Hi, Russ:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Russ Allbery escribió:
> "Jesús M. Navarro" writes:
> > I think I'll go here into troubled waters but It's my opinion (as
> > somebody that has worked implementing and policying issue tracking
> > systems,
Hi, Don:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Don Armstrong escribió:
> On Tue, 01 Mar 2011, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> > Is *that* Debian's official position? That the bug report system is
> > not there to offer a service to Debian users?
>
> The BTS exists to help
Hi, Ian:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Ian Jackson escribió:
> Jesús M. Navarro writes ("Re: What bug reports are for"):
> > Hi, Josselin:
> > > You seem to forget the very reason bug reports are here. Their point is
> > > not to offer a service to our
Hi, Russ:
En fecha Martes, 1 de Marzo de 2011, Russ Allbery escribió:
> "Jesús M. Navarro" writes:
> > En fecha Domingo, 27 de Febrero de 2011, Josselin Mouette escribió:
> >> Now, maintainers receive a lot of bug reports, and have limited time to
> >>
&
Hi, Josselin:
En fecha Domingo, 27 de Febrero de 2011, Josselin Mouette escribió:
> Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 14:50 +0200, Dmitry Baryshev a écrit :
> > Who should do this investigation? I did it because I know how to debug
> > this. If user don't know how to debug this, his bug report will be
Hi, Josselin:
En fecha Domingo, 27 de Febrero de 2011, Josselin Mouette escribió:
[...]
> Now, maintainers receive a lot of bug reports, and have limited time to
> spare on Debian. Given the choice between:
> 1. packaging a new upstream release that fixes a lot of bugs;
> 2. fixing a nic
Hi, Olaf:
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 17:18:58 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> 2011/2/1 Jesús M. Navarro :
> > So, may I propose (if not already done) a document that outlines with
> > enough detail what Debian maintenance policy is and why from an upstream
> > point of view, and
Hi, Ian:
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 14:11:44 Ian Jackson wrote:
> Thijs Kinkhorst writes ("Re: Upstream "stable" branches and Debian freeze"):
> > In the past such things have not been allowed with the argumentation that
> > even though stable may contain bugs, users rely on the behaviour that
>
Hi, Olaf:
On Thursday 20 January 2011 09:51:27 Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Nikita V. Youshchenko
wrote:
> > Then, maybe explicitly request upstream - at appropriate forums and in
> > appropriate polite wording - to help debian team(s) to handle the bug
> > report
Hi, Ian:
On Monday 17 January 2011 13:32:33 Ian Jackson wrote:
> Don Armstrong writes ("Re: Why is help so hard to find?"):
> > A possible hack would be to have insserv ignore any initscripts which
> > are conffiles which when run without options exit with zero status.
>
> It could probably safely
Hi, Mike:
On Sunday 16 January 2011 23:37:20 Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sun January 16 2011 13:40:58 Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> > Regarding your patch, I find the first part of it being quite to the
> > point while the second paragraph is unneeded as long as the information
> >
Hi, Mike:
On Sunday 16 January 2011 19:48:24 Mike Bird wrote:
[...]
> I filed a bug[1] with a simple patch[2] to give people fair
> notice of the pros and cons of insserv but unfortunately
> Julien Cristau simply closed the bug without explanation[3].
Regarding your patch, I find the first part
Hi, Mike:
On Saturday 15 January 2011 19:51:43 Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sat January 15 2011 01:59:06 Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > insserv has issues, but it's still an improvement over the previous
> > situation and, unlike the other new init systems, it's actually
> > backward-compatible.
>
> I have no
Hi, John:
On Friday 14 January 2011 16:49:18 John Goerzen wrote:
[...]
> I think it is a huge waste of time to expect DDs to go through 400 bugs
> just to see if the problem is still there. Just close them outright.
Why the package(s) got 400 bugs to start with? If the problem is there, then
Hi, Peter:
On Friday 14 January 2011 10:29:57 Peter Samuelson wrote:
> [Jesús M. Navarro]
>
> > If any, bugs you (properly) pass to the upstream developer are bugs
> > that will cost you not a dime of your valuable time from them on.
>
> You didn't read the rest of th
Hi, Andreas:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 09:19:35 Andreas Tille wrote:
[...]
> In short: The Debian maintainer is responsible that a bug will be
> reported upstream. I don't see a problem if he delegates the actual
> work to somebody else who is able and willing to do the job (but please
> be ni
Hi, John:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 19:25:59 John Goerzen wrote:
> On 01/12/2011 09:35 AM, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
[...]
> But still, let's say that a Debian developer has X minutes to spend on
> Debian a day.
Let's be true: it's not that a Debian developer has X minutes to spend but
that a Debia
Hi, Sune:
On Thursday 13 January 2011 00:12:06 Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2011-01-12, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> >> I have considered to take this one step further. Close bugs reported in
> >> Debian BTS with a severity of important or less that is a bug that
> >> shou
Hi, Sune:
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 14:27:23 Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2011-01-11, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > I've noticed a trend lately that I am often asked to forward the bugs I
> > report to the Debian BTS upstream, either by the maintainers or
> > automatically by a bug script. I believ
Hi, Pedro Paolo:
On Wednesday 27 October 2010 14:46:08 Pedro Paulo Argolo wrote:
> Debian
> needs better support video cards from Nvidia and ATI video boards
> Intel. I had configuration problems because of that, and for a typical
> user is a very embarrassing situation. ~: (
You should ask for
Hi, Josselin:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 08:15:56 Josselin Mouette wrote:
[...]
> Le mardi 19 octobre 2010 à 02:12 +0200, Jesús M. Navarro a écrit :
> > What about the old-fashioned "wheel" group[1]?
