Re: Zeroconf Debian?

2003-08-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 08 August 2003 00:54, Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Fri, Aug 08, 2003 at 01:28:15PM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > > I'm currently at the SAGE-AU annual conference, and Apple presented a > > paper about their Rendezvous technology, which is their implementation of > > Zeroconf[1]. > > My ex

Re: package name change (moviemate -> mediamate)

2003-07-30 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Wednesday 30 July 2003 15:56, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > In building the new Media Mate package, I've declared a Conflicts with > the moviemate package to effect moviemate's uninstall when the mediamate > package is installed. However, this leaves the question of migrating > the moviemate's co

Re: default MTA for sarge

2003-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 13 July 2003 02:24, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > I would lean towards exim4 configured for local delivery only. It is a > sane default for just about every system. The admins who know they want > another MTA can easily replace exim and the users who have no

Re: default MTA for sarge

2003-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 13 July 2003 06:26, Sebastian Kapfer wrote: > > I know, but that location (/var/mail/root) is discouraged, isn't it? The > admin shouldn't read his/her mail under uid 0. That's why I think that > exim should ask this question when it is configured for local delivery (or > in "newbie" mode

Re: default MTA for sarge

2003-07-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 13 July 2003 01:31, Joey Hess wrote: > For sarge we have two options for the default MTA in base: > > a. replace exim with exim4 > b. no MTA installed by default, add a MTA task > > So do we want there to be a MTA by default? I would lean towards exim4 configured for local delivery only.

Re: console mode(probally off)

2003-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 02 June 2003 17:47, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > On Monday 02 June 2003 04:09, Luiz Rafael Culik Guimaraes wrote: > > > How to start debian direct on console mode, > > > > Eh? I thought Debian always

Re: console mode(probally off)

2003-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Monday 02 June 2003 04:09, Luiz Rafael Culik Guimaraes wrote: > Dear Friends > > How to start debian direct on console mode, > > Regards > Luiz Eh? I thought Debian always started in console mode unless you both installed xdm (or the gnome/kde equivalent) and enabled it.

Re: Celebrating Debian's 10th birthday?

2003-06-02 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 01 June 2003 18:24, Alexander Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > While digging around in the calendar-files at infodrom.org I suddenly > realized that Debian will have it's 10th birthday at August, 16th > (according to the calendar.infodrom.debian file at > http://www.infodrom.org/projects/calendar

Re: What makes a debconf?

2003-05-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Do we need some method of deciding what constitutes 'the' Debconf? Or maybe we need to be more freeform. There is no inherent "betterness" of say the Oslo conference over one held near Washington, DC. Maybe there are 4 of them one year and only one the next. Maybe we start holding one eve

Re: Very uneven distribution of packages per maintainer

2003-05-23 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> > Not necessarily -- some packages are a lot of work, like xfree, glibc, > apache, some are a decent amount of work, like mailman, cvs and some > are close to zero work, like chrpath and xslide. People also have > different amounts of time available -- those who are paid to do Debian > maintaine

Re: Bug#148421: kopete =?utf-8?q?0=2E6=2E1a

2003-04-29 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Tuesday 29 April 2003 09:59, Michael Meskes wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-04-29 > Followup-For: Bug #148421 > > Since this ITP is almost a year old and there is a package available > under http://kopete.creativa.cl/debian/sid/ and the packages applies for > NM and

Re: Bug#188665: RC issue

2003-04-13 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
> I understand that this requires all packages using lex to > massage their lexers to conform to the new behaviour of flex; but the > gains in reduced complexity of the scanner and reentrancy and > standards compliance are well worth it. > and like the gcc 3.2 change over, the upstreams

Re: What should go into "How Software Producers can distribute their products directly in .deb format"?

2002-12-09 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 08 December 2002 20:00, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 07:03:05PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > Which is why I ask for the second option -- a tarball. Let Debian, > > Gentoo, BSD, whoever do their own packaging. This includes any o

Re: What should go into "How Software Producers can distribute their products directly in .deb format"?

