Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-11 Thread Branden Robinson
a policy amendment that is worded clearly enough that slope-heads like me can undersand it. E.g., libxft-dev (currently stuck in queue/new), ships a libXft.a static object, but I suspect that's not what you meant by working with static libs. Or is it? -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU

Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-10 Thread Branden Robinson
regression test for GCC, I'm not *trying* to make you laugh. -- G. Branden Robinson| Reality is what refuses to go away Debian GNU/Linux | when I stop believing in it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Philip K. Dick http://people.debian.org

Re: How come X seems insistent on managing my XF86Config now?

2003-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
[CCing debian-x because if I get hit by a bus or arrested by Secretary Ashcroft today, the following will be important for the inheritor of our XFree86 packages to know.] On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 12:20:01AM -0400, Greg Stark wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just answer

Re: Quote: Debian and Democracy at Advocato.org

2003-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
. Damn, the horse's head in the bed didn't work? :) -- G. Branden Robinson|America is at that awkward stage. Debian GNU/Linux |It's too late to work within the [EMAIL PROTECTED] |system, but too early to shoot the http

Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
. Grumble grumble grumble. -- G. Branden Robinson|If you wish to strive for peace of Debian GNU/Linux |soul, then believe; if you wish to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |be a devotee of truth, then http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |inquire

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
: http://www.freedesktop.org/ Xft was doing some rpath garbage but it now Build-Depends on chrpath and hacks that crap out. There are several newer versions of Xft stalled in queue/new. -- G. Branden Robinson| The only way to get rid of a Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
payload. See xrender 0.8.3-2, which is in queue/accepted as of this writing. So, let's see, I've been violated by ldconfig, libtool, and dpkg-divert all within the past 2 days. I feel like Tera Patrick. -- G. Branden Robinson| That's the saving grace of humor: Debian GNU/Linux

Re: How come X seems insistent on managing my XF86Config now?

2003-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
questions because I need to (greatly) improve the PRIORITY_CEILING logic which I failed to implement correctly. Please see URL: http://people.debian.org/~branden/xsf/FAQ (near the end) if you'd like to know what's going on. -- G. Branden Robinson|I must confess to being surprised

Re: Quote: Debian and Democracy at Advocato.org

2003-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
on this mailing list, in conjunction with phrases like dick-head and will never be allowed into Debian. Presumably there's a good reason for this animosity towards him; would someone mind enlightening me as to why? http://people.debian.org/~rene/exa-log-24-07-2003 -- G. Branden Robinson

Accepted xrender 0.8.3-2 (powerpc source)

2003-10-08 Thread Branden Robinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 21:05:28 -0500 Source: xrender Binary: libxrender-dev libxrender1 libxrender1-dbg Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.8.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-07 Thread Branden Robinson
-0pre1v3. I think the problem with .la files may be solvable by updating Build-Depends and -dev packages' dependencies to refer to libxrender-dev (= 0.8.3-1), and/or libraries that are rebuilt against that version of libxrender-dev. I'm looking into it. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Japanese font license problem

2003-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
for this problem immediately. debian-legal is a more appropriate forum for posts of this nature. Please post there instead. -- G. Branden Robinson|Somebody once asked me if I thought Debian GNU/Linux |sex was dirty. I said, It is if [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted xrender 0.8.3-1 (powerpc source)

2003-10-06 Thread Branden Robinson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 23:33:00 -0500 Source: xrender Binary: libxrender1 libxrender-dev libxrender1-dbg Architecture: source powerpc Version: 0.8.3-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Bug#213897: ITP: libclass-dbi-abstractsearch-perl -- Abstract Class::DBI's SQL with SQL::Abstract

2003-10-03 Thread Branden Robinson
::in::a::while? It's::not::like::this::sort::of::jargon::is::difficult::to::understand,::or ::that::writing::package::descriptions::which::rely::entirely::on::one's ::understanding of::what::other::packages::do::is::uncommon. -- G. Branden Robinson|No executive devotes much effort

Accepted xfree86 4.2.1-12 (powerpc all source)

