Re: Bug#621833: System users: removing them

2011-05-29 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:09:40PM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: (culled cc list of a few people I know read -devel) Roger Leigh wrote: Given the need to consider unlocking as well as locking, I'm not sure it's worth adding special support to deluser: the typical logic used to create

Accepted sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.7 (source all amd64)

2011-05-20 Thread Roger Leigh
maintainers pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: initscripts - scripts for initializing and shutting down the system sysv-rc- System-V-like runlevel change mechanism sysvinit - System-V-like init utilities sysvinit-utils - System-V-like

Accepted schroot 1.4.22-1 (source all amd64)

2011-05-15 Thread Roger Leigh
Maintainer: Debian buildd-tools Developers buildd-tools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: dchroot- Execute commands in a chroot environment dchroot-dsa - Execute commands in a chroot environment libsbuild-dev - development files for the Debian

/run in *unstable*: migration of /lib/init/rw, /dev/.*

2011-05-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 07:28:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/RunDirectory With the upload of initramfs-tools (0.99) to unstable, we're now ready to upload sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.6 to unstable The upload has been done and you should find yourself with a /run

Accepted sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.6 (source all amd64)

2011-05-14 Thread Roger Leigh
maintainers pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: initscripts - scripts for initializing and shutting down the system sysv-rc- System-V-like runlevel change mechanism sysvinit - System-V-like init utilities sysvinit-utils - System-V-like

Re: /run in experimental

2011-05-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:40:13PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:23:10AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Hi folks, An update on /run: sysvinit/initscripts 2.88dsf-13.4 is now available in experimental. If you haven't tested it yet, now would be a good time before

Re: /run in experimental

2011-05-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 09:07:04PM +0200, Stefan Lippers-Hollmann wrote: Hi On Friday 13 May 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:40:13PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:23:10AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: [...] With the upload of initramfs-tools (0.99

Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-12 Thread Roger Leigh
and read_fstab in /lib/init/mount-functions.sh. If it's not working for you, then it's possible that the fstab entry for / doesn't match. Might be worth sourcing and running read_fstab by hand to see if it's pulling out the options correctly. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-05-10 Thread Roger Leigh
--it'll just take a bit of careful planning so all the bits fall into place in the correct order. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public

Re: Writing to /etc/ from a privileged UI

2011-05-09 Thread Roger Leigh
to using their tool-of-choice for making changes. Other than this usage, writing to /etc is bad practice. IMO it should be considered RC buggy for wheezy, and banned outright--it's fundamentally incompatible with a r/o rootfs. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux

Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-07 Thread Roger Leigh
fstab to be applied to the root mount. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail

Bug#625538: general: Monitor turns off even if in gnome-screensaver and gnome-power i disalbe automatic turning off.

2011-05-04 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: wanna-build / how to sort packages on buildds?

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Leigh
resource usage, I'll be happy to add them to the sbuild summary stats. Actually measuring those might be a bit trickier though, especially on machines running parallel builds. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Leigh
to work sensibly by default, and fix up the client code relying on the assumptions made by the library so that they can be removed and/or made non-default. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Leigh
on the command-line. This mechanism might be a somewhat simpler and more flexible alternative to 99builddsourceslist for the general case as well. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Re: PPA

2011-05-01 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-28 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:09:48PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: libgcrypt has some horrendous bugs which upstream refuse to fix, for example the broken behaviour relating to setuid binaries discussed previously here, and the hard coded behaviour

Re: /run in experimental

2011-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 10:23:10AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Hi folks, An update on /run: sysvinit/initscripts 2.88dsf-13.4 is now available in experimental. If you haven't tested it yet, now would be a good time before it goes into unstable. Additionally, if you wish to transition your

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: /run in experimental

2011-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 02:10:27PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Roger Leigh] This also permits the mount options for filesystems mounted in the initramfs (e.g. /dev, /run, /sys, /proc etc.) to be set in /etc/fstab; the filesystems are remounted with the options from /etc/fstab

Accepted sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.5 (source all amd64)

2011-04-27 Thread Roger Leigh
maintainers pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: initscripts - scripts for initializing and shutting down the system sysv-rc- System-V-like runlevel change mechanism sysvinit - System-V-like init utilities sysvinit-utils - System-V

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-17 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Apr 17, 2011 at 07:44:55AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Edward Allcutt edw...@allcutt.me.uk writes: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 05:58:19PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: I suggest: - on upgrade, bind mount or symlink /run/init - /lib/init

/run in experimental

2011-04-17 Thread Roger Leigh
, and this results in a partially functional udev. Note that for the networking, an ifdown and ifup of the device does work around the issue. For other devices, probably just a modprobe. If there's anyone familiar with udev who could take a look at it, I'd be very grateful. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 09:35:53AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:41:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: If it wasn't already clear, having /tmp as a tmpfs

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 09:58:58PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 16 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var

Re: Only forbid use of old alternatives to /run in wheezy+1?

