Re: Help in gcc-4.0.x transition issue

2005-08-26 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Andreas Tille wrote: > /home/tillea/debian-maintain/packages/arb/arb-0.0.20050506/INCLUDE/awt_canvas.hxx:67: > error: 'AWT_canvas' has not been declared > make[2]: *** [AW_preset.o] Error 1 > make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs > > > I guess it is a really small problem for people with C

Re: WebSVN of svn.debian.org uses wrong encoding

2005-08-24 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Frans Pop wrote: > Who cares what default it sets or not sets? The point is that it has no > way to determine the correct encoding for files in the svn repo. That is not true. For file that have the svn:mime-type property, it might be possible. For example, if the mime-type indicates it is XML, t

Re: python's gettext.gettext broken, use gettext.lgettext

2005-08-08 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Which installs ugettext as '_' function into the __builtin__ namespace. > That makes _ return Python 'unicode' objects, which is what programs > should be using internally anyway. > > This is harder if you're trying to localize a module since then you > don't want to screw w

Re: aspell upgrade woes

2005-07-22 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Brian Nelson wrote: > OK, very well then, I'll undo the GCC 4 transition for libaspell15. Isn't there still a binary-compatibility issue here? I thought that in an application, there must only be one version of libstdc++, directly or indirectly. Otherwise, during runtime, symbols may resolve from

Re: How to Avoid GPL Issue

2003-06-29 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
G. C. wrote: Is there any approach that we can avoid publicizing the third party code while porting to Linux? Do we need to write some shim layer code in Linux kernel to interface the third party code? How can we do that? Is there any document or samples? In general, this is not possible. It is

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-26 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: The patch has been already written: http://lwn.net/Articles/8634/ I'm sure theere's a better link, but that's the best I could extract out of google without resorting to bribery :-) This patch is insufficient. It does not implement xaddl. Regards, Martin

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-23 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
John Goerzen wrote: Nobody has even explained WHY we have this issue. The summary posted on the bug report just said that there is a problem with atomicity.h, not what the problem is or why it exists. Just look at the file for yourself. It is easy enough to see: it uses inline assembly that is on

Re: Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-22 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
John Goerzen wrote: While we're at it, I fail to see the logic of removing support for i386 while we still support m68k. Because there is a bug that only applies to i386 (see the subject). I wish everybody would focus on fixing this specific bug. There may be many good or bad things that can be s

Bug#198158: architecture i386 isn't i386 anymore

2003-06-22 Thread "Martin v. Löwis"
John Goerzen wrote: As I say this, I'm sure people can say the same about i486 and even i386 machines. Why exactly do we need to remove this support? Read the bug report with the number you put in your Subject. Regards, Martin

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-30 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Arnd Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It would surely be nice to see performance numbers from actual > applications. After all, the applications are normally doing > some things besides low level atomic operations. Indeed, it would be interesting to find out how often applications invoke th

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-29 Thread &quot;Martin v. Löwis"
Morgon Kanter wrote: Not starting a flamewar here, but in all honesty, who is going to try to use KDE on a 386 anyway? Actually, while we are on that, who is even going to try to use X at all on a 386? Probably nobody will. IMO, it is the worse that the KDE binaries have to be built for i386 comp

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Arnd Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > a) The patch gets merged upstream. It won't hurt anyone who is > building i486+ optimized binaries and fixes a real bug. Upstream won't accept the patch, because of the performance penalty. Even if upstream accepts the patch, that won't be before

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-29 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Arnd Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No, look at my patch again. If you build without i486 optimization, > the compiler will see only the extern declaration for > __exchange_and_add(). I see. What sonames do you suggest to give to the two copies of libstdc++? You once said you'd call them

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Arnd Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They have to be compiled for i386, as they have always been. > If they were compiled for i486, they would not run on i386 > anyway, with or without the bug. But if they are compiled for i386, they won't run on other Linux systems, thus losing binary com

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-28 Thread Martin v. Löwis
Arnd Bergmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Right. Any reason why the patch below should not work? Yes, plenty. > When __exchange_and_add is an extern function, the implementation > does not matter to applications using it. Binaries optimized for > i486 or higher can still use the inline functi

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread &quot;Martin v. Löwis"
Matthias Urlichs wrote: Hmm. Did anybody measure the performance increase in a "typical" userspace-CPU-intensive program when built with i586-only options (as opposed to "optimize for i586+ but generate compatible code)? In the current issue, it is not that much a question of performance, but of co

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread &quot;Martin v. Löwis"
Lars Wirzenius wrote: So using a 386 as a router and firewall, which it is perfectly capable of hardwarewise Is that really the case? a) Is anybody actually doing this, today? b) Do you then have 10MB or 100MB ethernet in that computer? Can you even put a 100MB ethernet card into the computer?

Re: i386 compatibility & libstdc++

2003-04-25 Thread &quot;Martin v. Löwis"
Andreas Metzler wrote: Does anybody know how/if other Distributions reacted to this issue? Suse, Redhat et.al. afaik have been using gcc-3.x for more than one release. They just don't support i386 anymore. http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/system_requirements.html http://www.re

Re: [Testing] Why isn't a52dec updating

2002-12-09 Thread Martin v . Löwis
- Original Message - From: "Mikael Hedin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: linux.debian.devel Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:00 PM Subject: [Testing] Why isn't a52dec updating > I see that the testing scripts are running again. Now I wonder why > a52dec isn't going in. In update_out