2003-10-01 Thread Branden Robinson
xterm xmh xlibs-dbg xlibmesa3-dbg x-window-system-core xspecs xfwp xlibosmesa3-dbg libxaw7 xfonts-75dpi-transcoded libdps1-dbg xlibs-dev libxaw7-dev twm xlibmesa3-gl-dbg Architecture: source powerpc all Version: 4.2.1-12 Distribution: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-29 Thread Branden Robinson
updates for released versions of the Debian OS, and updates to unstable. -- G. Branden Robinson| The National Security Agency is Debian GNU/Linux | working on the Fourth Amendment [EMAIL PROTECTED] | thing. http://people.debian.org

Re: Bug#212525: Package contains non-free GNU FDL material

2003-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 10:31:59AM -0700, Brian Nelson wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:40:07PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I did. I feel my packages are not buggy, lacking a position statement by the project. So, what we ship in main

Re: Converting configure.in for use with new auto* tools - what a mess!

2003-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
(apart from the message body and signature). -- G. Branden Robinson|The first thing the communists do Debian GNU/Linux |when they take over a country is to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |outlaw cockfighting. http://people.debian.org/~branden

Re: Bug#212525: Package contains non-free GNU FDL material

2003-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
on this. When a law makes the majority of the population guilty of a crime, one should not obey it without careful deliberation. ...except the majority of the Debian Developer population isn't guilty of shipping non-DFSG-free, GNU FDL-licensed materials in packages in main. -- G. Branden

Accepted xfree86 4.3.0-0pre1v3 (powerpc all source)

2003-09-27 Thread Branden Robinson
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: lbxproxy - Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy server libdps-dev - Display PostScript (DPS) client library development files libdps1- Display PostScript (DPS) client library libdps1-dbg

Re: Bug#212525: Package contains non-free GNU FDL material

2003-09-26 Thread Branden Robinson
or not the Debian Project has passed a General Resolution specifically withdrawing them. -- G. Branden Robinson| Don't ask the barber whether you Debian GNU/Linux | need a haircut. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Daniel S. Greenberg http

Re: Debian should not modify the kernels!

2003-09-24 Thread Branden Robinson
loose other bugs fixes? Profane question? Where is the profanity? Why did you get my hopes up? :) -- G. Branden Robinson|You should try building some of the Debian GNU/Linux |stuff in main that is [EMAIL PROTECTED] |modern

Re: [cjwatson@debian.org: Re: Fwd: Processing of ferret_3.0-2_i386.changes]

2003-09-23 Thread Branden Robinson
GPG hit 1.0... He may not have even heard that the RSA patent expired, or about that court case...what was it? _Bush v. Gore_? -- G. Branden Robinson| The key to being a Southern Debian GNU/Linux | Baptist: It ain't a sin if you [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: propose new virtual package: libxaw-dev

2003-09-21 Thread Branden Robinson
maintain. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. -- G. Branden Robinson| I suspect Linus wrote that in a Debian GNU/Linux | complicated way only to be able to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | have that comment in there. http://people.debian.org

Re: [OT] American version of Harry Potter (Was: Debian should not modify the kernels!)

2003-09-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 12:44:59PM -0400, Lukas Geyer wrote: Ha, the Australians want American kids to read sentences like Fred and I managed to keep our peckers up somehow. At least from puberty until middle age, that doesn't seem too impressive a feat for most males... -- G. Branden

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 06:59:18PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 11:58:03AM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 06:08:06PM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: On Sun, 2003-09-07 at 17:23, Branden Robinson wrote: Man, that's ugly. I use: if [ -n $var

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
credentials in your eyes. I do continue to think that: if [ -n $var ] is more readable than if [ ${var+set} = set ] ...but I remain open to being directed to a section of the Policy manual that firmly establishes my wrongness on that front as well. :) -- G. Branden Robinson|Men

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 09:42:40PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 10:23:15AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Where did you come by this, and if it's something we should worry about, why isn't it documented in Policy? It is, but you shouldn't worry about it anyhow because

