On Fri, Jun 10, 2005 at 03:31:06PM +0100, Will Newton wrote:
> On Friday 10 June 2005 15:27, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Yes, for the moment getting that into testing requires release-team
> > approval (which is unlikely to be withheld - it's just so that the udeb
> > can
e now require manual intervention from the release team?
Yes, for the moment getting that into testing requires release-team
approval (which is unlikely to be withheld - it's just so that the udeb
can be synced at the same time).
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a correct way, but certainly don't touch
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Debian could make it the
> default;
I already did:
groff (1.18.1.1-7) unstable; urgency=low
* Too many fonts are missing the Unicode HYPHEN character, so I give up.
Render "-" as HYPHEN-MINUS (ASCII 0x2D) by default. (Of course, manual
pages using "-" when they
t defined what the
> existing unqualified locale names mean, save in the defaults,
/usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED is a little more than "the defaults", I think.
It's at least standard across systems that use glibc (in that you may
get additional entries, but you won't get differen
about needing more buildd maintainers;
he was talking about the task of chasing up issues involved in trying to
get required package uploads built everywhere, which currently ends up
being a very significant time drain on the release team (since that's
the set o
On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 07:44:17AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 12:55:36PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 11:45:59PM +1200, Nigel Jones wrote:
> > > ditto, plus, isn't there meant to be a few more good features coming
> &
at.
>
> That answers my question. Whatever amount of work the porters can do for
> these architectures, they won't be accepted.
That's an incorrect paraphrase of what Steve said.
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> On 06/06/05, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 06, 2005 at 02:13:50AM -0700, Stephen Birch wrote:
> > > Is it your hope that the debian project will switch to the new software
> > &
er?
I think that's pretty unlikely, personally ...
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the change as close to the beginning of a release cycle
as possible in order to have as much time as possible to clean up any
resulting problems. This had nothing to do with fictional business
models and everything to do with straightforward practical release
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ly, depending on
how much time we have available to make the code better and more generic
versus just making it work so that we can ship something.
Yes, fixing that situation could be very useful for other derivative
distributions too.
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average more along the lines of handling different
archive layouts than insanely voluminous translation changes, I'll feel
less like I'm bloating the d-i repository up with stuff that doesn't
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> > assume udeb support and Debian is not there yet.
>
> I have no idea what you mean. What does running hpoj as non-root have to do
> with udebs?
s/udeb/udev/g
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On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 12:21:04PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 11:11:09AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Wed, May 25, 2005 at 07:39:30AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > What it means: the Ubuntu maintainer for tla-load-dirs (sorry, don't kno
we hope should make this less likely to
happen again.
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gt; > it into sid and not worry about the dependency issue, right?
> >
> > i've been using apt .6 on one of my machines, and while i haven't kept
> > a super-close eye on it, i haven't noticed anything that would make
> > me think it an unsuitable candidate
verity (and, honestly, what's the
point of the release-critical severities otherwise)? We can block
packages from testing, but it's awkward to do that routinely for single
bugs, and I wouldn't want to encourage that situation.
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ersion 2.0-6 in unstable; look for
log_*_msg.
The main current issue with these functions, IMO, is that the output is
not user-configurable.
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kgrounding itself if it's there and if there isn't already an
update-menus process waiting.
It could be an apt DPkg::Post-Invoke hook, but this is no good for
people running 'dpkg -i' directly; really, it's an ideal use case for
the as-yet-unimplemented dpkg trigger mec
I'm not interested in extra merge effort
due to an Ubuntu patch for a spelling error, so I generally just
make these in Debian directly as I notice them and only hurry the
merge to Ubuntu if they're user-visible.
I hope this helps to clarify things a little. It's a hug
-traffic enough to be readable anyway.)
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uot;themeable", i.e. the display style is in code in /lib so you
can't customise it locally without having it trashed on upgrade, and so
on. Fixing that would be good.
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On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 12:18:44AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 05:36:33AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote:
> > There is no transfer needed at all, IOW the capability to do releases
> > from ports.debian.org exists (and is a very good thing, as Colin
>
if we could simply use the current support in britney for
declaring that an architecture isn't keeping up to date and that any
problems with it shouldn't block the rest of testing. I'm not sure what
the consequences of that would be for the usability of testing on
non-releasin
On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 05:38:30PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 04:10:30PM +0100, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > #include
> > * Colin Watson [Mon, Mar 14 2005, 02:40:56PM]:
> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:31:30PM +0100, Christoph Berg wrote:
> >
here.
Right. We might need to do either etch-ignore or a lower severity in the
meantime, though; Architecture: would take a little while to implement
properly.
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I like this idea. SCC was a working codename that I think was originally
intended to be changed as soon as somebody thought of something better,
but nobody ever quite got round to it ...
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is whether it
goes on ftp.d.o or scc.d.o. There's a point of view that says that
committing to release powerpc from scc.d.o means that we're committed to
making sure that we *can* release architectures from scc.d.o, which is a
good thing ...
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y making it an essential part of our
infrastructure?