2002-12-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 08 December 2002 18:12, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sun, Dec 08, 2002 at 06:06:41PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > In the end it makes very little sense for a3rd party to provide debs. > > It makes sense for the debian user, dont u think? > Which

Re: What should go into "How Software Producers can distribute their products directly in .deb format"?

2002-12-08 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Sunday 08 December 2002 13:29, Aaron Isotton wrote: > Hi, > > (sorry for the overlong subject). > > I originally sent this to debian-doc but I got no answers, so I > thought I'd post it here too. > > I'm interested in writing the "How Software Producers can distribute > their products directly i

Re: Locales problems...

2002-11-28 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Thursday 28 November 2002 16:02, Bruno Diniz de Paula wrote: > > Another question: is this question proper to this list, or I should have > tried debian-user? Sorry if it is unproper... (in fact, I also sent to > that list) > debian-user is the support list while debian-devel is for the day to

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 02:03, Roland Mas wrote: > Current candidates include: > hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than having to guess what woman's name some silly coder named the program I am looking for. And since most of us aren't French the names

Fwd: Love it when a good plan works out!

2002-09-01 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
Great warm and fuzzy mail with an interesting P.S. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Love it when a good plan works out! Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 16:03:14 -0700 From: Johnny Quazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Just completed my first crack at the new Woody 3

Re: graphical installer?

2002-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 30 August 2002 08:57, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le ven 30/08/2002 à 17:37, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry a écrit : > > On Friday 30 August 2002 08:29, Mateusz Papiernik wrote: > > > > Have a look at PGI: http://hackers.progeny.com/pgi/ > > > > > >

Re: Should we customize apps for a common "debian-look"?

2002-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 30 August 2002 08:29, Vince Mulhollon wrote: > > The problem is, I experiment with and chose window managers by going to the > website and look at the pretty screenshots. > If I like the screenshot, then it's a quick apt-get install somethingwm. I > expect to get what I saw on upstream's

Re: graphical installer?

2002-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 30 August 2002 08:29, Mateusz Papiernik wrote: > > Have a look at PGI: http://hackers.progeny.com/pgi/ > > It's very nice! I like GTK wizard look very much - so why > it isn't integrated with unofficial Sid images? Have You got > any other plans ? Or maybe you want to use text installer

Re: Should we customize apps for a common "debian-look"?

2002-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 30 August 2002 08:05, Erich Schubert wrote: > > Provided we *ONLY* muck with things like colors, icons, and root images > > this should be fine. Actually changing code like RH did to remove the > > About box would not be good. > > I never look at about boxes anyway, so why remove them? ;

Re: Should we customize apps for a common "debian-look"?

2002-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 30 August 2002 09:03, Yenar Calentaure wrote: > > Please, please, please, do not change the default without asking user > first. Debian users tend to know what they want. > And the clueful user almost never uses the default anyways. But even if they do want to we just provide an option

Re: Should we customize apps for a common "debian-look"?

2002-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 30 August 2030 06:50, Jérôme Marant wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2002 at 03:43:32PM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > > I don't have a real opinion, but i do thing that looks begin to matter > > for linux apps and desktops... > > I agree with you. I think that the default Distribution theme re

Re: "Bug of the month", or how to get people fixing bugs

2002-08-29 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Thursday 29 August 2002 19:45, Andrew Suffield wrote: > [Obey M-F-T or die] > > Here's the basic idea: turn bug-fixing into a game (a counterbalance > to the huge quantities of time which moon-buggy and frozen-bubble have > taken away from Debian development). > > People register to play, and ea

Re: Is this still valid?

2002-08-29 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Thursday 29 August 2002 05:08, Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Hi > > I just wonder if this lintian error is still applicable? > > > Or should I simply ignore it. > > I think that it is due to the /usr/doc /usr/share/doc thing but I'm > not sure. > I never saw this get pushed into policy, joeyh just de

Re: Is lintian stalled? [Re: Is this still valid?]

