On Nov 21, Michael Stone wrote:
> How many long-running production systems do you think people have run
> usrmerge on? I'd guess close to zero, since there is no advantage whatsoever
Actually I have quite a lot personally, with exactly zero problems.
On some of them I also enjoy advantages of
On Nov 21, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I think there are some arguments to be made for just force-merging and
> moving on, but they're mostly "tidiness" arguments (letting everyone
No, they are not that at all. I have never argued about "tidiness", nor
did anybody else that is working to support
On Nov 20, Adam Borowski wrote:
If you are seriously concerned with the small issuses caused by the
transition to merged-/usr then I have a better proposal.
Plan C: just stop supporting non-merged-/usr systems since these
problems are caused by having to support both, and there is no real
On Nov 19, Matthias Klumpp wrote:
> I wonder how this was handled on other distributions when they made
> the change - even if the change was applied on all systems, there must
> have been at least one release where both modes were supported.
No, Fedora and RHEL just switched overnight.
On Nov
On Nov 19, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> GNU R has long been relying on sed, tar, bzip2, ... and many more base
> tools. No issues there. Generally looked for in /bin and found there.
Actually this is the root problem: policy says that packages should use
the $PATH to search for commands, but your
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On Nov 12, bugs-deb...@antipoul.fr wrote:
> modules. As far as I know, some applications are not able to run on PHP
> 7.3, so supporting PHP 7.2 in buster could be a good idea.
This is not going to happen for reasons that have been explained
multiple times, even if everybody knows that if you
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On Oct 24, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> That is sort-of what is happening for neomutt (20171215+dfsg.1-1)
> at least, it reports
>
>sh: 1: gpg: not found
This looks like a very clear error message to me.
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On Oct 23, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > I have sympathy with that position, but in which case PGP should be
> > disabled by default in the /etc/Muttrc files too.
> Wouldn't it make more sense for mutt to just go «oh, no GPG installed,
> let's note that there are signatures here, but they can't be
On Oct 23, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Both of Depends and Recommends in this case have drawbacks. It's a
> matter of weighing them up and considering their likelyhoods on a case
> by case basis. In this case, the maintainer must weigh the experience of
> users who may install mutt without gnupg
On Oct 21, Gerardo Ballabio wrote:
> sto cominciando a contribuire a Debian (vedi bug #898506). C'e'
> qualcuno in zona Milano/Monza che potrebbe firmare la mia chiave GPG?
Sì, ma dal lato opposto:
http://www.wikicloud.it/Datacenter/Milano/Direzioni
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On Oct 20, Paul Wise wrote:
> It might be feasible to introduce nosystemd build profiles to Debian
> source packages and then create a shed/bikeshed/PPA (once that
> infrastructure exists) that contains rebuilds using that build
> profile. That would allow Devuan's libsystemd stripping to be
>
On Oct 17, Holger Levsen wrote:
> yes, but when using your repo one has to add your key to the keys apt
> trusts, and this is something completly different than using proper
> backports.
Well... I trust much more Ondrej's archive since over the years it has
proven its quality and scope, while
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On Sep 08, Sean Whitton wrote:
> The current policy protects maintainers and users of less popular
> packages from feeling that their package is less important in Debian,
> just because something else that is more popular comes along and happens
> to use the same name.
Yes, and the I do not
On Aug 19, Alec Leamas wrote:
> For me, it's natural to package this header in a opencpn-dev package.
> However, when confronted with a "citation needed"[2] I don't find
> anything written on this. I see three possibilities:
I think that distributing it would be useful since it would help users
On Aug 13, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> To be honest, I don't like the idea of making our infrastructure as a
> project rely on closed and proprietary systems like Google Cloud. Isn't
> it important to us as a project anymore to run our infrastructure on
> free software and under our own control? [1]
On Aug 05, "Theodore Y. Ts'o" wrote:
> 1) Am I right in understanding that after modifying or adding any
>systemd unit or timer files, I must run "systemctl daemon-reload"?
Yes.
> 2) How is this supposed to be done as part of a debian package
>install? Should the package maintainer
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On Jul 20, Guillem Jover wrote:
> > And this means that perl (a libcrypt dependency) would be broken between
> > 1 and 5 (or maybe 1 and 3): is this ever going to work?
>
> Given that this new package is going to replace a part of glibc, it
> will need to behave as if it was part of the
On Jul 20, Philipp Kern wrote:
> I think it's odd to say "here, I'm packaging up a replacement for your
> library, but I'm not going to coordinate with you" when we are preparing
> a (somewhat) coherent distribution, so I don't think that option should
> be discarded. (Unless you have a
On Jul 20, Philipp Kern wrote:
> Make sure that glibc splits out libcrypt into its own package, have libc6
> depend on it and then provide libcrypt1? (Because it's really providing
> libcrypt's ABI from another package.) Versioning might be tricky, though.