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
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Accepted sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.3 (source all amd64)

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
maintainers pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: initscripts - scripts for initializing and shutting down the system sysv-rc- System-V-like runlevel change mechanism sysvinit - System-V-like init utilities sysvinit-utils - System-V

Accepted sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.4 (source all amd64)

2011-04-16 Thread Roger Leigh
maintainers pkg-sysvinit-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: initscripts - scripts for initializing and shutting down the system sysv-rc- System-V-like runlevel change mechanism sysvinit - System-V-like init utilities sysvinit-utils - System-V

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
to func‐ tion. -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

/run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:20:45PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:32:51PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Julien Cristau | On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 16:20:10 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: | | Given that Fedora

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:55:20PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 08:19:38PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I think this should be fixed now; could you possibly try again (you'll need a clean vserver environment that hasn't been upgraded before). The updated packages

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
. Could you rephrase it more clearly? Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: This I really don't get. There was no error reported, and we're using this logic: if [ ! -L /var/run ] [ -d /var/run ]; then echo guest environment detected: Migrating /var/run

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:39:40PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 02:28:35PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 12:07:37PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/sysvinit_2.88dsf-13.3.dsc Changes since last time

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 04:41:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: If it wasn't already clear, having /tmp as a tmpfs is a /configurable option/, and it is /not/ the default (except when root is read-only (ro) in fstab). I hope you check

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:26:59PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 01:38:34PM +0100, Edward Allcutt wrote: Your assumption is correct in that this is a fallback. This is the special case for chroots, also co-opted for vservers

Re: /run support for wheezy: final (I hope) call for testing

2011-04-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 08:59:01PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, Roger Leigh wrote: { find var/run/ ! -type d -print0; \ find var/lock/ ! -type d -print0; } | xargs -0r $_CHROOT_SH rm I'm afraid this will need fixing in util-vserver(?) though. We

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44:08AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 10:32:42 +0100 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: Following

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 02:13:57PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote: On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:15:07 +0100, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:44:08AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 4:20 AM, Karl Goetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: On Wed, 13 Apr

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:29:31AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:22:33PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:29:16AM +0200, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: One reason for doing this is to have a single writable mount on the system, which might be useful for tiny systems with minimal resources, where root is r/o. On such a system

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:01:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: With the transition to /run and /run/lock as tmpfs filesystems, it would be desirable to provide sensible default size limits. Currently, we default to the tmpfs

Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
options are visible to the admin. So other than choosing sensible defaults for /etc/default/rcS and /etc/default/tmpfs, I think this is ready to be deployed. Many thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's not the default). I would very much appreciate it if anyone could take the time to install the new initscripts and test

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:35:24PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 02:24:30PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
, but they may well not be optimal, and I'll be happy to adjust them as needed. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848

Re: Request for testing: /run and initscripts

2011-04-13 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 03:20:38PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 01:49:15PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I have now implemented this (though it's not the default). I would very much appreciate it if anyone could take the time to install the new initscripts and test

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:01:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: With the transition to /run and /run/lock as tmpfs filesystems, it would be desirable to provide sensible default size limits. Currently, we default to the tmpfs default of ½ RAM. But with several tmpfs filesystems, this does have

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:01:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: With the transition to /run and /run/lock as tmpfs filesystems, it would be desirable to provide sensible default size limits. Currently, we default to the tmpfs

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:12:21PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: Hi there! On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:38:03 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: Josh Triplett suggested that we could use a single tmpfs on /run and have the rest as symlinks into /run, with potentially a separate tmpfs for user-writable

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:44:54AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 12:38:03PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:01:42PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: With the transition to /run and /run/lock as tmpfs filesystems, it would be desirable to provide

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 09:07:48PM +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:47:35PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: With the patch as it stands at present, RAMRUN is deprecated. /run is always a tmpfs; RUN_SIZE will set its size, as before. Hmm, just thinking... vServers don't

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:19:59PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 07:44:54AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: If the problem is that multiple tmpfs are mounted and each can expand to half-of-RAM, either reduce the number of tmpfses presented (as discussed), or limit

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:08:30PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Roger Leigh | I think that if we have /run/lock, /run/shm makes sense (how different | are locks and POSIX semaphores? They are just a different type of | lock (broadly). And shared memory is ephemeral state, just like