2002-08-29 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Thursday 29 August 2002 05:14, Jérôme Marant wrote: > On Thu, Aug 29, 2002 at 02:14:12PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > Or should I simply ignore it. > > > > You should, for the time being, until Lintian is fixed. > > It seems that Lintian hasn't been updated for a long time now. > However,

Re: Dock Apps packaging, round 2

2002-08-23 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 23 August 2002 03:05 pm, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Second, there is the famous... TADA ! Packages file size ! > While this shouldn't be a limit for what we package, we can't increase > its size indefinitely. This one of the reasons why the gnome applets > were put in a single package. I t

Re: Dock Apps packaging, round 2

2002-08-23 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 23 August 2002 01:12 pm, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > Hi Sean! > > You wrote: > > Asking maintainers to give up their packages so you can bundle them > > just seems wrong. Why not just make your bundles be meta packages? > > Because people keep complaining about ITP's of packages they consider

Re: Dock Apps packaging, round 2

2002-08-23 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On Friday 23 August 2002 11:03 am, Josselin Mouette wrote: > After the little discussion 2 weeks ago about the packaging of dock > apps, I come with a proposal. > > Granularity is good. Until now, all dock apps have been packaged > separately to achieve best granularity. However, this is growing to

Re: Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1

2002-08-20 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Aug-2002 Josip Rodin wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 10:23:29AM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> >> Rather than mass filing bugs, can you write a lintian check for it >> >> instead? >> > >> > He filed a bug about Upstream Author(s

Re: Possible mass filing of bugs, take #2.1

2002-08-20 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Aug-2002 Josip Rodin wrote: > On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 02:14:16AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: >> Rather than mass filing bugs, can you write a lintian check for it >> instead? > > He filed a bug about Upstream Author(s), I fixed it, and then shaleh and > others rev

Re: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-16 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > If temporary breakage of some applications is acceptable, you can > spread this over a couple of days, by tsorting the 1000 packages. > or do a staging in experimental or somewhere else. Upload everything there, let people look at it for a day or two then move it over. This staging could a

Re: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-16 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > If upstream aren't inclined to change their Linux soname for the new gcc, > though, not changing our soname but doing the upgrade anyway seems the > best option. > even if some are willing not all will be. Then we have to worry about dead upstreams too. It seems like changing the sonames t

RE: GCC 3.2 transition

2002-08-16 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> * Add a Conflict with the non-`c' version of the package. why can't we have both installed, just like the libfoo6 and libfoo6g situation??

because it isn't said enough

2002-04-16 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
I recently ran into this on my current project (blackbox window manager). Too often as developers the people we talk to are the ones seeking help and guidance. Whether it is a bug, ignorance, stupidity, that crazy genius only they will ever understand, whatever we deal with them, coddle them. Bu

Re: Bug#141847: O: dupload -- Utility to upload Debian packages.

2002-04-09 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > [1] Unless someone actually tries to embed arbitrary pthon in it. dput's config is not python code. It is parsed by ConfigParser which is essentially ini style. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: g++-3.0 library support?

2002-04-07 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > So if I wanna link an programm with the gcc-3.0 version, -lfoo-gcc3 has > to be used and for gcc-2.9x, -lfoo. > > Are there any better ideas? > unfortunately not, the ABI is different between the two. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Debian Conference 2 Registration

2002-04-06 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > It'd be a very, very bad idea for anybody to start doing or saying > anything non-constructive to Lindows.com. They as a company, and every > person I've dealt with through Lindows.com, employee or otherwise, have > been nothing but corteous and helpful, and have helped make Debconf 2 a > poss

Re: Spamassassin config files in /usr/share

2002-04-06 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 06-Apr-2002 Malcolm Parsons wrote: > On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:45:08PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote: >> Currently, I edit the file in /usr/share to implement my site-wide >> policies, but this will be overridden every time spamassassin is >> upgraded. > > Why not use dpkg-divert? > that is o