At some point glibc will just stop
On Jul 18, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Some day it may replace crypt(3), currently provided by glibc:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Replace_glibc_libcrypt_with_libxcrypt
I tried creating a package which would divert libc's libcrypt, but it
appears to be much harder than I t
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I intend to package the new version of libxcrypt, which will replace the
orphaned libxcrypt source package.
Some day it may replace crypt(3), currently provided by glibc:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes
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On Jun 04, Philipp Kern wrote:
> Is this synchronous, or does one also need a call to "udevadm settle"? I
> had a problem with kpartx where the loop devices were not available
> after the package was installed, likely because of a race. I wonder if a
Yes, events in udev are asynchronous no
On Jun 01, Bastien ROUCARIÈS wrote:
> The license choosen by adobe is unfortunalty apache 2 and thus not compatible
> with GPL2 only.
In which cases this would be relevant?
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On Apr 27, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> Our major use case is cloud initial setup, image building, CI, buildds, all
> of which do not require any syncs, and can safely use eatmydata, for example;
> hence the enormous speed up.
I do not believe that it would be wise to optimize
On Apr 08, Adam Borowski wrote:
> While I need online music services about as much as I need an additional
> hole in the head, this raises a good point: why do music players shipped in
> Debian default to grabbing lyrics, "LastFM stats", tags, and what not, even
> when
On Mar 28, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Is this how most people interpret wontfix? I'd usually interpreted it as
> an indication of policy rather than priority: "I acknowledge that this
> is a bug, but it isn't going to change, even if you provide a patch".
This is how I see it:
On Feb 21, Antonio Terceiro wrote:
> Maybe the proposal needs to be clarified, but my understanding was that
> some companies are willing to fund a longer LTS for a restricted set of
> packages and architectures¹, but that the product of that would continue
> to be available
On Jan 25, Lionel Debroux wrote:
> Several days ago, jmm from the security team suggested that I start a
> discussion on debian-devel about Berkeley DB, which has known security
> issues, because doing so may enable finding a consensus on how to move
Can you clarify the
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On Jan 07, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > duplicates that code. The correct response to a patch to build without
> > libsystemd is "no, that's what libsystemd exists for".
> Does this approach also work for non-Linux ports?
Yes, as long as somebody would bother to update the
On Jan 06, Simon Richter wrote:
> As it is now, we have a lot of people who are maintaining their own
> packages outside of Debian. Can we get enough support to reintegrate
> both the people and the code?
I will ignore for the time being the reasons why these packages are
On Jan 04, Hleb Valoshka <375...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "anti-systemd zealots" Steve, when did you join LP fanclub? When
> Ubuntu decided to throw away your upstart and use systemd instead?
Classy...
> Do we have runtime systemd detection in all software linked against
> libsystemd so it will work
On Jan 03, Andrew Shadura wrote:
> Do we really need systemd-less builds? I'm not convinced this is
> something relevant to Debian.
Not at all.
This would be a lot of work for the benefit of a tiny audience: the
disturbed people who hate systemd so much that they cannot
On Dec 31, Simon Richter wrote:
> > There are some cases when using sysvinit is preferred over systemd.
[...]
> These are running stretch, and I would like to upgrade them without
> breaking my existing scripts, which assume sysvinit with runlevels
> (including one-shot
On Dec 30, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
> AFAIK there is no way drop some capabilities with systemd geared linux
> containers while it is possible with sysvinit.
Here it is: no CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
# cat /etc/systemd/nspawn/secure.nspawn
[Exec]
DropCapability=CAP_AUDIT_CONTROL
On Dec 30, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > Anyway, looking forward to your map thing :-)
> First draft is on https://salsa.debian.org/salsa/AliothRewriter
Can you first apply some regexp-based mappings, like collab-maint to
Debian? This would automatically solve most cases.
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On Dec 29, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Please propose a solution for reusing the name without breaking renamed and
> not yet migrated repos.
Ignore the renamed repositories: if somebody renamed them then they
obviously expected to have to update the VCS URLs anyway.
Switch the
On Dec 28, Pali Rohár wrote:
> I think it could make sense to remove init script and replace it by new
> udev rule and move both (udev rule and pktsetup) into own binary package
> pktsetup.
Yes: udev is de facto mandatory nowadays if you have anything dynamic,
so do now
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On Dec 26, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Unfortunately that is something that has to be done. At least unless someone
> wants to write some kind of redirection map.
I am really surprised that this issue was not considered: I expect that
git hosting is by far the most common use
On Dec 25, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> Every user can create projects in their own namespace (similar to GitHub).
What about git repository URLs?
I am not looking forward to update all Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser headers
currently referencing anonscm.debian.org.
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On Dec 04, Michael Lustfield wrote:
> As long as I avoid Nvidia, I usually have excellent luck finding systems
> (specifically laptops) that work well without anything from non-free. With
> servers, I usually need something for the networking drivers but nothing else.
