04 schrieb Moritz Mühlenhoff: > Theodore Ts'o schrieb: >> Back in the days of boot/root installation floppies, saving every last >> byte was clearly important. > > It's probably worth discussing/investigating whether udebs in general still > make sense for d-i in 2019? > > It w

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 10:04:06PM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Theodore Ts'o schrieb: > > Back in the days of boot/root installation floppies, saving every last > > byte was clearly important. > > It's probably worth discussing/investigating whether udebs in general still > make sense for d

Re: Bits from the Release Team: ride like the wind, Bullseye!

2019-07-08 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 07, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > Q: I already did a binary upload, do I need to do a new (source-only) > upload? > A: Yes (preferably with other changes, not just a version bump). Is there any good reason why we still do not have an interface to allow developers to self-service reques

Bug#931655: ITP: vokoscreen-ng -- easy to use screencast creator

2019-07-08 Thread Joao Eriberto Mota Filho
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joao Eriberto Mota Filho * Package name: vokoscreen-ng Version : 2.9.8 Upstream Author : Volker Kohaupt * URL : https://github.com/vkohaupt/vokoscreenNG * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang: C++ Description : easy

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Simon McVittie
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 at 19:23:39 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 01:25:32PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > How important is noudeb, and why is defined in the first place? > > I'm afraid memory has failed me in terms of why it was defined, other > than perhaps performance for p

Re: Bits from the Release Team: ride like the wind, Bullseye!

2019-07-08 Thread Matthias Klose
> No binary maintainer uploads for bullseye > = > > The release of buster also means the bullseye release cycle is about to begin. > From now on, we will no longer allow binaries uploaded by maintainers to > migrate to testing. This means that you will need

Re: mandatory source uploads

2019-07-08 Thread gregor herrmann
On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 11:57:45 +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > So if I understand correctly, I can just rebuild everything and do > source-only uploads, and the Debian infra will be smart enough to > understand how to build? Great, I'll try then! :) As long as you don't hit #865304 (taken from /topi

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Theodore Ts'o, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 14:10:13 -0400, a ecrit: > and it also avoids the double-compilation build time extension. (I > assume that's what you were referring to when you mentioned "avoid the > two-times-longer build time", right?) Yes. Samuel

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Theodore Ts'o schrieb: > Back in the days of boot/root installation floppies, saving every last > byte was clearly important. It's probably worth discussing/investigating whether udebs in general still make sense for d-i in 2019? It was a design choice made 15 years ago, but disk/network constra

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 07:28:50PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > P.S. If anyone thinks that increasing the size of the debian > > installer by 145k is unacceptable, please let me know now > > This is something you'd need to run

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 02:10:13PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 07:36:30PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Theodore Ts'o, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 13:25:32 -0400, a ecrit: > > > How important is noudeb, and why is defined in the first place? > > > > My usage of noudeb is mo

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 01:25:32PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > I'm the middle of an effort to simplify the debian/rules file for > e2fsprogs so that someday, maybe, I'll be able to convert it to use > dh. One of the things which I noticed while trying to rip things out > of debian/rules to make

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jul 08, 2019 at 07:36:30PM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > Theodore Ts'o, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 13:25:32 -0400, a ecrit: > > How important is noudeb, and why is defined in the first place? > > My usage of noudeb is mostly to avoid the two-times-longer build time > It used to

Re: The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello, Theodore Ts'o, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 13:25:32 -0400, a ecrit: > How important is noudeb, and why is defined in the first place? My usage of noudeb is mostly to avoid the two-times-longer build time Samuel

The noudeb build profile and dh-only rules files

2019-07-08 Thread Theodore Ts'o
I'm the middle of an effort to simplify the debian/rules file for e2fsprogs so that someday, maybe, I'll be able to convert it to use dh. One of the things which I noticed while trying to rip things out of debian/rules to make the dh conversion easier (possible?) was the support for noudeb. How i

Bug#931643: ITP: ipmctl -- utility for configuring and managing Intel Optane DC persistent memory modules

2019-07-08 Thread Adam Borowski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Adam Borowski * Package name: ipmctl Version : v01.00.00.3455 Upstream Author : Intel * URL : https://github.com/intel/ipmctl * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : utility for configuring and managing

Re: Backports needed for Firefox/Thunderbird ESR 68 in Stretch

2019-07-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 02.07.19 22:45, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: Hi, > ESR 68 will require an updated Rust/Cargo toolchain and build dependencies not > present in Stretch (nodejs 8, llvm-toolchain-7, cbindgen and maybe more). > Stretch was already updated wrt Rust/Cargo for ESR 60, so there's at least no > requiremen

NEW queue and src-only uploads [Re: Bits from the Release Team: ride like the wind, Bullseye!]

2019-07-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 07.07.19 um 15:43 schrieb Ben Hutchings: > On Sun, 2019-07-07 at 02:47 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote: > [...] >> No binary maintainer uploads for bullseye >> = >> >> The release of buster also means the bullseye release cycle is about to >> begin. >> Fr

Re: mandatory source uploads

2019-07-08 Thread Johannes Schauer
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2019-07-08 12:01:01) > Thomas Goirand, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 11:57:45 +0200, a ecrit: > > So if I understand correctly, I can just rebuild everything and do > > source-only uploads, and the Debian infra will be smart enough to > > understand how to build? > Yes. Only the d

Re: mandatory source uploads (was: Bits from the Release Team: ride like the wind, Bullseye!)

2019-07-08 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Am Mo., 8. Juli 2019 um 09:14 Uhr schrieb Thomas Goirand : > > On 7/8/19 12:34 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > As long as your build-depends are properly versioned, why can't you just > > upload all the source and let wanna-build sort it out? > > > > Scott K > > This means that I have to baby-sit th

Re: mandatory source uploads

2019-07-08 Thread Samuel Thibault
Thomas Goirand, le lun. 08 juil. 2019 11:57:45 +0200, a ecrit: > So if I understand correctly, I can just rebuild everything and do > source-only uploads, and the Debian infra will be smart enough to > understand how to build? Yes. Only the dependency loops pose problem. Samuel

Re: mandatory source uploads

2019-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 7/8/19 9:38 AM, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2019-07-08 09:14, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 7/8/19 12:34 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >>> As long as your build-depends are properly versioned, why can't you just >>> upload all the source and let wanna-build sort it out? > [...] >> This means that I have

Re: mandatory source uploads

2019-07-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2019-07-08 09:14, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 7/8/19 12:34 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: As long as your build-depends are properly versioned, why can't you just upload all the source and let wanna-build sort it out? [...] This means that I have to baby-sit the Debian archive and upload everythi

Re: mandatory source uploads (was: Bits from the Release Team: ride like the wind, Bullseye!)

2019-07-08 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 7/8/19 12:34 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > As long as your build-depends are properly versioned, why can't you just > upload all the source and let wanna-build sort it out? > > Scott K This means that I have to baby-sit the Debian archive and upload everything in the correct order, waiting for