>
> This would be an even worse disaster than “admin”, for simila
Hi, Michael:
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 00:38:41 Michael Biebl wrote:
> Hi,
[...]
> The idea is, to have a distinct group. Members of that group have
> administrative privileges using sudo and PolicKit.
[...]
> While I think the idea of using a distinct group for users with
> administrative pr
Hi, Enrico:
On Friday 15 October 2010 13:39:13 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Enrico Weigelt schrieb:
> > > No, the userland code that interprets the exports file does.
> >
> > So why that artificial dependency ?
>
> More precisely: where's the dependency between a local resolver
> and an authorative
Hi, Enrico:
On Friday 17 September 2010 09:08:39 Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Vincent Bernat schrieb:
> > >> Some users just don't have recent enough autotools to rebuild the
> > >> configure.
> > >
> > > They should simply install it. Similar as they need recent toolchain,
> > > make, pkg-config, e
Hi, Fernando:
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 04:00:11 Fernando Lemos wrote:
> 2010/7/26 Jesús M. Navarro :
[...]
> How many BTS reports have you closed?
>
> I don't mean to sound offensive here, but this thread is fruitless.
> All I see is people talking and talking over somethin
Hi Marc:
On Monday 26 July 2010 17:54:29 Marc Haber wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:32:49 -0400, Will wrote:
> >Additionally, an HTTP interface to reportbug would be a good idea.
> >Many new users find it difficult or unnecessary to set up an MTA when
> >they first install, so allowing to use som
Hi, Ian:
On Monday 26 July 2010 13:49:00 Ian Jackson wrote:
> Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was:
Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"):
> > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the
> > BTS. I would have s
Hi, Don:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 23:51:10 Don Armstrong wrote:
[...]
> Testing's primary purpose is as a staging ground for the next release;
> while it'd be nice to try to keep it working as a fully installable
> version all of the time, progress to the next release is more
> important than that
Hi, Neil:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 20:28:49 Neil Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:53:53 -0700
[..]
> Removing packages from testing does not remove them from any existing
> installation, so it's hard to see how the removal of packages which are
> plainly not suitable for release in stable
Hi again, Russ:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 14:21:09 Russ Allbery wrote:
> "Jesús M. Navarro" writes:
[...]
> I don't agree; I think it's very hard to say the same thing about testing.
I already told you that's about perceptions and that each one has his own so
Hi, Andreas:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:38:03 Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 10:28:36AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> > IMHO we should care about improving Debian, going toward the perfection,
> > not about increasing the number of users (which should
> > be a nice secondar
Hi, jj:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 10:11:34 j jj wrote:
> Years ago, when I chose which linux should be installed to my computer, it
> is dpkg which attracted me. No other linux systems have such a feature.
>
> However, ubuntu and redhat both have the same feature now.
>
> The question is : what is
Hi, Russ:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:55:52 Russ Allbery wrote:
> Will writes:
> > 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> This one always boggles me and makes me wonder if we should present
> >> Debian unstable or testing as the "typical" installation. Debian
> >> testing (and often Debi
Hi, Ben:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 08:09:44 Ben Finney wrote:
> Russ Allbery writes:
> > This one [claim of Debian's libraries being out-of-date] always
> > boggles me and makes me wonder if we should present Debian unstable or
> > testing as the "typical" installation. Debian testing (and often
>
Hi, Manoj:
On Thursday 22 July 2010 07:17:15 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 21 2010, Will wrote:
> > Also I imagine that it helps that they have some kind of commercial
> > support behind their projects, whereas Debian has little/none of that.
>
> One of the issues I have faced in
Hi, Hans:
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:38:02 Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi community,
>
> well, I think, the main problem is, WHO are the persons, you want to
> actiuvate.
[...]
> Group 4: People, who decide in business, which OS to use.
[...]
> Group 4: Business deciders are a big problem. They
Hi, Petter:
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 14:41:49 Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> The number of submissions to the Debian popularity-contest collector
> is falling, and has done so for some time now. This can be easily
> seen on http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png >.
>
> This is mostly caused by a
Hi, Steve:
On Wednesday 11 November 2009 08:17:50 Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 07:37:56AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> > IMHO, with not very convincing arguments. And no sign of answer about
> > the real potential problem: would that be another trademark issue.
> >
> > What
Hi, Kevin:
El Jueves, 13 Octubre 2005 09:03, Kevin Mark escribió:
[...]
> Hi Thijs and fellow DDs,
> something just sprang into my brain as you mentioned the 'm$ office
> thingy'. gnome is a meta-package and someone wondered how he could
> install 'his' gnome. here is a scenerio:
>
> apt-get inst
Hi, Sami:
El Domingo, 18 Septiembre 2005 23:22, Sami Dalouche escribió:
> OK, may be an overkill.
> But what happens with your solution if skype depends on libskype, which is
> not available from debian's repository ?The user has to download several
> .debs in order to install a single software ?
Hi, Sylvain:
El Viernes, 16 Septiembre 2005 16:12, Sylvain Beucler escribió:
> Hello,
>
> I have a couple Debian packages that I need to patch with custom local
> changes. The patches are small and I hence can follow the security
> updates from the security team.
>
> However, I wonder if there's a
Hi, Andreas:
El Martes, 06 Septiembre 2005 18:20, Andreas Schuldei escribió:
> * Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-09-06 17:39:06]:
> > Which I fail to understand, as the limited rights provided to me by
> > law should be sufficient for the wiki content in most cases.
>
> i spoke to a
Hi, Wouter:
El Lunes, 05 Septiembre 2005 19:52, Wouter Verhelst escribió:
[...]
>
> "spam", as in, unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular
> brand of corned beef. See http://www.spam.com/
Not exactly. Spam, as unsolicited bulk email, was named after a particular
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