Re: Choosing a toolkit

2002-01-12 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Jan-2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There seem to be quite a few gui tookits: > Xlib, GTK+, Tcl/Tk, and Motif just to > name a few. I downloaded GTK+, but it > hasn't had a new stable version since > before 2000. > stable means stable. Why does there need to be a new release if the last o

RE: letters in upstream version numbers

2001-09-26 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Sep-2001 Noah L. Meyerhans wrote: > Lintian gives errors when looking at a package with letters at the > beginning of the upstream version number. Ch. 4 of policy indicates > that the upstream version can't begin with a letter. However, it > doesn't really indicate what should be done in c

Re: lintian releases

2001-09-26 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 26-Sep-2001 Steve Greenland wrote: > On 25-Sep-01, 17:56 (CDT), Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> a) you declare a relation on a package more than once i.e. Depends: >> foo, foo (<< 2.0). Note this check assumes that '|' relation

lintian releases

2001-09-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
Seeing how I made DWN I thought I should send an update. 1.20.15 was admitted in this morning and everyone should get it in today's upgrade. It closes around 20 bugs. 1.20.16 was just uploaded due to two bugs submitted by Eduard Bloch. Lintian now has two more errors: a) you declare a relation

Re: what happened to the dput package?

2001-09-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > No, dput doesn't depend on ssh, it only suggest it like rsync. But it > depends on GnuPG now, therefor the change. > why the depends on gpg?

RE: Disappearing task-* packages!

2001-09-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Sep-2001 Taral wrote: > All the task-* packages seem to be missing from the main Packages file! > Where did they go? > > P.S. If this was announced, perhaps the announcement should have gone to > the debian-devel-announce list? > Task packages are deprecated, tasksel now handles them. Th

Re: what happened to the dput package?

2001-09-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Sep-2001 Steve M. Robbins wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:10:22PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 02:07:36PM +0200, Jochen Voss wrote: >> > there used to be a package called "dput", >> > but now I cannot find it anymore. For example >> > visiting >> > >> >

RE: please test this lintian release

2001-09-21 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 20-Sep-2001 Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > http://people.debian.org/~shaleh/lintian. > I have fixed the silly spelling error bug, lather, rinse and repeat.

Re: please test this lintian release

2001-09-21 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Sep-2001 Domenico Andreoli wrote: > On Thu, Sep 20, 2001 at 02:17:47PM -0700, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: >> http://people.debian.org/~shaleh/lintian. >> >> > there is some problem with debian/Debian spell checking, it reports > "spelling-error

Re: please test this lintian release

2001-09-21 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 21-Sep-2001 Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > >> http://people.debian.org/~shaleh/lintian. > > It's normally customary to include a brief list of things we should be > testing. It. The package. The thing I uploaded

please test this lintian release

2001-09-20 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
http://people.debian.org/~shaleh/lintian.

RE: Running dpkg -r foo from a postinst script?

2001-09-19 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 19-Sep-2001 Ola Lundqvist wrote: > Hi > > I have a simple question. Is it possible to run dpkg -r foo > from within a postinst-script when using dselect or apt? > > What is the result? > > It whould be very helpful when creating the improved harden > packages. :) > You just got nominated a

Re: /bin/ls is impure!

2001-09-19 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > It works... Something's wrong with your system. > Try strace'ing ls. > what shell are you playing with? I presume most people are using bash.

RE: [Q]: GNU inetutils and debian inetutils not in sync??

2001-09-14 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 14-Sep-2001 Francis ANDRE wrote: > Hi DDG > > I check out the www.gnu.org inetutils against debian inetutils and I found > them out of sync?? > > Could anybody tell me why?? GNU inetutils is a FSF implementation, ours is the original BSD. The FSF is re-implementing long existing code so tha

RE: A language by any other name

2001-09-13 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > What's the problem? German is spoken outside Germany. That what's > spoken outside Germany is not the same as that what's spoken inside > Germany, but that what's spoken outside is still called German > (officially), as far as I know. That is to say, de_AT.ISO-8859-1 is as > "german" a

Re: call for lintian patches

2001-09-12 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 12-Sep-2001 Edward Betts wrote: > Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The lintian maintainer is back! I am slowly reading up on the new policy >> and >> my bug list. So, if you have any beefs or patches please read the BTS and >>

call for lintian patches

2001-09-12 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
The lintian maintainer is back! I am slowly reading up on the new policy and my bug list. So, if you have any beefs or patches please read the BTS and submit accordingly.

