minimizing downtime of a daemon

2006-07-18 Thread Justin Pryzby
One of the template NM questions is about "how to minimize the downtime of a daemon during package upgrade (in maintainer scripts)". ssh does an "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" in postinstall, which (with luck) means that there will be *no* downtime. This doesn't seem to be necessary for allowing ssh up

stopping daemons in prerm/preinst (and info doc registration)

2006-06-21 Thread Justin Pryzby
It is common for daemons to be stopped in pre{inst,rm}. This makes sense, but I wonder what the motivation is. I see two possible explanations: 1. Both postinst and prerm can often abstain from checking their arguments. prerm is called with any of: "remove [in-favour]" "[failed-]upgrade"

installing a package from "Config-files" state earlier than the most recent stable release

2006-06-14 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package upgrades skipping a stable release are advertised as "not guaranteed to work", which allows maintainers to drop support for upgrades from versions earlier than oldstable in their uploads to unstable. However I've never heard a requirement that package versions earlier than the most recent

/usr/share and -common pkgs

2006-06-12 Thread Justin Pryzby
-common packages are used to reduce the size of the archive; arch independant data need not be included in each of the 10+ arch-specific binary packages; only one package is needed. As expected, most of the contents of the -common packages are in /usr/share: time zgrep -Ff <(apt-cache search -n

early dpkg prototype implementation in perl

2006-05-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
Apparently dpkg was initially written/prototyped in perl; does there exist somewhere a copy of that implementation? Please Cc: me, Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

solicitation for DevRef suggestions for usertags users (Re: Bug#367876: developers-reference: please recommend usertags for mass bug filing)

2006-05-18 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 08:36:05AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 11:01:52AM -0400, Justin Pryzby wrote: > > Package: developers-reference > > Version: 3.3.7 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > IMO it is a best-practice to set usertags when fi

Re: Bits from the experimental autobuilder team (or: For Those Who Care About Experimental...)

2006-04-12 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 09:28:27PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Hello World, > > As many of you undoubtedly know, experimental is autobuilt these days. ... > However, it will only work if the build-dependencies are fully > specified; i.e., if a package 'foo' in experimental requires another >

solicitation for requests for inclusion in best-practice cronjob example script; was Re: Bug#356689: devscripts: please include a best-practice (example?) script

2006-03-13 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 05:23:13PM +, Julian Gilbey wrote: > On Mon, Mar 13, 2006 at 10:15:30AM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > > Package: devscripts > > Version: 2.9.15 > > Severity: wishlist > > > > I'd like to see a /u/s/d/devscripts/examples/dev-best-

Re: Automatic closing of bugs

2005-12-20 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sat, 3 Dec, 2005 at 17:15:58 +, Colin Watson wrote: > yaclc provides this. I also have bug #316385: "[process.in] allow for process.in commands to restrict themselves to a specific package (like service.in)". Presently the BTS doesn't seem to have this functionality, but it would probably n

urgency='low' testing propogation only 5 days for gtk+2.0?

2005-12-16 Thread Justin Pryzby
It is my understanding that an urgency='low' upload defines a 10 day delay in testing propogation, unless overridden by hints. However, yesterday's gtk+2.0 upload indications only a 5 day delay. Why? http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gtk+2.0.html Please Cc me. Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Is Lars Steinke MIA?

2005-12-10 Thread Justin Pryzby
On 2005-11-14, I filed grave bug #339056: "Library package fails to include shlibs file" [0] on package tktable-dev [1] , on which my package saods9 build-depends. I'm concerned about this bug because 1) its RC; 2) I haven't heard back in a month, despite pinging the maintainer last week; 3) My pa

Bug#341188: ITP: libwcs -- FITS world coordinate system support library

2005-11-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libwcs Version : 4.2 Upstream Author : Mark R. Calabretta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.atnf.csiro.au/people/mcalabre/WCS/ * License : GPL Description : FITS world coordinate system support library

Re: Bug#338203: 73 pkgs contain debhelper maintscript remnant (cruft?)

2005-11-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 12:57:40PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "This" refers to the #DEBHELPER# token. OH. Maybe I understand. The maintscripts of the packages in my list were probably initially dh_make templates, and the mai

Bug#338203: 73 pkgs contain debhelper maintscript remnant (cruft?)

