Re: Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-30 Thread Alexandre Rebert
while the coverage is still tiny, there is an effort to collect contact addresses listed in the debian/upstream file in the VCS where our source packages are maintained. http://upstream-metadata.debian.net/table/contact In some cases, it is a valid email address. Perhaps you can give

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Paul Wise p...@debian.org wrote: BTW, the mails you have been sending with links to the crashes have been going to publicly archived lists, not sure if you meant for that to happen though? I realize only now that many emails (about 20% in our case), that are

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
One such crash was reported on a small fluxbox tool to be manually run, which used $HOME blindly. When it ran, it segfaulted, which is a bug, yes. However, it's not security, and to see the bug tagged 'security' was troubling - what oversight do you have to prevent the security team to get

Re: Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi I wished the respective report would have been sent to the upstream developers, not to Debian. We could have been a second resort when upstream does not react to the reports (not unlikely, admittedly). Now, the Debian maintainer sees the findings two weeks before the bug is made public.

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Aron Xu happyaron...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder whether you have checked where the crash is caused, you have sent several mails to me for every binary in your test run, but in dmesg.txt you provided all of them are from the very same library. This will cause

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: The Debian Med team was flooded by about 50 mails which is hard to cope in two weeks. You shouldn't have received that many emails. If we decide to report more bugs in the future (depending on the reactions from the

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-27 Thread Alexandre Rebert
I do not think that you should try to implement this immediately but from a Debian Maintainers point of view we now could present a case where it makes perfectly sense to use DEP5 formated copyright files and if we try to do this more strictly future tests could profit from it. For our

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, Thanks for all the feedback and comments. I tried to address all them below. The crash.sh script seems to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH. Is that actually needed? I'd prefer something that doesn't need something like that, since being able to crash apps if you load a broken library isn't very

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
...@debian.org wrote: Hi Le mardi, 25 juin 2013 07.28:10, Alexandre Rebert a écrit : I am a security researcher at Carnegie Mellon University, and my team has found thousands of crashes in binaries downloaded from debian wheeze packages. After contacting ow...@bugs.debian.org, Don Armstrong

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de wrote: Will you also check Debian unstable? It is much easier to have a package in unstable fixed, and I suspect that not every crash you find will be a security relevant one. We actually already did :) We re-ran

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com wrote: From Ubuntu point of view, we'd also be interested in a similar analysis. Unlike Debian we provide automatically generated packages with debug symbols. Similar to debian, we would most interested for

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-25 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, I understand. But two weeks might be a bit too short for the majority of those crashes. Many upstream authors don't get paid for working on their software. I first want to clarify the purpose of the two-week delay to make sure we are on the same page.We do not expect upstream developers

Reporting 1.2K crashes

2013-06-24 Thread Alexandre Rebert
Hi, I am a security researcher at Carnegie Mellon University, and my team has found thousands of crashes in binaries downloaded from debian wheeze packages. After contacting ow...@bugs.debian.org, Don Armstrong advised us to contact you before submitting ~1.2K bug reports to the Debian BTS using