Re: installer for non-free packages in contrib

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
the package maintainer decide which severity might be more appropriate. But do no filing at all on this issue until after a consensus has been reached on this mailing list. -- G. Branden Robinson| Yesterday upon the stair, Debian GNU/Linux | I met a man who

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 10:10:34AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Sep 08, 2003 at 03:42:06AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: But if $var contains more than one shell word... You might get different results dependening on whether you remember to quote the shell variable or not. Whoa

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
. :-/ -- G. Branden Robinson|To Republicans, limited government Debian GNU/Linux |means not assisting people they [EMAIL PROTECTED] |would sooner see shoveled into mass http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |graves. -- Kenneth R

Re: ruby-defaults 1.8.0

2003-09-08 Thread Branden Robinson
later than the one that bit me.) -- G. Branden Robinson| That's the saving grace of humor: Debian GNU/Linux | if you fail, no one is laughing at [EMAIL PROTECTED] | you. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- A. Whitney Brown

Re: [Fwd: False Representation at Google.com]

2003-09-07 Thread Branden Robinson
to. Precisely. As all right-thinking people know, the world revolves around *me*. 8-) -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | De minimis non curat lex. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpplYVZtfI3B.pgp

Re: /etc/shells management

2003-09-07 Thread Branden Robinson
of a package that has been purged. But I haven't gone grubbing around in dpkg's source code, so I don't know for sure... -- G. Branden Robinson| Don't use nuclear weapons to Debian GNU/Linux | troubleshoot faults. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- US Air

Re: [Fwd: False Representation at Google.com]

2003-09-06 Thread Branden Robinson
). -- G. Branden Robinson| Don't use nuclear weapons to Debian GNU/Linux | troubleshoot faults. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- US Air Force Instruction 91-111 http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpelBrwBMKcU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: LWN subscription for Debian developers

2003-09-01 Thread Branden Robinson
. If we don't expect Mr. Jacobson to improve, he has less incentive to do so. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | Ignorantia judicis est calamitas [EMAIL PROTECTED] | innocentis. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpimZnesqlT7.pgp

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-30 Thread Branden Robinson
, if the submitter did a good job of tracking down the bug and saved me time, and deserved credit for that. Yup. Both of those scenarios are exactly how I have been using my thanks messages in the XFree86 changelogs for years. -- G. Branden Robinson|Religion is regarded

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-30 Thread Branden Robinson
for it, then! :) -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | If ignorance is bliss, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | is omniscience hell? http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpWfmWh3DSws.pgp Description: PGP signature

[RESULTS] SURVEY: Is the GNU FDL a DFSG-free license?

2003-08-29 Thread Branden Robinson
-legal-200308/msg01214.html [3] http://www.debian.org/social_contract -- G. Branden Robinson|Ambition: an overmastering desire Debian GNU/Linux |to be vilified by enemies while [EMAIL PROTECTED] |living and ridiculed by friends http

Re: Accepted kaffe 1:1.1.1-1 (i386 source)

2003-08-29 Thread Branden Robinson
maintainers who are too lazy to write proper entries for bug-closers in their changelog entries are going to be too lazy to ensure that a bug report has a meaningful summary in the first place. -- G. Branden Robinson|America is at that awkward stage. Debian GNU/Linux

Accepted xfree86 4.2.1-11 (powerpc all source)

2003-08-29 Thread Branden Robinson
xfonts-base xlibs-dbg libxaw7-dev xnest xfonts-100dpi-transcoded libxaw6 xfonts-100dpi xterm xfonts-75dpi-transcoded xprt xlibosmesa-dev xvfb libxaw7 xlibosmesa3 xdm xlibs-dev Architecture: source powerpc all Version: 4.2.1-11 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL

Re: New release of ifupdown planned

2003-08-28 Thread Branden Robinson
Maintainer: field. -- G. Branden Robinson|Computer security is like an onion: Debian GNU/Linux |the more you dig in, the more you [EMAIL PROTECTED] |want to cry. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Cory Altheide pgpN6HhVGgerG.pgp

Re: cpu usage, consideration of others, apt-listbugs

2003-08-27 Thread Branden Robinson
, this is for -project, not for -devel. : Maybe debian-devel-annnounce. We can't have master being DoSsed. -- G. Branden Robinson|The best place to hide something is Debian GNU/Linux |in documentation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-- Ethan Benson

Re: Bug#207300: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken

2003-08-27 Thread Branden Robinson
not listening, and he won't. The best thing may be to reassign the bug to the Technical Committee. -- G. Branden Robinson|There is no housing shortage in Debian GNU/Linux |Lincoln today -- just a rumor that [EMAIL PROTECTED] |is put about

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 25, 2003 at 09:58:31PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 08:11:55PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: Interested parties, please catch up on the last month's worth of traffic to the debian-x mailing list to get a feel for the environment. Maybe you could split

Re: 0 RC bugs == releasable quality?

2003-08-26 Thread Branden Robinson
.) 3) Good job! (okay, okay, I admit, this only about 0.0001% of all feedback) -- G. Branden Robinson| There's nothing an agnostic can't Debian GNU/Linux | do if he doesn't know whether he [EMAIL PROTECTED] | believes in it or not. http

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-24 Thread Branden Robinson
, John Goerzen wrote: On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 12:06:39PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: The Social Contract[1] says that Debian will remain 100% Free Software, and that the Debian Free Software Guidelines shall be a tool that we use to for determining whether something in the Debian

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-24 Thread Branden Robinson
a standard, *or* discuss this on the correct mailing list -- G. Branden Robinson|Freedom is kind of a hobby with me, Debian GNU/Linux |and I have disposable income that [EMAIL PROTECTED] |I'll spend to find out how to get http

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Aug 23, 2003 at 02:00:49AM +0300, Richard Braakman wrote: The survey asks whether the GFDL _does_ satisfy the DFSG, not whether it needs to. Did you misspeak here? Yes. I wrote that reply in hot blood. I didn't write my survey thus. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: A possible GFDL compromise

2003-08-24 Thread Branden Robinson
involved. *sigh* The GNU Manifesto would still be freely available from the FSF website. Lack of forced distribution is not censorship. Get a clue, or a dictionary. Please keep this argument on debian-legal, not debian-devel. -- G. Branden Robinson| I am only good

ViewCVS perpetually busted with Subversion repositories

2003-08-23 Thread Branden Robinson
) * The viewcvs CGI script needs to run with its umask set to 0002 so it doesn't fuck up Subversion repositories. I've attached a patch for this. -- G. Branden Robinson| It just seems to me that you are Debian GNU/Linux | willfully entering

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
, not debian-legal. [1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract -- G. Branden Robinson|It is the responsibility of Debian GNU/Linux |intellectuals to tell the truth and [EMAIL PROTECTED] |expose lies. http://people.debian.org/~branden

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
having a particular set of bits in our distribution. [1] http://www.debian.org/social_contract -- G. Branden Robinson|Of two competing theories or Debian GNU/Linux |explanations, all other things [EMAIL PROTECTED] |being equal

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 10:17:04AM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: Quoting Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. Where has you

Re: GR: Disambiguation of Section 4.1.5 of the constitution

2003-08-22 Thread Branden Robinson
like it turned out to be so hard after all. :) -- G. Branden Robinson| There is no gravity in space. Debian GNU/Linux | Then how could astronauts walk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | around on the Moon? http://people.debian.org/~branden

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 12:18:10PM +0200, Jérôme Marant wrote: We musn't let the bigots decide for us! ;-) Thanks for excusing yourself from the discussion thus. -- G. Branden Robinson| Software engineering: that part of Debian GNU/Linux | computer

Re: Debian Birthday in Netcraft

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 01:36:02PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: So the two major former Iron Curtain countries seem to be France and Germany.. :-) Maybe they meant to say Old Europe. 8-) /me goes to a priest to have the evil spirit of Donald Rumsfeld exorcised -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Debian Weekly News - August 19th, 2003

2003-08-21 Thread Branden Robinson
environment. In short, argue with Jérôme all you want, but please don't accuse him of thought crimes. [1] certain assertions on debian-vote a couple of years ago aside -- G. Branden Robinson| If you're handsome, it's flirting. Debian GNU/Linux | If you're

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-08-20 Thread Branden Robinson
for the environment. If you're not scared after that, please join the list and talk about what you'd like to work on. -- G. Branden Robinson|I must despise the world which does Debian GNU/Linux |not know that music is a higher [EMAIL PROTECTED

Accepted xfree86 4.2.1-10 (powerpc all source)

2003-08-20 Thread Branden Robinson
xfonts-base xlibs-dbg libxaw7-dev xnest xfonts-100dpi-transcoded libxaw6 xfonts-100dpi xterm xfonts-75dpi-transcoded xprt xlibosmesa-dev xvfb libxaw7 xlibosmesa3 xdm xlibs-dev Architecture: source powerpc all Version: 4.2.1-10 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Branden Robinson [EMAIL

Accepted xfree86 4.3.0-0pre1v1 (powerpc all source)

2003-08-09 Thread Branden Robinson
Strike Force [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: lbxproxy - Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy server libdps-dev - Display PostScript (DPS) client library development files libdps1- Display PostScript (DPS) client library libdps1-dbg - Display PostScript

Re: Should this be filed as grave? Gcc-2.95

2003-08-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 12:36:45PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: (IMO, the kernel ignoring $(CC) is the kernel's problem.) Don't you know your O doesn't matter, only Steve's? I'm pretty accustomed to my O mattering only to me. :) -- G. Branden

Re: Should this be filed as grave? Gcc-2.95

2003-08-06 Thread Branden Robinson
. Branden Robinson| To stay young requires unceasing Debian GNU/Linux | cultivation of the ability to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | unlearn old falsehoods. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Robert Heinlein pgpGEVxvsfdCl.pgp Description

Re: unicode

2003-08-04 Thread Branden Robinson
. Not sure how to find which package contains that font. find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -name fonts.dir | xargs grep -r 'bh-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-sans.*iso-10646-1' -- G. Branden Robinson|People are equally horrified at Debian GNU/Linux

Re: DebBugs and Bugzilla synchronization

2003-07-29 Thread Branden Robinson
; Anthony Towns would just strip them off again.[1] Thanks for working on this tool, though, it looks quite promising! [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-debbugs/2003/debian-debbugs-200307/msg5.html -- G. Branden Robinson|America is at that awkward stage. Debian GNU/Linux

Re: gnupg - old bugs

2003-07-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:03:21PM +0200, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote: On Wednesday 23 July 2003 22:44, Branden Robinson wrote: Please send these individual pieces of commentary/feedback to the bugs themselves as well. I'll do it in those cases where my commentary

Re: Work-needing packages report for Jul 11, 2003

2003-07-23 Thread Branden Robinson
, not gaze into people's souls. -- G. Branden Robinson| When dogma enters the brain, all Debian GNU/Linux | intellectual activity ceases. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Anton Wilson http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | pgpvqcgI0KxVf.pgp

Re: Work-needing packages report for Jul 11, 2003

2003-07-23 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 11:14:46AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: er, we have a leader, and he has a delegate, the DAM. The DPL and the DAM are those who can change who the DAM is, through normal functions. Well, that's the theory, anyway... -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Work-needing packages report for Jul 11, 2003

2003-07-23 Thread Branden Robinson
statement is incorrect, as a review of the Constitution will reveal.) -- G. Branden Robinson|The basic test of freedom is Debian GNU/Linux |perhaps less in what we are free to [EMAIL PROTECTED] |do than in what we are free not to http

Re: update-alternatives in maintainer's scripts

2003-07-23 Thread Branden Robinson
for a little while (while dpkg changes the system). I think it's a sound practice to do real work within a maintainer script when you understand what arguments your script has been passed. (I do not, however, claim that the XFree86 packages perfectly embody this advice.) -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: [Debconf] Re: The slides for my talk