Re: rfc1149

2001-05-02 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 02-May-2001 Marcin Owsiany wrote: > On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 09:50:01PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> 11 years ago IETF described a IP protocol to transport IP datagrams using >> pigeons. > > African or European? > pidgeon, not swallow (-:

Re: rfc1149

2001-05-02 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> Actually, I think it has been implemented recently. I think maybe a > Debian package would have to go into contrib though, unless you can find a > way to squeeze pigeons into a .deb ;-) > > Hmm.."Depends: pigeons (>= 200lb)" > Why? We do not have 'Depends: CAT5 (<< 30m)'.

RE: rfc1149

2001-05-02 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 02-May-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > 11 years ago IETF described a IP protocol to transport IP datagrams using > pigeons. See > > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt > > Sadly enough, noone has still implemented this protocol. It would be nice to > make a debian-package of it. Anyone intere

RE: Two debconf issues

2001-05-01 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 01-May-2001 Simon Richter wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently debconfizing one of my packages, uptimed. Two quoestions > have arised: > > - At the start of my config script, I import all settings from the real > configuration file, if it exists. For some settings, this is trivial, > for s

Re: ash word-splitting changes break shell scripts

2001-05-01 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> The autoconf folks try very hard to write portable code. They go to > ridiculous lengths to support every major flavour of OS, compiler, > make, and shell. Indeed, Zack's tests show that only the recent ash > behaves differently. > more importantly (to me anyways) is the question of why do we

Re: Are build-dependancies mandatory?

2001-04-27 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > I still don't understand why the policy (version 3.5.3.0) > doesn't simply say "must" rather then "may". > Debian is a community which exists for the mutual benefit of its members. Members playing games like 'policy does not say I *HAVE* to do it' do not make Debian a better place. let's a

Re: auditd as logrotate replacement?

2001-04-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > What it does use for crypto is openssl's libcrypt, > wich is NOT needed when used as a simple (traditional) > rotate system. So Debian can ship audit[d], and if > a user wants it's advanced crypto support, she/he should > install openssl package. > does it dlopen this? in other words, if I h

Re: auditd as logrotate replacement?

2001-04-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Apr-2001 Arthur Korn wrote: > Sean 'Shaleh' Perry schrieb: >> as long as lograte can be installed first, then I can later >> install auditd and everything will just work, sure. > > I can't use logrotate with msyslog, it won't work, logrotate is >

RE: auditd as logrotate replacement?

2001-04-25 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 25-Apr-2001 Arthur Korn wrote: > Hi > > I got an offer from the friendly people at Core-SDI to make > auditd (server part of theyer BSD licenced, in development, log > management software) a full (read: better) replacement for > logrotate. > > Will a package in non-US/main have any chance to

RE: NMUers: STOP BEING STUPID

2001-04-23 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 23-Apr-2001 John Goerzen wrote: > OK, I'm rather annoyed. Recently I'm doing "squash bugs on my packages" > and I have had already THREE that have been broken by NMUs that > occured over the past week. > So perhaps we need to come up with some more structure for the bug parties. Perhaps the

Re: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2000-12-22 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > I'd be glad to help. How should we proceed? Should we send patches to > the appropiate maintainers or directly upload the NMUs? Honestly, they > had enough time to tranist to /usr/share/doc. > send patch, wait some period of time (maybe a week?) then warn of NMU, then NMU.