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expectation that it would be part of sarge. It's not fair to do this
sort of thing at the last minute.
After sarge is a different matter, though.
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g particularly given the lacking support
for Unicode HYPHEN in many fonts (especially on the console).
(Either way, it should still be configurable, and manual pages should
still be fixed.)
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On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 04:27:48AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 10:23 +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:45:47PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 00:53 +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > > I have severa
o have 2GB mbox files?
Consider a spam-bin folder that you don't split by month or whatever and
don't check very often.
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 08:59:00PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> > On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 07:54:27PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote:
> >> Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> >> > Re: Daniel Burrows in <
ebstd, its interface and implementation suck, and I have maintained
it while never really deigning to use it. Now there is a remplacment:
dh_install, which ...
- copies files, doesn't move them. Closes: #75360, #82649
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> > Package: texgd (debian/main)
>
> But actually tex4ht has two RC-bugs (both tagged sarge-ignore, but the
> package is being worked on, see [EMAIL PROTECTED]).
>
> What happened to the other RC bug?
They're merged, so it only lists the first.
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> the mirror push? Somehow can consistent versions of xxx and yyy
> either be made sure to go out this mirror run together, or both wait
> for the next run?
That's the problem that the testing distribution is intended to solve.
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On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 01:01:15PM +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:43:41AM +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Well, if any program were to actually depend on this virtual package,
> > they'd need to know which encoder was being used in order to corre
the bug.
Well, if any program were to actually depend on this virtual package,
they'd need to know which encoder was being used in order to correctly
support the differing argument conventions. In which case, why not just
depend on the encoders they know ho
virtual package
> than "mp3-encoder".
What would the interface provided by such a virtual package be?
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exit status from the SSH_ASKPASS program, rather than
text entered into the requester.
This was added in OpenSSH 3.6.
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then you should rethink your own security design.
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kill existing sessions. You clearly have an
existing session because you're using it to upgrade.
I think it's better to restart sshd (and possibly have to clean up the
occasional problem) than to have it silently continue running using old
libraries with security issues.
C
e-passwd. Anyone on -devel want to help figure out
what's wrong?
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On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 12:42:41PM -0500, Jay Berkenbilt wrote:
> Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 03:53:58PM +0100, Santiago Vila wrote:
> >> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005, Anthony Towns wrote:
> >> > We really need to get dpkg
have
those semantics (in addition to suppressing warnings about overwritten
files). Conflicts/Replaces/Provides would indeed be overkill.
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ork pretty
> well in Fedora.
IME porting changes to the installer's guts from one installer to a
totally different installer is not a particularly productive approach.
It was easier to do it from scratch.
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on devfs is a bad idea long time
> ago, but let's not warm that up again.
*shrug* Changing d-i to use udev instead of devfs when building 2.6
images is almost trivial; I did it for Ubuntu with very little pain.
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packages without getting a chance to look at
them. That's just terrible UI design.
People often complain about dselect's user interface, but let's not make
gratuitously bad UI decisions! Enter was explicitly avoided at the help
screen when dselect was written for this exact rea
e of us
who have been using it since woody and earlier. Switching back to the
old behaviour unbroke it. As the changelog message states, encouraging
people to press Enter in dselect is dangerous.
Use 'dselect --expert' if you don't want to see the help messages at
all.
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system could know about new packages more often than once a day would be
somewhat useful too.
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On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:22:43AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 04:58:56PM -0500, William Ballard wrote:
> > Given that -source packages do not adequately specify the dependencies
> > to be able to use the output, one must NEVER run "dpkg -i" a giv
ort
dependency problems encountered in the configure step, nor exit non-zero
when it encounters them. See bug #55364. It's much more efficient for
users to keep the old .debs around and simply use dpkg -i, which will
exit non-zero on errors and allow you to put the old .deb back.
Seems clear that
stops
> > believing us and finds an option that actually works.
>
> I started using Linux (and Debian) a couple months after Woody "came
> out." Was woody due "any day now" for a year like this?
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of the GFDL must be released, for which
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e release management team.
:-( In future, please perform such widespread audits *before* base
system freezes, not *during* them.
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when mozilla-firefox is actually ready for testing in its own
right (it's currently missing a sparc build).
> Eric: Should we upload with priority=high to be ready for Sarge ASAP?
britney already considers mozilla-firefox urgency=critical due to:
mozilla-firefox (0.10.1+1.0PR-1) experime
is Section: base. and,
> iiuc, base should be self-contained (that is, packages in base must
> not depend on packages outside it).
I don't believe such a restriction exists. "Section: base" is pretty
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tements like 'debconf is not a
> >registry'.)
>
> Why is the information given during package installation stored
> persistently in the first place?
As a convenience so that you don't have to waste time answering
questions again and again.
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On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 11:20:39PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:51:45AM -0700, Joe Buck wrote:
> > For people who care about getting sarge out, it's not useful to put out
> > a report listing 726 bugs, only 150 of which matter, in a form that
> > makes i
nvestigate why they're not reaching the
debian-devel-announce readership.
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ical? For instance, deciding to target the distribution at
> most popular architectures only?