2003-07-23 Thread Branden Robinson
, because I'd been hanging around Enrico a fair amount and could tell he had a good sense of humor. -- G. Branden Robinson|I have a truly elegant proof of the Debian GNU/Linux |above, but it is too long to fit [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: gnupg - old bugs

2003-07-23 Thread Branden Robinson
of commentary/feedback to the bugs themselves as well. -- G. Branden Robinson| There's no trick to being a Debian GNU/Linux | humorist when you have the whole [EMAIL PROTECTED] | government working for you. http://people.debian.org

Re: [Debian-au] Debian 10th birthday gear

2003-07-13 Thread Branden Robinson
Anybody else get a bad cryptographic signature on the message to which I am replying? -- G. Branden Robinson| The noble soul has reverence for Debian GNU/Linux | itself. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Friedrich Nietzsche http

Re: Work-needing packages report for Jul 11, 2003

2003-07-13 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jul 12, 2003 at 11:20:57AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: So, who does DAM report to? In actual fact, no one in particular. Who can do something about this extremely long wait? Theoretically, the DPL. -- G. Branden Robinson| To be is to do -- Plato Debian GNU

Re: FWD: Bug#200905: dh_installdocs: don't install empty doc files

2003-07-13 Thread Branden Robinson
could be considered to have some implied meaning, in my mind, it probably has the same meaning as no TODO file at all, so adding this feature would be good. Seconded. -- G. Branden Robinson| Men are born ignorant, not stupid. Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Qt3 still broken (compat-headers), what to do?

2003-07-13 Thread Branden Robinson
as seemingly uncontroversial as voting in opposition to whichever solution Branden Robinson proposes. (Don't believe me? Read the debian-ctte archives.) To punt this to the Technical Committee is to stall a solution for potentially a very long time. If you're certain you're right, and you can get

Re: Accepted xplanet 1.0.1-2.1 (i386 source all)

2003-07-07 Thread Branden Robinson
. If not, are these really the sorts of issues that demand an NMU? (On the other hand, the maintainer hadn't done a release since April 25th, so the package was just beginning to get a little musty.) -- G. Branden Robinson| I suspect Linus wrote that in a Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Accepted atftp 0.6.2 (i386 source)

2003-07-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 01:47:07PM -0400, Remi Lefebvre wrote: Changes: atftp (0.6.2) unstable; urgency=low . * Fixed local and remote buffer overflow (Closes: #196304) In the future, please upload security fixes with urgency=high. -- G. Branden Robinson| What

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-06 Thread Branden Robinson
that have been found with the GNU FDL. If and only if: 1) there are no Invariant Sections 2) there are no Cover Texts 3) there are no Acknowledgements 4) there are no Dedications 5) the restrictions on copying in quantity are waived ...and that's not even a complete list. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Debconf and XFree86 X servers

2003-07-06 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 01:09:21AM +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Please direct any XFree86-specific followup to debian-x.] On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 08:46:00AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: Yet another reasons for wanting to decouple

Re: Juridical prosecution

2003-07-06 Thread Branden Robinson
. And the cluelessness Oscar this year goes too... Mr Sobek! But the competition is always so fierce, and the year isn't over yet... -- G. Branden Robinson| It just seems to me that you are Debian GNU/Linux | willfully entering an arse-kicking [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Why doesn't libsidplay enter testing?

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
anyway, and I still don't understand it why you might think so Dismissing people's concerns with a one-sentence reference to inapposite information is inherently rude. Know whereof you speak, or remain quiet. (Or, alternatively, crack wise. :) ) -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
way to find out how the developers feel might be with General Resolution. It's certainly preferable to putting words in their mouths, as you just did. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | De minimis non curat lex. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 03:54:20PM -0500, Joshua Haberman wrote: * Branden Robinson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:42:01PM -0500, Joshua Haberman wrote: I think non-free removal will seem more radical if it means that Debian will no longer distribute RFCs

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
on my altar... -- G. Branden Robinson|Men use thought only to justify Debian GNU/Linux |their wrong doings, and speech only [EMAIL PROTECTED] |to conceal their thoughts. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |-- Voltaire

