Re: Q: systemd-timer vs cron

2022-03-11 Thread Paul Wise
Hideki Yamane wrote: > Is there any suggestion or guideline for pacakges that contain > both systemd-timer unit setting and cronjob? Don't they conflict > or not Do what apt does; make the cron job exit successfully without doing anything when run on systemd, move most of what is being run into a

Re: Q: systemd-timer vs cron

2022-03-11 Thread Andreas Metzler
On 2022-03-12 Hideki Yamane wrote: > Is there any suggestion or guideline for pacakges that contain > both systemd-timer unit setting and cronjob? Don't they conflict > or not Hello, You want to skip running the cronjob on systems with systemd as init systems. e.g. exim's daily cronjob works

Q: systemd-timer vs cron

2022-03-11 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, Is there any suggestion or guideline for pacakges that contain both systemd-timer unit setting and cronjob? Don't they conflict or not -- Regards, Hideki Yamane henrich @ debian.org/iijmio-mail.jp

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-11 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 1:16 PM Marc Haber wrote: > > wishlist bug for a lintian check. Implemented in Lintian, and pending for the next release: https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/commit/66ea726de5f34cf693b7d01a297f495abf650588 Thank you, everyone, for your comments! Kind re

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 17:38:20 -0800, Noah Meyerhans wrote: >+1 to --disabled-login setting the shell to /usr/sbin/nologin with >documentation being updated to reflect this. I'd suggest a default >behavior of a password of '*', with the ability to override it and >prompt for a real password with a

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:45:50 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: >I don't have a really strong preference either way. Maybe carry a patch >until just before freeze to bubble stuff up during testing? Maybe allow >an environment variable to override (either way?) to facilitate testing? >The problem is th

Re: adduser: disabling passwords, disabling logins

2022-03-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 21:25:38 +, Simon McVittie wrote: > usermod: unlocking the user's password would result in a passwordless > account. > You should set a password with usermod -p to unlock this user's password. So I can assume that usermod -p will also unlock a previously locked account?

Re: systemd-sysusers [Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser]

2022-03-11 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 11.03.22 um 15:37 schrieb Simon McVittie: and the equivalent if we were relying on sysusers would be this: install flatpak /usr/lib/sysusers.d/flatpak.conf is created postinst or trigger invokes systemd-sysusers An important distinction is that this postinst can be g

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:33:00PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 17:29:01 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 12:29:43PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: I don't think it makes sense to move toward 0700 home directories and to loosen the umask for usergroups. Those are

Re: systemd-sysusers [Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser]

2022-03-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Mar 11, Simon Richter wrote: > We currently don't have a good mechanism for leaving configuration behind on > purge, which we've historically done with user accounts to avoid reuse of > UIDs that may own resources, so we'd still have to create the declarations > from a postinst. While this is

Bug#1007119: ITP: lsp-treemacs -- treemacs integration for Emacs LSP

2022-03-11 Thread Thomas Koch
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Koch X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, tho...@koch.ro, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: lsp-treemacs Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Ivan Yonchovski * URL

Re: systemd-sysusers [Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser]

2022-03-11 Thread Simon McVittie
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 at 12:08:27 +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > On 3/10/22 8:59 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > > have you considered a more declarative approach as provided by > > systemd-sysusers (8)? > > We currently don't have a good mechanism for leaving configuration behind on > purge, which we've

Bug#1007113: ITP: emacs-request -- Compatibility layer for URL request in Emacs

2022-03-11 Thread Thomas Koch
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Koch X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, tho...@koch.ro, debian-emac...@lists.debian.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: emacs-request Version : 0.3.3 Upstream Author : Takafumi Arakaki * URL

Re: systemd-sysusers [Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser]

2022-03-11 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On 3/10/22 8:59 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: have you considered a more declarative approach as provided by systemd-sysusers (8)? We currently don't have a good mechanism for leaving configuration behind on purge, which we've historically done with user accounts to avoid reuse of UIDs that

Bug#1007108: ITP: qpwgraph -- User interface for controlling the PipeWire Graph

2022-03-11 Thread Christopher Obbard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christopher Obbard X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: qpwgraph Version : 0.2.2 Upstream Author : Rui Nuno Capela * URL : https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/rncbc/qpwgraph * License : GPL-2+ Program

Bug#1007107: ITP: pytz-deprecation-shim -- Shims to help you safely remove pytz

2022-03-11 Thread Edward Betts
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Edward Betts X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org * Package name: pytz-deprecation-shim Version : 0.1.0.post0 Upstream Author : Paul Ganssle * URL : https://github.com/pganssle/pytz-depreca

Re: systemd-sysusers [Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser]

2022-03-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 20:59:50 +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: >have you considered a more declarative approach as provided by >systemd-sysusers (8)? No. This thread is about evolving adduser. Not getting rid of it. 514 packages in Debian match "adduser.*--system". Feel free to offer a declarative th

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-11 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 13:17:26 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: >On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 06:37:58AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 00:04:38 +0100, Ansgar wrote: >> >On Wed, 2022-03-09 at 17:29 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: >> >> Those are actually unrelated--the big reason for the more p

Bug#1007104: ITP: odr-dabmod -- ODR-DabMod is a DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) modulator compliant to ETSI EN 300 401

2022-03-11 Thread Robin Alexander
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Robin Alexander X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: odr-dabmod Version : 2.5.0 Upstream Author : Matthias P. Braendli * URL : https://www.opendigitalradio.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: