Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, I am the maintainer of the packages z80ex and kcemu in Debian. I have been working on converting the package z80ex (a library) to Multi-Arch. I have so far followed the guide in [1] to make the package ready for Multi-Arch and I have succeeded in creating a Multi-Arch version. When I ins

Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello, I am the maintainer of the packages z80ex and kcemu in Debian. I have been working on converting the package z80ex (a library) to Multi-Arch. I have so far followed the guide in [1] to make the package ready for Multi-Arch and I have succeeded in creating a Multi-Arch version. When I ins

Re: Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Neil, On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:42:42 +0100 > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > >> I have been working on converting the package z80ex (a library) to >> Multi-Arch. > > Why are you changing the .install files

Re: Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi Steve, On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > The problem here is that you're using dh_install to move the runtime > libraries from /usr/lib (where the upstream rules install them) to the > multiarch directory, but you aren't updating the contents of libz80ex-dev at > all for mu

Re: Problems converting a library to Multi-Arch

2012-02-20 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:55 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > >> Do I understand correctly that despite the package being Multi-Arch, >> there will still be symbolic links in /usr/lib pointing to the native >> versions of the .so files to /usr/

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 02/21/2012 08:06 PM, W. Martin Borgert wrote: >> If I understand correctly, the current Ubuntu version 1.4-0ubuntu8 >> works perfectly for Debian. Is there any reason to not upload this >> version to Debian? >> >> > I always wondered: what

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 21, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >> Debian has a history for providing a variety of packages with similar >> functionality and leave the choice up to the user. > >> However, with systemd at the horizon, I don't see a need in supporting it >> either. Ubuntu will probably make t

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 21, 2012, at 10:12 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > What do you know of the upstart design that makes you think systemd's design > is better? The above could be a paraphrase of Lennart's blog, for all it > says about the upstart design. Socket-based activation. It just seems to be the proper

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-21 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 21, 2012, at 11:22 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:28:55PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >>> What do you know of the upstart design that makes you think systemd's design >>> is better? The above could be a paraphrase of Lennart&#

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:21 PM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-22 at 00:32 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Feb 21, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> >>> The biggest disadvantage of systemd is surely that it is Linux-only and >>> probably won&#x

Enabling package installation for non-root users

2012-02-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hi, I'm looking for a way to enable non-root users to install packages on their local machines, but not removing/purging them. I know that probably the proper way to achieve that is PackageKit, but I was wondering if there is also a way to allow the use of apt-get, with constraints for certain op

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

2012-02-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Feb 25, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Well, I fudged a little here. You're right that, as written above, nis is > not guaranteed to start before autofs. Due to a (well-understood and > recognized) limitation of upstart's current event handling, if the > 'runlevel' event is seen

Bug#680892: ITP: radeontop -- radeontop: Utility to show Radeon GPU utilization

2012-07-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: radeontop Version : 0.5.4 Upstream Author : Lauri Kasanen * URL : https://github.com/clbr/radeontop * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C Description : radeontop

Bug#680899: ITP: fs-uae -- fs-uae: Amiga emulator based on the latest WinUAE emulation code with the focus on gaming

2012-07-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: fs-uae Version : 1.2.1 Upstream Author : Frode Solheim * URL : http://fengestad.no/wp/fs-uae * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C++, Python Description : fs-uae: Amiga

Debian Changelogs - was: Re: Bug#756582: new syntax error when invoking "udevadm test" breaks installing/ upgrading

2014-07-31 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
trol system and use "git-dch --auto" to generate the changelog entry for the new version. Of course, this assumes you are writing sensible and useful git commit messages :). Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.o

Re: Roll call for porters of architectures in sid and testing

2014-08-09 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
o be able to resolve the dependency problems. gcc-4.9 has been building since Wednesday but it's looking good. I hope to have the packages uploaded over the weekend. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `'

Re: Technical committee acting in gross violation of the Debian constitution

2014-11-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
a farce and the result should not be adopted. We haven't even waited for the results of the GR. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75

Re: can someone explain what is happen on line one from this listing?

2013-05-11 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ts.html#linux-raid > [2] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-scsi > [3] http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-admin -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.f

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-12 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
that we have the capability in Debian to choose between different kernels, so I guess it's natural that we have discussions about being able to make choices for init as well :). Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@deb

Re: Switching default dpkg-deb compressor to xz

2013-05-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
hy shouldn't I repeat past complaints others have made on previous posts. I don't know, but I think you shouldn't. Progress will happen anyways. I think your singling me out. My singling what? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian

Re: /bin/sh (was Re: jessie release goals)

2013-05-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
binary data is actually *easier* to process. Everyone who has ever written a text parser themselves will agree. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
n in a BSD userland, after all. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRI

Re: Debian launchd survey

2013-05-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 05/22/2013 05:51 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 09:15:03AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: What about launchd? Wouldn't it be possible to port that to Debian/kFreeBSD? It's designed to run in a BSD userland, after all. That doesn't seem like it wo

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
r the X.org/DRM developers or any developers of desktops like KDE, Enlightment or GNOME. Adrian * As you may know, systemd is developed by a large amount of contributors. > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bzr -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - gl

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-22 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hat for being a good one! Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
e project which has the largest amount of contributors which was exactly my point. Adrian > [1] http://www.ohloh.net/p/systemd > [2] http://www.ohloh.net/p/openrc > [3] http://www.ohloh.net/p/upstart -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
other logging daemons which most of them I haven't even heard of before. It's a bit unfair to use these for statistics, they simply don't play any important role. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `&#

Re: Debian systemd survey

2013-05-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
s of the original Unix concept weren't quite happy with the design and actually replaced Unix with something called Plan 9? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.f

Re: Switching to mozilla ESR in stable-security

2013-05-28 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
t/ > [2] http://paste.debian.net/7192/ -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Multi-Arch for plugin packages

2013-05-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
on of my gkrellm2-cpufreq now, but I haven't uploaded it yet. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 00

Re: Custom Reload command/signal in upstart

2013-06-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
encies are running and starts them prior to starting sshd if necessary. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 00

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
be additionally taken care of which means I would spend time and efforts which I could spend on other, more important projects. What's the point in doing that work when, in the end, hardly anyone is using it? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : De

Re: Custom Reload command/signal in upstart

2013-06-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
should be started like that. If you need to have CUPS running in the background, idling, then you can just let systemd start it anytime you want with the proper configuration in its unit file. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 06/01/2013 04:48 PM, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 12:42:33 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: What's the point in doing that work when, in the end, hardly anyone is using it? Freedom. It is not free to take away freedom just because too few people have chosen to exe

Re: systemd .service file conversion

2013-06-02 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
run the same OS on a supercomputer, a toaster, a smartphone and a space station. I want that toaster :D. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG:

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
g bugs. We're working to get Mate into Debian [1-2], so you will be back on your beloved GNOME2 desktop in Debian Jessie and newer :). Adrian > [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mate-common.html > [2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mate-doc-utils.html -- .''`. John

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ld have helped in finding and smashing RC bugs during the Wheezy freeze. In fact, many the RC bugs were related to Squeeze-to-Wheezy upgrade issues. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berl

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
rade (just in debian; not upstream). So yeah, I've been also through some pain and don't just rant here. Do you have a link? It's not that we're not taking complaints seriously. If there was actually a bug report and it, indeed, wasn't fixed then you're right to

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
bian has just chosen to stay with GNOME as the default desktop when performing the default installation as it has been like for quite some time. And, again, changing the default desktop is a no brainer: > update-alternatives --set x-session-manager /usr/bin/mate-session Adrian -- .'&#

Re: Debian/Wheezy general rant Was: mount point gets "(deleted)" / unable to unmount

2013-06-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ebian simply can't meet all needs with one standard shipping configuration. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 00

cc65 in non-free

2013-06-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
as we all know this declares such software as non-free, see point i. in [2]. Yet, I am wondering, would it still be legal to upload such a software package to the non-free section? Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://www.cc65.org/index.php#Copyright > [2] http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.

Bug#714058: ITP: cc65 -- Cross compiler and toolchain for 6502-based systems

2013-06-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: cc65 Version : 2.13.3 Upstream Author : Ullrich von Bassewitz * URL : http://www.cc65.org/ * License : zlib and non-free Programming Lang: C Description : Cross compiler

Re: Plan to release a gplv3 compliant debian-based release

2013-07-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
v2 only. That's a very big difference. I still don't get the point. Isn't there way more important stuff to do? Like these, for example: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/ Or these: http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz

Re: Plan to release a gplv3 compliant debian-based release

2013-07-04 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
f you want to express your opinion, please say something. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913

Re: Plan to release a gplv3 compliant debian-based release

2013-07-05 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ng on LKML :). A GPLv3 only Debian distribution is, in my opinion, about as useful as lobotomy performed with a bazooka. I chuckled :D. And I fully agree. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Fre

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-13 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
d-9 -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
g else than Linux is just simply false. upstart is (or is going to use) the prctl Linux system call and therefore no longer compatible with non-Linux kernels. Adrian > [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions#Respawning_user_jobs_and_PID_tracking -- .&#x

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-14 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
vice Managers" so try to avoid putting him in some fanbase camp please. You don't sound like you're not biased, however. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@phys

Re: openrc packaging status (Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports)

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/15/2013 01:37 PM, heroxbd wrote: I can visualize that within two months we will have a off-the-shelf OpenRC package working with initscripts/sysvinit vanilla offering modern features like cgroups, at users' choice. Good, I'll take your word on that. Adrian -- .''