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
and true license terms on the software we distribute. If we cannot have a good-faith belief that the license terms stated on a work are not the ones that actually apply, then we might as well get out of the distribution business. None of this reasoning applies to the IETF's RFCs. -- G. Branden

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 03:53:55AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 02:34:56PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: | The Debian Social Contract says Debian Will Remain 100% Free Software. | If there are things in Debian that are not free or not software, | then we may

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 12:53:56AM -0400, David B Harris wrote: Except for the title, the DFSG is very content-agnostic. It can be applied equally well to software, fiction, nonfiction, images, what have you. I think that's a feature. Apparently, some people think it's a bug. -- G. Branden

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
*COUGH*p *COUGH*: *COUGH*/ *COUGH*/ *COUGH*w *COUGH*w *COUGH*w *COUGH*. *COUGH*f *COUGH*s *COUGH*f *COUGH*. *COUGH*o *COUGH*r *COUGH*g *COUGH*/ -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux | If ignorance is bliss, [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Debconf or not debconf : Conclusion

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 04:21:45PM +0200, Julien LEMOINE wrote: I will upload a stunnel4 package and a stunnel with Epoch tomorrow. Excellent decision. :) Thank you. -- G. Branden Robinson| The key to being a Southern Debian GNU/Linux | Baptist

Debconf and XFree86 X servers

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
/reorg (once settled, safe to release 4.3.0-1 to unstable) -- G. Branden Robinson|Any man who does not realize that Debian GNU/Linux |he is half an animal is only half a [EMAIL PROTECTED] |man. http://people.debian.org/~branden

Re: eicar.com installer in Debian, and pre-upload interface to ftpmaster

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
in the more transparent manner called for by some developers if the scope of their duties doesn't expand. -- G. Branden Robinson| Communism is just one step on the Debian GNU/Linux | long road from capitalism to [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: NEWS.Debian support is here

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
news, if the user wants (more useful for stable users). Kick ASS. Thanks, guys. -- G. Branden Robinson| Debian GNU/Linux |Yeah, that's what Jesus would do. [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Jesus would bomb Afghanistan. Yeah. http://people.debian.org

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-05 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jul 06, 2003 at 12:33:52AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are borderline cases, such as the GFDL or free works in non-editable formats (PS, PDF, in some cases even HTML), or licenses or other documents of perceived legal relevance

Re: Debconf or not debconf

2003-07-03 Thread Branden Robinson
is a decimal (not hexadecimal) value. For example, PCI:0:16:0 is valid input (without the double-quotes). I'm trying to get my debconf notes down to just input validation errors. -- G. Branden Robinson| The key to being a Southern Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Package Moscow ML and HOL

2003-07-03 Thread Branden Robinson
. Branden Robinson| There's nothing an agnostic can't Debian GNU/Linux | do if he doesn't know whether he [EMAIL PROTECTED] | believes in it or not. http://people.debian.org/~branden/ | -- Graham Chapman pgp61otkLpfKB.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:00:47PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: There seem to be someone believing that standard documents should be treated as software. That would be clause #1 of the Debian Social Contract. -- G. Branden Robinson| Organized religion is a sham

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Branden Robinson
, and should be rejected. Standards are not software, nor software manuals, and should not be treated as such. I fully agree. Banning RFCs from debian is just silly. So, what other non-DFSG-free stuff is it silly to ban? Netscape Navigator? Adobe Acrobat Reader? -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Branden Robinson
Constitution 4.1.5 first, however. -- G. Branden Robinson| When dogma enters the brain, all Debian GNU/Linux | intellectual activity ceases. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | -- Robert Anton Wilson http://people.debian.org/~branden

Re: Please remove RFCs from the documentation in Debian packages

2003-07-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jul 04, 2003 at 01:46:11AM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 12:35:06PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: | So, what other non-DFSG-free stuff is it silly to ban? Netscape | Navigator? Adobe Acrobat Reader? Of course not. They're software. RFCs aren't

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