In my experience as both a Canonical employee and a Debian developer,
the number of architectures supported by Ubuntu makes a negligible
difference to Ubuntu's ability to release.
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ing the size of the team to the point where
effective coordination became impossible.
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oth, since it speaks of Depends and
Recommends (which only apply to binary packages) and Build-Depends
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ore bugs against different
> packages.
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split apart again? Are
> their original values restored, or do they keep their new values?
They keep their new values.
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yet,
although I'm willing to be corrected on this. I agree that's the right
place for programs like sshd and Xsession to get this information.
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On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 09:43:52AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.10.13.0929 +0200]:
> > martin f krafft wrote:
> > > Have people seen these?
> >
> > Thousands of times.
>
> Have people responded? What
On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 08:22:14AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> Have people seen these?
Thousands of times.
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2004 at 01:13:34PM +0200, Tilo Schwarz wrote:
> On Saturday 09 October 2004 15:56, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 12:48:27AM +0200, Tilo Schwarz wrote:
> > > Just one remark: When I was asked to enter a package server I would
> > > h
uded to volatile.d.n.
>
> Is for example a package "whois" also a candidate for volatile?
> Regestries change from time to time; i just consider .org changed within
> the last 2,5 years...
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t; > should depend upon, instead of constantly reinvent the wheeland
> > make up, translators, do damn boring work.
>
> Is is guaranteed that these templates be available in the .config script?
The templates would probably have to be copied at build-time,
d
.
Scroll up to the top of the country list and you'll see "enter
information manually".
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own that they work with
> spamassassin 3.
This is backwards. The conflicts must be added in spamassassin in order
that we don't forget to remove said other packages from sarge if
necessary.
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atically win you the argument.
FWIW, I think that every upload to the security archive should be
accompanied by a security advisory. I wouldn't be at all surprised if
the security team felt that uploads that don't merit security advisories
were an inappropriate use of their archive.
Chee
ty with US-ASCII. See RFC
2279 for the definition of UTF-8.
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 06:32:01PM -0500, sean finney wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:22:57PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Fixed now.
>
> earlier today i submitted a bug against an orphaned package in wnpp,
> and haven't yet recieved a reply. normally the replies c
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 08:57:34PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:01:01PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > Many bags disapeared in my mozilla screen when I was looking at:
> > http://bugs.debian.org/ipmasq
[...]
> > I wish this is true but ... I k
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:01:01PM +0100, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 11:19:04AM +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:05:44AM +, Henning Makholm wrote:
> > > How quickly is a change of maintainer supposed to propagate to the BTS?
> ..
the meantime?
In the meantime, I've rsynced the Maintainers file by hand, so you're
now correctly listed as autotrace's maintainer.
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aterial being, holding a
> middle place between men and deities in pagan mythology.
> [1913 Webster]
I wonder if people here object to the daemon() library call.
I have to say that this whole discussion is reminding me of Jesux
(http://www
doesn't apply since 'queue' is not a binary, but obviously
file conflicts are bad anyway. Perhaps policy should have a similar
comment about manual pages containing a footnote documenting the
extension convention above.
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thought that a plain list of what's currently in NEW
would be OK and useful.
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re fairly normal right now to be honest, but if you do
take a vacation at least please make sure somebody uploads kdebase. :)
I guess one of the QA group will have a look at developer.php soon.
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way it should be. Experimental isn't a complete
distribution in the sense that the others are, so it doesn't really
deserve a codename.
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ould be a big slice of some machine's resources.
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perhaps because your post didn't have a Content-Type: header to specify
the character set. I checked in the raw list archives on master and it
was indeed nine times ASCII 0x3f.
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On Fri, Dec 12, 2003 at 03:35:53PM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote:
> I noticed that http://qa.debian.org/developer.php still isn't
> updating.
See debian-qa. It looks as if this can be re-enabled soon, but the
primary author of developer.php currently doesn't have a key in the
key
;t appear to be generally broken.
I wonder, though, if all five (!) MXs are doing the right thing.
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I wonder why it is missing from
>
>
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=tipptrainer&archive=yes
>
> but this might be a different effect.
Hmm, how odd. (Yes, it's a different effect - index.archive was
truncated for some reason
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 11:22:42AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Colin Watson wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 08:30:49AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > I just sendet
> > >
> > > mailx -s "Merge" [EMAIL PROTECTED] <<
63
> does not exist in the BTS.
#219863 is archived, as http://bugs.debian.org/219863 says near the top
of the page. You can't make any changes to archived bugs.
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d it. I've fixed it now.
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ng-security; urgency=high
[...]
* Support setuid ssh-keysign binary instead of setuid ssh client.
[...]
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enty of bugs that should be fixed, certainly, but not all of
them need to be release-critical.
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nics in the peanut gallery. :)
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nd might have time to look into it before accounts reopen,
> but if not, it'll be fixed then. As long as the bugs themselves are
> displaying fine (bugreport.cgi / http://bugs.debian.org/nn), no
> information is being lost, and the indices can be easily recreated.
This has been fixed f
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