2005-11-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: lintian Severity: wishlist I am including a list of 73 packages which happened to be installed on my laptop which contain a maintscript with the fragment: # dh_installdeb will replace this with shell code automatically # generated by other debhelper scripts. Maybe this is a debhelpe

Re: nonpublic shared libraries (repost; was: Re: dh_shlibdeps in = warnings; dh_shlibdeps out = cyclic dependency on self)

2005-09-13 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 06:12:02PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Justin Pryzby] > > In which case, should the shared libraries go into a separate package? > > I wouldn't bother unless there are multiple binary packages already > which will require the library, and

nonpublic shared libraries (repost; was: Re: dh_shlibdeps in = warnings; dh_shlibdeps out = cyclic dependency on self)

2005-09-11 Thread Justin Pryzby
meone here can provide insight, otherwise I guess I will try on -devel. On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:18:17PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 05:56:54PM +0200, Frank K?ster wrote: > >> Justin

inconsistent newlines while configuring packages?

2005-06-09 Thread Justin Pryzby
After doing a recent dist-upgrade, I see: $ fg sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Setting up libgphoto2-2 (2.1.5-6) ... Setting up libgphoto2-port0 (2.1.5-6) ... Setting up libxv-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-13) ... Setting up libxi-dev (4.3.0.dfsg.1-13) ... Setting up g++-3.3 (3.3.5-13) ... Setting up g++-3.4 (3

update-menus runs in the background?

2005-03-24 Thread Justin Pryzby
It seems that /usr/bin/update-menus now runs in the background. I ran sudo apt-et install glade, and after it finished, I ran ps -ef |tail -5, and the last commands running were update-menus.real, and install-menu. Is it supposed to be a background job, and, if so, why? Thanks, please Cc: me, Ju

Bug#295328: general: Help messages to stderr should be banned

2005-02-14 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: general Severity: wishlist I occasionally install a program and need to know how to use it as quickly as possible; for example, while reading through bug reports. So, I run foo --help. Sometimes, the help screen is more than 25 lines long, and it scrolls on past. So, I run foo --help |l

Bug#60810: contents.gz package

2005-01-15 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 07:12:05AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Justin Pryzby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Could we have a package which provides /usr/share/.../Contents.gz? > > Not sure that share/ is the right place. And as Matt said, versioning > >

copyright vs. license

2005-01-12 Thread Justin Pryzby
Hi all, I've been manually filing bugs against packages with improper copyright files, as per this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/03/msg02190.html I stopped when I started gettign consecutive bug numbers :) I've been using Severity: normal, although it is arguably a violati

Bug#289712: ITP: libncar-graphics -- scientific visualization suite from UCAR

2005-01-10 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libncar-graphics Version : 4.4.0 and counting, quickly Upstream Author : UCAR, C/O Mary Haley * URL : http://ngwww.ucar.edu/ng/ * License : GPL2 Description : scientific visualization suite from UCAR Graphi

Bug#289371: ITP: saods9 -- astronomical image tool

2005-01-08 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: saods9 Version : 3.0.3 Upstream Author : William Joye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://hea-www.harvard.edu/RD/ds9/ * License : GPL2 Description : astronomical image tool DS9 is an application for astrono

Bug#60810: contents.gz package

2005-01-03 Thread Justin Pryzby
Could we have a package which provides /usr/share/.../Contents.gz? Not sure that share/ is the right place. And as Matt said, versioning is a potential problem. But lintian (and others: apt-file) could depend on this package (say, debian-dist-contents). Justin

AIPS Part II

2004-11-05 Thread Justin Pryzby
Greetings, I mailed the list recently regarding my ITP AIPS: Astronomical Image Processing System. For anyone who might have considered sponsoring, here is some more info regarding its size. Source tar.gz: 67MB Initial .deb Size: 148MB Current .deb Size: 16MB arch dependent, 52MB arch independen

Bug#278868: ITP: aips -- Astronomical Image Processing System

2004-10-29 Thread Justin Pryzby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: aips Version : 20041029 Upstream Author : NRAO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.aoc.nrao.edu/aips/ * License : GPL Description : Astronomical Image Processing System from NRAO The Astronomical Image

d-i using kexec

2004-10-28 Thread Justin Pryzby
Has anybody ever considered the possibility of a 0-reboot installation? It seems that this should be possible with (or without?) kexec. I think the reason the installer presently reboots is to load the *real* kernel (which will be used during normal runtime) rather than the installer kernel. Reb