On Dec 04, Russ Allbery wrote:
> +1. I think firmware is something conceptually different than non-free
> software in general, and it would be good to give users a simple way to
> choose to enable non-free firmware without enabling other non-free
> software.
Me too.
Mostly
On Nov 28, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> It's just a bad idea of a security model that implements ad-hoc
> and mostly path based restrictions instead of an actually verified
> security model. Using that by default makes it much harder to actually
> use a real MAC based security model,
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On Oct 03, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> So, contrib is _explicitly_ meant for software that does not meet the
> DFSG, not for random stuff that cannot be packaged for convenience or
> different issues.
I am almost sure that when I joined the project contrib was also the
place for
On Sep 19, Xavier wrote:
> So FastCGI application could have dependency on it.
How would this work?
The packages that could use it would still need to ship a configuration
file for every web server since there is no common API like
/usr/lib/cgi-bin/ .
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On Sep 14, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> The Pine64 [6] is another alternative, based on a mobile CPU. It's
> therefore got limited RAM and I/O. Upstreaming has taken a while, but
> is getting there in current kernel releases. U-Boot head will work on
> the board, including the UEFI
On Sep 09, Sean Whitton wrote:
> 1. Is the 'should not' for the /etc/default practice too strong? I
No, because it cannot be supported in a sane way by systemd units.
It should even be "must not".
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On Aug 16, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> The only thing you would achieve would be to force people to move
> away from Debian to distributions that are still able to interact
> with devices running ancient and highly insecure Android firmwares.
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On Aug 12, "Dr. Bas Wijnen" wrote:
> Which would be a great example of software that is free interacting with
> software that is non-free. Thus the package with this as its main purpose
> should live in contrib. There's nothing wrong with that.
There is no such requirement
On Aug 11, Marco d'Itri <m...@linux.it> wrote:
> but I see on your link that Android pre-5.x still has a ~25% market
> share, so unless it will drop a lot in the next year I do not think that
> we can cut them off from Debian-based web servers.
OTOH if the PCI council says tha
On Aug 09, Sven Hartge wrote:
> Looking at https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html
> there is still a marketshare of ~25% of smartphones based on Android 5.0
> and 5.1 and 16% based on 4.4. So this change would (at the moment) block
> ~40% of Android
On Aug 07, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> Thats nice for any environment where on can freely define that
> everything works like this.
>
> Unfortunately real world doesnt work like it.
I think that I live in a real enough world (commercial web hosting), and
my customers have been
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On Jul 10, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Predictability is important, thus let's actually have _predictable_
> interface names. The kernel default, eth0 and wlan0, is good enough for
> most users, why not keep that? Even just ignoring the issue completely
Because you cannot know
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On Jun 06, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> For a number of years, we've been linking to the amd64/i386 netinst
> installer image from the front page. I think it's time to just switch
> that to just an amd64 image for stretch now. The vast majority of the
> machines out there are now
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On May 16, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Yes, that's why I suggested Flatpak. It would also be possible to use
> a long bwrap command-line - that's what Flatpak does internally.
> One day I should try making game-data-packager's games (mostly the quake
> family) use bwrap like that.
On Apr 23, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> The "packages drop files in /usr/*, sysadmins override in /etc" way of
> doing things is prevalent in the RPM world; in Debian, however, we
> traditionally have packages drop files in /etc, and let the maintainer
While this scheme was
On Apr 05, gregor herrmann wrote:
> > Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after
> > suspend, and when this happen I can only reboot it because it will keep
> > waking up again after every attempt at suspending.
> The last time I had this issue, `echo
On Apr 05, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> I don't trust Linux enough to put my laptop into the bag not checking that
> it is indeed suspended.
Indeed, about every month my Latitude immediately wakes up after
suspend, and when this happen I can only reboot it because it will keep
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On Feb 24, Sven Hoexter wrote:
> To be honest I've the feeling that we're doing a disservice to our
> users when we release stretch with the current defaults. Putting
I amazed by this decision: this is the kind of thing that makes people
not take Debian seriously.
This
On Feb 21, Patrick Schleizer wrote:
> At the moment it looks like there is no convention for where server
> applications are configured to listen by default, on localhost vs. all
> interfaces. Looks like deciding that is up to the upstream author of the
>
On Feb 13, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I didn't manage to get around to this earlier but I wonder if it would
> still be a good idea, even for stretch.
Yes please.
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On Dec 26, Martín Ferrari wrote:
> I am currently the Debian maintainer for net-tools, but note that I have
> not forked, nor I am developing net-tools. Upstream got active again,
> somehow.
Thank you for your clarification.
I think that we have a consensus about this: can
On Dec 29, Simon Richter wrote:
> As long as there is still a way to have working "netstat" and "ifconfig"
> commands, that is fine.
I do not think that anybody sane wants to remove the package from the
archive: the idea is to stop using it in script in other packages since
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