On Jul 09, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Just tried to point out that automatic conversion will be hard. And
And I believe that nobody argued to do that.
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On Jul 09, Simon Richter wrote:
> For a server installation, I absolutely need the option to configure a
> static IP from d-i text mode interface or a preseed file, and this
> configuration to be taken over into the installed system.
I do not understand why you are explaining this as if it were s
Matthias Urlichs writes:
> On 09.07.24 12:27, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> Run user scripts on up/down events. That's a huge blank spot in
>> systemd-networkd. And by design, so it's really not fixable.
>
> Well, I've been apt-purging ifupdown for almost a decade by now and
> didn't yet miss any of it.
Hi,
On 7/9/24 23:01, Luca Boccassi wrote:
As per smcv's point, if you need to manually write a static
configuration then you can also install your favourite tool to use it.
This is not the default case - the default case is "I have ethernet
and/or wifi and I want DHCP v4+v6 on anything that can
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On 09.07.24 12:27, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Run user scripts on up/down events. That's a huge blank spot in
systemd-networkd. And by design, so it's really not fixable.
Well, I've been apt-purging ifupdown for almost a decade by now and
didn't yet miss any of it.
You can think whether that scrip
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 at 16:21:16 +0200, Ansgar 🙀 wrote:
> On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 22:44 +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
> > I believe NM does not have a fixed configuration format, but only a dbus
> > API.
>
> It's perfectly fine to edit configuration files for NM manually, see
> man:nm-settings-keyfile
Hi Simon,
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 22:44 +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
> I believe NM does not have a fixed configuration format, but only a dbus
> API.
It's perfectly fine to edit configuration files for NM manually, see
man:nm-settings-keyfile(5).
> Our best bet there would be a firstboot unit,
On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 at 14:44, Simon Richter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 7/9/24 17:57, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
>
> >> Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the
> >> default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
>
> > Well, here's a heretical thought: why don't we do that anyway, at leas
Hi,
On 7/9/24 17:57, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the
default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
Well, here's a heretical thought: why don't we do that anyway, at least
for new installations?
Both are overly complex for a static-IP-onl
On Tue, 2024-07-09 at 14:23 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Phil Wyett wrote on 09/07/2024 at 11:40:32+0200:
>
> > On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 13:20 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > > On 17283 March 1977, Soren Stoutner wrote:
> > >
> > > > P.S. Based on Phil’s work on Mentors and my
Hello,
Phil Wyett wrote on 09/07/2024 at 11:40:32+0200:
> On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 13:20 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
>> On 17283 March 1977, Soren Stoutner wrote:
>>
>> > P.S. Based on Phil’s work on Mentors and my interactions with him, I
>> > have
>> > advocated for him to become a Debian Dev
Hi Martin,
On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 02:25:02PM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > > I just had a look at ifupdown-ng. The /etc/network/interface syntax
> > > is not a drop-in replacement for ifupdown. That's a big no-no. Those
> > > "use dhcp" have to go.
> >
> > Not reading the documentation ca
ti 9. heinäk. 2024 klo 11.58 Daniel Gröber (d...@darkboxed.org) kirjoitti:
> On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 09:26:50AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> > su 7. heinäk. 2024 klo 16.56 Daniel Gröber (d...@darkboxed.org) kirjoitti:
> > > For me the reason to work on ifupdown-ng is that it has a better core
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 at 12:27:58 +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> Matthias Urlichs writes:
> > Somebody could even write a converter. Shouldn't be that difficult,
> > AFAIK there's nothing ifupdown can do that systemd[-networkd] can't.
>
> Run user scripts on up/down events. That's a huge blank spot in
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Matthias Urlichs writes:
>> Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the
>> default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
>
> Well, here's a heretical thought: why don't we do that anyway, at
> least for new installations?
>
> Somebody could even write a converter. Shouldn't be th
On Tue, 09 Jul 2024 at 10:57:39 +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the
> default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
>
> Well, here's a heretical thought: why don't we do that anyway, at least for
> new
> installations?
To some ext
Hello,
Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the
default to NM and/or systemd-networkd.
Well, here's a heretical thought: why don't we do that anyway, at least
for new installations?
Somebody could even write a converter. Shouldn't be that difficult,
AFAIK there's
On Sun, 2024-07-07 at 13:20 +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 17283 March 1977, Soren Stoutner wrote:
>
> > P.S. Based on Phil’s work on Mentors and my interactions with him, I
> > have
> > advocated for him to become a Debian Developer, uploading. I think
> > his
> > contributions to Debian
Hi Santiago,
On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 12:23:16PM -0300, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote:
> > > Santiago, how do you feel about ifupdown's future maintainability and
> > > feature development? I honestly never looked into why people started
> > > writing ifupdown replacements. I had my own gripes with i
Hi Martin,
On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 09:26:50AM +0300, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> su 7. heinäk. 2024 klo 16.56 Daniel Gröber (d...@darkboxed.org) kirjoitti:
> > For me the reason to work on ifupdown-ng is that it has a better core
> > design, clean&modern code, an active upstream community, a ***te
On Jul 09, Martin-Éric Racine wrote:
> I just had a look at ifupdown-ng. The /etc/network/interface syntax
> is not a drop-in replacement for ifupdown. That's a big no-no. Those
> "use dhcp" have to go.
Agreed: either it's drop-in compatible or we may as well switch the
default to NM and/or sys
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