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:22:00PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2011-04-12, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: Having multiple tmpfses with the kernel defaults means that a user or badly written program could intentionally or accidentally lock up the machine by using all available

Re: Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-12 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:35:37PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: Hi there! On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 20:47:35 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 08:12:21PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:38:03 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: Josh Triplett suggested that we could use

Default size limits for /run (/var/run) and /run/lock (/var/lock)

2011-04-11 Thread Roger Leigh
services etc.) for context. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc

Re: System users: removing them

2011-04-09 Thread Roger Leigh
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Please do not use /run yet

2011-04-06 Thread Roger Leigh
for a few days longer until initscripts is uploaded! Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your

Re: Please do not use /run yet

2011-04-06 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:54:53AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: I'm just mentioning this here because udev started to use /run before we had completed our work, and without a versioned dependency, causing breakage. If you are planning on using /run, please hold fire for a few days longer until

Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?

2011-04-05 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 09:36:14AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 05:59:51PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:04:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: What do others think of moving

Accepted sbuild 0.62.2-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-05 Thread Roger Leigh
...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: buildd - Daemon for automatically building Debian binary packages from Deb libsbuild-perl - Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources sbuild - Tool for building Debian binary packages

Re: Moving bash from essential/required to important?

2011-04-04 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-04-03 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 01:10:29PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:20:45PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: 1) /etc/init.d/mountall.sh is broken for some reason. The mount -a invocation fails. Not because it fails

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-04-03 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:59:43PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: Both of these issues were due to /etc/mtab being inconsistent with reality. I've now corrected the code to make domtab() behave identically to domount() to ensure

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-04-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:20:45PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:32:51PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Julien Cristau | On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 16:20:10 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: | | Given that Fedora

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-04-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 02:33:44PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:20:45PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:32:51PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Julien Cristau | On Wed, Mar 30, 2011

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-04-01 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 04:06:16PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: Hi there! On Fri, 01 Apr 2011 15:33:44 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote: Patches filed against base-files and initscripts in #620157 and #620191. Test packages here: http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/run/ (tested in an amd64 kvm VM

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-31 Thread Roger Leigh
be until after /var is mounted. Can't dynamically added entried be added to /var/lib/wrap/hosts.* (for example) and then libwrap can be patched to read both locations, allowing for static configuration in /etc, and dynamic added/removed under /var. -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux

/run support for wheezy?

2011-03-30 Thread Roger Leigh
Given that Fedora are adopting /run, and it has been something we have wanted in the past, is anyone working on implementing /run in Debian? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/146976 https://lwn.net/Articles/436012/ Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-03-30 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 05:39:13PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Julien Cristau | On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 16:20:10 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: | | Given that Fedora are adopting /run, and it has been something | we have wanted in the past, is anyone working on implementing | /run

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Roger Leigh
in packages which are installable on old-style split systems, e.g. when generating shlibs files etc. I'm sure I'll have more to come! Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Re: /run support for wheezy?

2011-03-30 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:32:51PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Tollef Fog Heen tfh...@err.no writes: ]] Julien Cristau | On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 16:20:10 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: | | Given that Fedora are adopting /run, and it has been something | we have wanted

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-03-30 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 04:39:30PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Roger Leigh] As a followup, I would like to get the UTF-8 codeset and collation hardcoded in libc6 directly and sharable by all UTF-8 locales to reduce startup time and needless duplication Collation is not just

Re: Meeting Minutes, FTPMaster meeting March 2011

2011-03-27 Thread Roger Leigh
also have a use of binary-all dist in sbuild-db (an experimental wanna-build replacement using PostgreSQL 9.0), just for the record. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Accepted sbuild 0.62.1-1 (source all amd64)

2011-03-21 Thread Roger Leigh
-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: buildd - Daemon for automatically building Debian binary packages from Deb libsbuild-perl - Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources sbuild - Tool for building Debian binary packages

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-03-17 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 08:31:13AM +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi, just as a reminder: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net (16/03/2011): OK. I think this is the only known discrepancy between the two resolvers. Given that we now routinely build using minimal clean (cloned) chroots

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-03-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 01:07:19AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael

Accepted sbuild 0.62.0-1 (source all powerpc)

2011-03-16 Thread Roger Leigh
-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: buildd - Daemon for automatically building Debian binary packages from Deb libsbuild-perl - Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources sbuild - Tool for building Debian binary packages

Accepted schroot 1.4.21-1 (source all amd64)

2011-03-11 Thread Roger Leigh
Maintainer: Debian buildd-tools Developers buildd-tools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: dchroot- Execute commands in a chroot environment dchroot-dsa - Execute commands in a chroot environment libsbuild-dev - development files for the Debian