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
hink we're at the mercy of a small group of people when using it. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F91

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
SDs do not provide a full POSIX environment (missing "waitid(2)" for example)." Cheers, Adrian > [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/RaringUpstartUserSessions#Disadvantages -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@d

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
nRC to be ever a viable alternative to systemd (or even upstart). It just lacks too much behind and would be a minor improvement over System V Init only. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin

Re: Systemd support in Debian packages: how to help

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
update systemd in Debian? I am eagerly waiting to try one of the recent versions of systemd, especially since I am having trouble with remote filessystems which Lennart claims to have been remedied in later versions of systemd. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :&

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
n. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@list

Re: Systemd support in Debian packages: how to help

2013-07-15 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/16/2013 01:03 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: Sorry that this takes a bit longer then expected, but packages based on v204 are in preparation and expect them soonish. Thanks for the update! Rock on! :) Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glau

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
A also has excellent support on their IRC channels. I have been able to solve any problem I had with it so far and in all cases it turned out to be a user error. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie U

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
. I understood it as a form of sarcasm. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCR

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
seless simply don't realize that there can be sound setups which are a little more sophisticated than just a single sound card and configuring these can be PITA when you don't have PA. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.o

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ot; setups. Secondly, I am not seeing PA imposed onto anyone, it's just the default setup as it's the sensible choice for installation on a modern desktop. If you don't like it, uninstall it. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub.

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/17/2013 05:40 PM, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:58:49 +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: Some sound cards expose two dozens or more ... usually underdocumented, if documented at all, ... The Fedora people had a very nice screen shot of the ALSA mixer back then which

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
aggerating sometimes. At least he isn't swearing as bad as Linus [1] ;). And, really, you shouldn't take that too serious. Adrian > [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/7/13/132 -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `.

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/17/2013 09:26 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:58:49AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: I am sorry, but in my eyes, people who claim that PulseAudio is useless simply don't realize that there can be sound setups which are a little more sophisticated than j

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
to start a flame war about bugs or unstable releases here. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
majority of our users, otherwise the pulseaudio package wouldn't be so popular [1]. Either all these people don't care about broken audio or PulseAudio *does* actually work the way it's supposed to work. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=puls

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
chnologies whereas the developers behind Fedora are very often upstream developers from GNOME, X.Org or the Kernel and just need a playground for their projects. Adrian > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Releases -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian

Re: PulseAudio

2013-07-17 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ument against PA. Nowadays, PA is very mature and useful and the majority of desktop users are using it without any problems, or, at least they're not raising their voices about problems. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debia

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
I don't even... Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
patch that people sent in. Just because an upstream project doesn't take your patches doesn't mean they don't like you but rather it should give you a hint to check whether your changes make sense. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian D

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/18/2013 02:28 PM, Simon McVittie wrote: On 18/07/13 12:12, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: And systemd has a graphical user interface? Yes, systemadm(1) in systemd-ui. It was recently split into a separate (upstream and Debian source) package. It's hardly comprehensive, but it e

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
which are very common nowadays on server farms. I have virtual machines running Debian unstable with systemd which boot in less than 4 seconds. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub.

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
rsion of upstart in Debian? Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913 -- To UNS

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
p and neither of them has the systemd-sysv package installed which, AFAIK, is required for compatibility reasons only. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
users in the end, but it turns out that according to your line of arguments, Debian is primarily made to fuel the egos of its developers. Guess, I am in the wrong project then. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `&#

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/19/2013 06:57 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: sysvinit148865 99.83% The reason might be that systemd does not conflict with sysvinit :). Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
er again? 1/ Don't put words in my mouth which I never used. 2/ Try to write more useful things. Doing personal attacks doesn't help. Says the guy who posted this to back up his chain of arguments: > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Talk:Comparison_of_init_systems Adrian -- .&#x

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 07/19/2013 07:47 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: On 07/19/2013 06:57 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: sysvinit148865 99.83% The reason might be that systemd does not conflict with sysvinit :). So are we playing word games now or trying to solve a

Re: Survey answers part 3: systemd is not portable and what this means for our ports

2013-07-19 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
13-07-04, but what happened!). Like several people pointed out before, the popcon entries for the Ubuntu upstart package pointed to Debian which at a particular time which resulted in wrong data being sent to popcon. The data that we have now is the actual data and it shows upstart isn't ve

Re: Custom Reload command/signal in upstart

2013-08-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> them come running when I or an attacker calls. Honestly, that doesn't even make any sense. Again, a service which is not running is reducing the probability of an attack, not vice versa. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...

Re: Custom Reload command/signal in upstart

2013-08-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Aug 23, 2013, at 8:45 PM, James McCoy wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 04:42:15PM -0400, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> Imagine there is a vulnerability in SSH which has not been fixed >> yet for whatever reason. Having SSH run in this situation all the >>

Re: Nitpicking in the NEW queue.

2013-09-02 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ts a package, there is a very good reason why he did so and there is certainly also a reasonable explanation that he provided. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik

Re: Submitting a package

2013-10-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
need feedback and help on that, you should resort to the mailing list and IRC channel of Debian Mentors. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Fr

Re: Submitting a package

2013-10-18 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
on OFTC. However, that's not the place to ask. Please seek advise on the Debian Mentors mailing list [2] and the #debian-mentors channel on OFTC. Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/projects/libtap/ > [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ -- .&#x

Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME

2013-10-23 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
l the > package without using it? Uh, didn't you indirectly state above that it does? I thought you actually have seen some problems with systemd being installed without using it. Cheers, Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian

Re: systemd effectively mandatory now due to GNOME

2013-10-24 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ependency does not seem to put any harm to the non-Linux kernels. Both kfreebsd-* and hurd-i386 have the latest version of gnome-settings-daemon in the archives. I haven't tested GNOME on kfreebsd-* for a long time now, but I assume that the package works if it has been successfully built, doe

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-29 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
do not think it's a good idea to post such flame baits, both the one from Lennart as well as Patrick's answer, to the tech-ctte bug report. It's not really helping in making an unbiased decision, is it? I think enough has been said on the topic already and the committee should mayb

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
the logic to start and control a daemon through a single piece of C code rather than writing more-or-less the same bash script for every single daemon on your machine. Adrian > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/557177 > [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrep

Re: Bug#727708: tech-ctte: Decide which init system to default to in Debian.

2013-10-31 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 10/31/2013 03:04 PM, Steven Chamberlain wrote: > On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 06:33:44 +0100 John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: >> messed up custom code may end up rendering your whole system unusable >> if you are smart enough to mess up an rm command. Just have a look >> at this won

Re: New ksh/ksh93 package, half the size, ten times the features!!!!

2013-11-06 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
) package would be very welcome... If you want feedback, we'll need the source package as well. No one can solely work on a provided binary package. Please upload the package to mentors and I'll have a look at it. I already sponsored several previous uploads of ksh. Adrian -- .&#x

Re: New ksh/ksh93 package, half the size, ten times the features!!!!

2013-11-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
and easy, so you don't lose time messing around with FTP servers and such. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 000

Re: Arguments for tech-ctte (Was: Proposal: let’s have a GR about the init system)

2013-11-08 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
tware is not. If that should be a dogma we should always stick to, we should immediately abandon all efforts to improve software and go back to Linux 0.01. > * Software that is not well commented is hard to understand and find > bugs Your last statement doesn't hold at all without

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
stance on this! Cheers, Adrian > [1] http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.5.33.html#ChangeLog -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org `. `' Freie Universitaet Berlin - glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de `-GPG: 62FF 8A75 84

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
somebody else does the work". This at >> the >> moment does not work, therefore a different strategy is needed. > > Please ask for lintian autotest like the gfdl one. I will implement gladly. Ouuh, that would be awesome! lintian kicks ass! Adrian -- .''`. John

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
ebian and not just about my particular packages and honestly, it bothers me to no end when I see packages which have dozens or hundreds of bugs unanswered because no one is stepping in to fix that. And I think Paul feels the same. I rather prefer to have a package removed than it being full of bu

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
timely manner because upstream doesn't really work anymore can't be justified with the argument that some people think the interface of XEmacs is prettier than the one of GNU emacs. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.org

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
t;> have dozens or hundreds of bugs unanswered because no one is stepping >> in to fix that. And I think Paul feels the same. I rather prefer to >> have a package removed than it being full of bugs, no matter whether >> it's a leaf package or not. > > Mark is indeed t

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-16 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 11/16/2013 08:37 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > >> Russ claimed that XEmacs has some features that emacs doesn't, however, >> he wasn't able to mention them. > > The one that bothered me the most when I switched to Emacs wa

Bug#686278: ITP: previous -- previous: NeXTcube/NeXTstation emulator

2012-08-30 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz * Package name: previous Version : svn Upstream Author : Gilles_Fétis * URL : http://previous.alternative-system.com * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C Description : previous

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

2012-08-31 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Aug 31, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 08/31/2012 11:39 AM, Serge wrote: >> Many (most?) major successes in IT history were about inventing a good >> standard communication interface to do things. IBM PC was successful >> because it could be assembled from standard easily access

Re: Bug#684396: ITP: openrc -- alternative boot mechanism that manages the services, startup and shutdown of a host

2012-08-31 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Aug 31, 2012, at 9:50 AM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > One good init system can answer all our needs, while four bad ones will > certainly not. I fully agree. The init system is a critical part of the operating system, so we shouldn't be messing around with it. Focus on the best solution, peri

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