Re: Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-30 Thread Alexandre Rebert
> while the coverage is still tiny, there is an effort to collect contact > addresses listed in the debian/upstream file in the VCS where our source > packages are maintained. > > http://upstream-metadata.debian.net/table/contact > > In some cases, it is a valid email address. Perhaps you can

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
> I do not think that you should try to implement this immediately but > from a Debian Maintainers point of view we now could present a case > where it makes perfectly sense to use DEP5 formated copyright files and > if we try to do this more strictly future tests could profit from it. For our pur

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Andreas Tille wrote: > The Debian Med team was flooded by about 50 mails which is hard to cope > in two weeks. You shouldn't have received that many emails. If we decide to report more bugs in the future (depending on the reactions from the community), we will mak

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Aron Xu wrote: > I wonder whether you have checked where the crash is caused, you have > sent several mails to me for every binary in your test run, but in > dmesg.txt you provided all of them are from the very same library. > This will cause lots of duplicates, an

Re: Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi > I wished the respective report would have been sent to the upstream > developers, > not to Debian. We could have been a second resort when upstream does not > react to the reports (not unlikely, admittedly). Now, the Debian maintainer > sees the findings two weeks before the bug is made publ

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
> One such crash was reported on a small fluxbox tool to be manually run, > which used $HOME blindly. When it ran, it segfaulted, which is a bug, > yes. > > However, it's not security, and to see the bug tagged 'security' was > troubling - what oversight do you have to prevent the security team to

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Paul Wise wrote: > BTW, the mails you have been sending with links to the crashes have > been going to publicly archived lists, not sure if you meant for that > to happen though? I realize only now that many emails (about 20% in our case), that are listed as pack

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, > I understand. But two weeks might be a bit too short for the majority > of those crashes. Many upstream authors don't get paid for working on > their software. I first want to clarify the purpose of the two-week delay to make sure we are on the same page.We do not expect upstream developers

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > From Ubuntu point of view, we'd also be interested in a similar > analysis. Unlike Debian we provide automatically generated packages > with debug symbols. > Similar to debian, we would most interested for development series to > be t

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Marc Haber wrote: > Will you also check Debian unstable? It is much easier to have a > package in unstable fixed, and I suspect that not every crash you find > will be a security relevant one. We actually already did :) We re-ran all the crashes on debian un

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
ier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Hi > > Le mardi, 25 juin 2013 07.28:10, Alexandre Rebert a écrit : >> I am a security researcher at Carnegie Mellon University, and my team >> has found thousands of crashes in binaries downloaded from debian >> wheeze packages. Af

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, Thanks for all the feedback and comments. I tried to address all them below. > The crash.sh script seems to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Is that actually > needed? I'd prefer something that doesn't need something like that, > since being able to crash apps if you load a broken library isn't very >

Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-24 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, I am a security researcher at Carnegie Mellon University, and my team has found thousands of crashes in binaries downloaded from debian wheeze packages. After contacting ow...@bugs.debian.org, Don Armstrong advised us to contact you before submitting ~1.2K bug reports to the Debian BTS using m