Re: thank you for your support

2005-04-11 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Michael Banck a écrit : It is clear that Debian will have to change in order to face the issues it is confronted with, and I think the Vancouver proposal is a good starting point. It might need some fine-tuning, but I believe everybody is aware of that by now, so just screaming at the original pro

Re: Security support for tier-2

2005-03-15 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Frank Küster a écrit : There is one problem: These porters would need a debian.org machine to host their archive, and this puts again some workload on the ftpmasters and system admins. From the Vancouver proposal it seemed to me that it was not planned to provide such ressources. If there is more

Re: [Proposal] Upgrade newraff hardware

2005-03-15 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Bill Allombert a écrit : Hello Debian developers, It had come several times that one major problem is the load of wanna-build connection on newraff, and the time and memory it take to run the testing scripts. Debian certainly has enough goodwill to get a donation of a couple of really fast box wi

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Frank Küster a écrit : I think Sven was talking about *his* proposal for an alternative handling of SCC architectures, giving them a chance to be released. Oops sorry. I am not really against, but we should before try to address the real problems. What about partial mirroring to address space pro

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Sven Luther a écrit : On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 02:38:01PM +0100, Aurélien Jarno wrote: Sven Luther a écrit : - Not having slower arches hold up testing. Slower arches don't hold up testing. Arches with buildd not well managed do. Ok, drop this argument, but what do you think of the rest o

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Sven Luther a écrit : - Not having slower arches hold up testing. Slower arches don't hold up testing. Arches with buildd not well managed do. If you look at the current needs-build graph [1], m68k the slowest arch we support is going pretty well. On the other hand s390 (which is not a slow ar

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Hamish Moffatt a écrit : I see it as more a practical consideration. If you can't buy the hardware new then you will have trouble keeping up with a growing unstable, especially given the requirement that you need <= 2 buildds. So the requirement that you need <= 2 buildds is not well choosen. Why

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Robert Lemmen a écrit : i feel very,very bad about this, but perhaps it's what is needed. i have two *big* concerns though: - maintainers will start to downgrade or ignore bugs that are arch-specififc if that arch is not in "the" archive. we should have at least the requirement that a package m

Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting

2005-03-14 Thread Aurélien Jarno
Steve Langasek a écrit : The much larger consequence of this meeting, however, has been the crafting of a prospective release plan for etch. The release team and the ftpmasters are mutually agreed that it is not sustainable to continue making coordinated releases for as many architectures as sarge