Bug#947924: ITP: haskell-bytestring -- Fast, compact, strict and lazy byte strings with a list interface

2020-01-01 Thread Mike Gabriel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mike Gabriel * Package name: haskell-bytestring Version : 0.10.10.0 Upstream Author : Duncan Coutts * URL : https://hackage.haskell.org/package/bytestring * License : BSD-3 Programming Lang: Haskell Description :

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 08:09:09PM +0100, Daniel Leidert wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 01.01.2020, 11:19 -0600 schrieb John Hasler: > > andrew.mcglashan wrote: > > > ...it is very limited to a small group of Debian users known > > > collectively as DDs... > > It is limited to the people who actually d

Re: Appstream + Gnome

2020-01-01 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 at 13:17:34 +0100, Jeff wrote: > One of my packages is an application and ships a .desktop file and > appstream xml. The tracker.debian.org page for the package complained > that the ID for package didn't follow the {tld}.{vendor}.{product} > scheme[1], so I modified so that it

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread John Hasler
Daniel writes: > Even if users don't have voting rights we bound ourselves to them by > the Debian Social Contract: "4. Our priorities are our users and free > software [..]" to which all DDs agreed (myself included). So there > must be ways for our users to participate in the decision making. As

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 02:09:46PM -0500, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > [stuff] I just saw Sam's message after I sent my own. I agree that this discussion has gone past the point where it is useful. Apologies for the noise. -- Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 04:51:14AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Hi, > > On 2/1/20 4:19 am, John Hasler wrote: > > andrew.mcglashan wrote: > >> ...it is very limited to a small group of Debian users known > >> collectively as DDs... > > > > It is limited to the people who actually do the work.

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Mittwoch, den 01.01.2020, 11:19 -0600 schrieb John Hasler: > andrew.mcglashan wrote: > > ...it is very limited to a small group of Debian users known > > collectively as DDs... > > It is limited to the people who actually do the work. Why should the > fact that you chose to download, install,

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Sam Hartman
Dear Andrew: I appreciate that you are hurt and frustrated. We hear your hurt and frustration. Discussions of the sort of broad decision making processes within the Debian Project you are talking about are off-topic for the debian-devel mailing lists. There are places where you could bring up the

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 2/1/20 4:47 am, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 08:25:41PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: >> And a propaganderous push, just accept it and STFU, systemd won, >> against all odds, just like other crazy political results around >

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 2/1/20 4:19 am, John Hasler wrote: > andrew.mcglashan wrote: >> ...it is very limited to a small group of Debian users known >> collectively as DDs... > > It is limited to the people who actually do the work. Why should > the fact that you c

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Holger Levsen
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 08:25:41PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > And a propaganderous push, just accept it and STFU, systemd won, against > all odds, just like other crazy political results around the world. right, systemd won, because of politics. LOLWUT, thanks for making me laugh. thank god

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread John Hasler
andrew.mcglashan wrote: > ...it is very limited to a small group of Debian users known > collectively as DDs... It is limited to the people who actually do the work. Why should the fact that you chose to download, install, and use some software that someone wrote and generously made available to

Re: Help needed: conflicting interests between Salsa admins and Salsa users (Re: Git Packaging Round 2: When to Salsa)

2020-01-01 Thread Otto Kekäläinen
Hello! ti 31. jouluk. 2019 klo 14.55 Alexander Wirt (formo...@debian.org) kirjoitti: > On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > Also, if resources are an issue: I've offered several times to see if I > > can get some k8s resources for gitlab runners, but never got a reply. > > Not even a no.

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Ondřej Surý
Martin, I didn’t say anybody should “shut up”, I said that if one is not able to respond with kindness and without a rage to a original message that asks for compassion and kindness, it would be better to not do so. Perhaps, write a separate email talking about how one feels or maybe just wait

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Philipp Kern
> On 1/1/20 9:46 pm, Martin Steigerwald wrote: >> I agree with Andrew that at least some of the options in the GR >> were not about diversity or inclusion, but about exclusion and the >> opposite of diversity. I pointed it out *clearly* before hand, but >> that was all I could do. > > Yes, but it'

Re: Appstream + Gnome

2020-01-01 Thread Mattia Rizzolo
On Wed, Jan 01, 2020 at 01:17:34PM +0100, Jeff wrote: > One of my packages is an application and ships a .desktop file and > appstream xml. The tracker.debian.org page for the package complained > that the ID for package didn't follow the {tld}.{vendor}.{product} > scheme[1], so I modified so that

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Andrej, dear Andrew, Andrej Shadura - 01.01.20, 13:02:00 CET: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Andrew McGlashan > > wrote: > > reasonable stakeholders, it is very limited to a small group of > > Debian users known collectively as DDs .. the current "gods" of > > Debian whom have ultimate powe

Appstream + Gnome

2020-01-01 Thread Jeff
Firstly - apologies for sending this to -devel. Please point me at a better place to ask the question if there is one. One of my packages is an application and ships a .desktop file and appstream xml. The tracker.debian.org page for the package complained that the ID for package didn't follow the

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/1/20 11:02 pm, Andrej Shadura wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Andrew McGlashan > wrote: >> reasonable stakeholders, it is very limited to a small group of >> Debian users known collectively as DDs .. the current "gods" of >> Debian whom

Bug#947877: ITP: python-gmusicapi -- Unofficial API for Google Play Music

2020-01-01 Thread Stein Magnus Jodal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stein Magnus Jodal * Package name: python-gmusicapi Version : 12.1.1 Upstream Author : Simon Weber * URL : https://github.com/simon-weber/gmusicapi * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description :

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, On 1/1/20 9:46 pm, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > I agree with Andrew that at least some of the options in the GR > were not about diversity or inclusion, but about exclusion and the > opposite of diversity. I pointed it out *clearly* before hand,

Bug#947876: ITP: python-gpsoauth -- Client library for Google Play Services OAuth

2020-01-01 Thread Stein Magnus Jodal
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stein Magnus Jodal * Package name: python-gpsoauth Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : Simon Weber * URL : https://github.com/simon-weber/gpsoauth * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Client libra

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Ondřej, Ondřej Surý - 01.01.20, 09:39:35 CET: > Andrew, > > look at the subject, then look at what you wrote. If you can’t find > enough kindness in the situation and you are angry then it might be > better to not write anything at all. If one outcome of the GR is to ask people to shut up…

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
On 1/1/20 8:23 pm, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > Sorry, I don't believe the premise in the subject line, it doesn't seem > at all genuine to me; it is more like F you. And a propaganderous push, just accept it and STFU, systemd won, against all odds, just like other crazy political results around t

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Sorry, I don't believe the premise in the subject line, it doesn't seem at all genuine to me; it is more like F you.

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Ondřej Surý
Andrew, look at the subject, then look at what you wrote. If you can’t find enough kindness in the situation and you are angry then it might be better to not write anything at all. Let me quote Neil Gaiman from his New Year’s Eve blogpost http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2019/12/a-new-years-thoug

Re: Be nice to your fellow Debian colleagues

2020-01-01 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 1/1/20 1:57 am, Aron Xu wrote: > Some moments I felt quite heart broken to see Debian is at some > level of risk that the project rarely faced before. We might hold > different opinions, techinical or perceptional, such diversity is a > strength