Removal of wanna-build from sbuild

2011-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
people have it installed, and 10 have ever used it. Would migrating to wanna-build.git be realistic for these users? Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Re: Removal of wanna-build from sbuild

2011-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:24:25PM +, Hector Oron wrote: Hello Roger, 2011/3/10 Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net: This mail is really just to find out: is anyone actually using the wanna-build package in the archive?  popcon indicates that a few people have it installed, and 10

Re: Removal of wanna-build from sbuild

2011-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
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Re: new scripts and patches for devscripts

2011-03-08 Thread Roger Leigh
. Rewriting them to get them included in devscripts is too much work without benefit. devscripts would depend on python then. Most of the scripts are short. Rewriting would be fairly simple, and may be beneficial in removing the Ubuntu-specific bits. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh

Re: Speeding up dpkg, a proposal

2011-03-02 Thread Roger Leigh
snapshots. It would be great if there was a solution to this problem; is anyone running Btrfs as a root filesystem who has any suggestions? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http

Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-28 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 03:36:47PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:08:18PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: I disagree here. Alternatives in build-* relationships *are* mentioned by policy. In fact

Accepted schroot 1.4.20-1 (source all amd64)

2011-02-28 Thread Roger Leigh
Maintainer: Debian buildd-tools Developers buildd-tools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: dchroot- Execute commands in a chroot environment dchroot-dsa - Execute commands in a chroot environment libsbuild-dev - development files for the Debian

Re: What's up with buildd logs?

2011-02-26 Thread Roger Leigh
with the CGI scripts, but I /think/ that one is an older version. These two do show me the current version: https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=insighttoolkit https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=insighttoolkitsuite=sid Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 10:45:06AM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:40:52PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: From discussion on IRC earlier this evening, it looks like the most pragmatic approach will be to get the apt and aptitude sbuild resolvers to strip the alternatives

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-23 Thread Roger Leigh
much so. This is why library transitions need coordination, since they have distribution-wide impact. This is also a good example of why we should aim to only have one major version of each library in use at one time. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux

Accepted sbuild 0.61.0-1 (source all)

2011-02-23 Thread Roger Leigh
-tools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org Changed-By: Roger Leigh rle...@debian.org Description: buildd - Daemon for automatically building Debian binary packages from Deb libsbuild-perl - Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources sbuild - Tool for building Debian binary

Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 07:42:32PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: Hi everyone, Roger, Roger Leigh has filed a few bug reports related to how the buildd's resolver (either internal or any of the new ones: apt{,itude}) and I'm not sure I quiet agree. Let's take for example the one filed

Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 05:21:17PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Roger Leigh writes (Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps): Taking one of php5's dependencies as an example: libdb-dev (= 4.7) | libdb4.8-dev | libdb4.6-dev This dependency permits building against no less than

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:13:19PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:08:18 +, Roger Leigh wrote: · Standard alternative use in the form concrete|virtual, as used for normal deps on virtual packages. Is this sensible? · Architecture-specific dependencies

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:21:24PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 06:49:21PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Roger Leigh writes (Re: re buildd's resolver and package's build deps): I agree that these do serve a useful purpose for these uses, and that ease of reuse

Re: [buildd-tools-devel] re buildd's resolver and package's build deps

2011-02-22 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 12:05:28AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 22:40:52 +, Roger Leigh wrote: From discussion on IRC earlier this evening, it looks like the most pragmatic approach will be to get the apt and aptitude sbuild resolvers to strip the alternatives

Re: Wanted: system/volunteer to do whole-archive rebuild (×3) to test sbuild

2011-02-21 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:36:55PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: sbuild, which does the job of building binary packages on our buildds, uses a built-in build-dependency resolver (internal) to work out what packages need installing/removing in order to satisfy a package's Build-Depends and Build

Re: Default Homedir Permissions

2011-02-19 Thread Roger Leigh
wish to do this. I already puts no entry emblems on folders you don't have permission to enter, so it's not a big change to additionally flag up folders which other have read and write access to. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org

Re: Default Homedir Permissions

2011-02-17 Thread Roger Leigh
well want total control over who can see your files, but unless you're dealing with TOP SECRET stuff, I am not convinced that this is something the typical user would wish to have by default. Are there any common use cases which require this? Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian

Re: Default Homedir Permissions

2011-02-17 Thread Roger Leigh
/rleigh/public_html # owner: rleigh # group: rleigh user::rwx group::r-x group:www-data:r-x mask::r-x other::r-x Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net

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