Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Nicholas Guriev
On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 21:01:22 +0200 Bartosz Fenski wrote: > I created one > > https://t.me/debian_devel > > Of course I'm willing to give admin access to it to whoever we decide is > correct person / group to cover that. You created broadcasting channel. Only you and admins can post there. sign

Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

2022-07-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 05:15:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Available in the archive yes, installed by default no way. That makes this current thread mostly moot, as when not installed by default (or a metapackage) you don't need any particular implementation to be blessed. I think the origi

Bug#1015760: ITP: eyes17-manuals -- Eyes17 User Manuals

2022-07-20 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Georges Khaznadar X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: eyes17-manuals Version : 5.0 Upstream Author : jithin bp * URL : https://github.com/expeyes/expeyes-programs * License : GPL-3.0+ Programmin

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Stefan Kropp
On Mi, 2022-07-20 15:39:40, Pirate Praveen wrote: > On Tue, Jul 19 2022 at 09:01:22 PM +02:00:00 +02:00:00, Bartosz Fenski > wrote: > > Hey folks. > > > > Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of > > communication? > > > > I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client an

Bug#1015757: ITP: python-aio-pika -- AMQP client designed for asyncio and humans

2022-07-20 Thread Guilherme de Paula Xavier Segundo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guilherme de Paula Xavier Segundo X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, guilherme@gmail.com * Package name: python-aio-pika Version : 8.0.3 Upstream Author : Dmitry Orlov * URL : https://github.com/mosquito/aio-pika *

Re: how about matrix channel

2022-07-20 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
The Signal client for desktop is a really bad example of free software. It does techically have a free license (or better say a jungle of components with various free licenses), but it is almost impossible to build it yourself. There is a reason why Debian does not have its own builds. Even the Fl

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-20 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Andrey" == Andrey Rahmatullin writes: Andrey> More sensible than not filing it? This defeats both Andrey> purposes of an ITP: getting it discussed and working as a Andrey> mutex for people who are thinking about packaging the same Andrey> software. Are there other purposes?

Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

2022-07-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 05:43:35PM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: > > "Guillem" == Guillem Jover writes: > Guillem> Hi! There's been talk about switching away from > Guillem> netkit-telnet and netkit-telnetd as the default > Guillem> implementations for some time now, and replacing the

Re: how about matrix channel

2022-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 09:04:59PM +0100 schrieb Wookey: > > Matrix please. It's free software all the way through. We can run our > own server. Not-mobile-phones are 1st class clients. This not-mobile-phone issue is very important for me. > Signal is presumably OK if you run your own back-end,

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Andreas Tille
Am Tue, Jul 19, 2022 at 09:33:10PM +0200 schrieb Michael Biebl: > > I switched to Matrix (and its IRC bridge) as I no longer wanted to run an > IRC bouncer. > It works reasonably well. > > Using a "native" debian/debian-devel room would be an alternative I'd prefer > over a Telegram channel. Sin

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Geert Stappers
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 04:40:01PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:09:57AM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > I'd try to stay closer to FOSS decentralized solution like Mattermost or > > Rocket Chat (not sure how and if it evolved to the point of being > > usable).

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Wed, Jul 20 2022 at 03:39:40 PM +02:00:00 +02:00:00, Pirate Praveen wrote: On Tue, Jul 19 2022 at 09:01:22 PM +02:00:00 +02:00:00, Bartosz Fenski wrote: Hey folks. Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of communication? I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Pirate Praveen
On Tue, Jul 19 2022 at 09:01:22 PM +02:00:00 +02:00:00, Bartosz Fenski wrote: Hey folks. Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of communication? I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easi

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:09:57AM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > I'd try to stay closer to FOSS decentralized solution like Mattermost or > Rocket Chat (not sure how and if it evolved to the point of being > usable). Shouldn't this have gone to -curiosa instead? -- WBR, wRAR signature.as

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 12:37:25PM +0200, Rand Pritelrohm wrote: > You can also keep a session open if you have a small SOC/board around > (screen tmux are her for that) without BNC/ZNC honeypot things. Seriously. > No need for those fancy, bloated, full of javascript modern things > blinking like

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Rand Pritelrohm
Hi Stephan, Totally agree! Moreover, also IMHO, IRC is very light, logs are in plain text which can be easily parsed. You can have very light clients (terminal, emacs etc.). You can also keep a session open if you have a small SOC/board around (screen tmux are her for that) without BNC/ZNC honeyp

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Bartosz Fenski wrote on 19/07/2022 at 21:01:22+0200: > Hey folks. > > Anyone interested in switching to some more modern channels of > communication? > > I'm tired of keeping VPS just to have IRC client and to be honest I > think modern solutions like Telegram are simply easier and much more > p

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Nilesh Patra
On 7/20/22 2:35 PM, Stephan Verbücheln wrote: IMHO, a (official) communcation channel for a project like Debian has two requirements which are not met by Telegram: 1. Infrastructure should be controlled by the project. 2. Protocols should be standardized and universal. Ideally, users should have

Re: how about telegram channel

2022-07-20 Thread Stephan Verbücheln
IMHO, a (official) communcation channel for a project like Debian has two requirements which are not met by Telegram: 1. Infrastructure should be controlled by the project. 2. Protocols should be standardized and universal. Ideally, users should have free choice of their clients for various platfo

Re: Bug#1014908: ITP: gender-guesser -- Guess the gender from first name

2022-07-20 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Philip (2022.07.19_20:51:36_+) > > In other words, if you don't pick a culture, the _global_ dataset (ie, the > > default one) must not assume either. It takes a lot of work to prepare > > such a database, that's why this package is good to have. > > What exactly is it supposed to be good

DebConf22: Fixing the firmware mess (was: Re: how about telegram channel)

2022-07-20 Thread Ansgar
Hi, On Wed, 2022-07-20 at 07:40 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > It would also be simply easier and much more practical nowadays to > ship an official installer that allows installation on modern hardware > without hiding our head away in "we're fully free, but sadly we dont > run on modern hardware unl