RE: finishing up the /usr/share/doc transition

2000-12-22 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > There are a total of 645 packages that have not been converted[2]. There > are 16 weeks between December 31st and Aj's projected freeze date for woody. > If 40 people could do one package a week, we would be done. Or 20 people > doing two a week, or just 6 people doing one a day. In other word

RE: linkchecker lintian warnings

2000-12-22 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 22-Dec-2000 Bastian Kleineidam wrote: > Hi, > > if you test my linkchecker .deb package: > I just noticed that lintian gives the following warnings on my 1.2.12 > package of LinkChecker: > W: linkchecker: postinst-does-not-set-usr-doc-link > W: linkchecker: prerm-does-not-remove-usr-doc-link >

RE: mp3 encoding patents.

2000-09-13 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 13-Sep-2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Sorry to bring up this subject again. > I just wanted to know that can't mp3 encoders be distributed from a non-us > site where the policies are much more relaxed ? > the patents are held in Germany. This restricts us because most countries in

RE: RFA: Gmp3 - Adopt it or remove it right away?

2000-09-12 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > It isn't supported upstream anymore. Homepage is gone, > mail to author bounces. Gmp3 isn't very nice and a little > bit buggy for me. I don't have the knowledge and time to > work at the source and don't feel like trying, either. > I say ditch it. No sense filling up Debian with dead code.

RE: Python 1.6 released and GPL incompatible

2000-09-06 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > 1) Ignore Python 1.6 and up, as long as the license is not compatible >with the GPL. That's probably the easiest way to go, but is it >justified ? Looks like a deliberate discrimination against a >DFSG-free license, only because it's not GPL compatible. > > 2) Include both Python

Re: ITP hodie

2000-09-05 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 03-Sep-2000 Peter Makholm wrote: > "Christian T. Steigies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> What does it do? >> It has the same functionality as the date (1) program, only... It >> has it in grammatically correct latin. > > Couldn't this be done with gettext and the normal date coma

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-01 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Sep-2000 Colin Watson wrote: > "Sean 'Shaleh' Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>I started this afternoon submitting bugs against packages which print >>verbose output in their maintainer scripts. The future that Debian >>must take is to full

Re: My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-09-01 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > But then it might interrupt the installation process. Just as debconf > asks all of the preinst questions before any of the packages have > started unpacking, it would be nice to be able to defer any questions > that *have* to wait for the postinst until the very end, when all of > the packag

My recent bug's and continuing effort to debconf-ize Debian

2000-08-31 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
I started this afternoon submitting bugs against packages which print verbose output in their maintainer scripts. The future that Debian must take is to fully support debconf. To further this goal I will continue submitting patches to any package which prompts the user in a maintainer script. If

RE: Machine-specific optimizations

2000-08-31 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > So, is there any plan to use them (like recompiling the package on the user's > machine)? > you always have the option of using 'apt-get source' to recompile a package, then place it on hold and we wont touch it. Beyond that, it gets very messy. Not to mention the disk usage. Users who in

RE: BTS not showing my bugs

2000-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 30-Aug-2000 Brian May wrote: > Ok, > > Can somebody explain the following? > >>From http://www.debian.org/Bugs/>, click on > "Index of maintainers of packages with bug reports.", and then > "Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" takes you to: > http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/ma/lBrian_May,bam,debian.

Re: /bin/ksh as a default POSIX shell

2000-08-30 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > You cannot use it as a default shell without auditing all scripts. > I have used ash for over a year now as my /bin/sh.

RE: Paradise

2000-03-29 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > Please let me know what I need to do or who I need to contact. I should > be on debian-devel but feel free to CC me. > we would like to know what license your software is under. We only place Open Source licensed code into Debian proper. See our web site for details (you will often hear t

Re: how about a real unstable?

2000-03-28 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > This is what experimental is for, no? > > Unstable is for unstable Debian, not necessarily unstable software. The > experimental distribution is much more appropriate for unstable upstream > software. > agreed with the addition that experimental must also be apt'able. Getting software from

RE: Bug#58174

2000-03-16 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > I don't think bugs like this should slow down our release cycle at all. IMO > this bug should be downgraded to normal. > > Comments anyone? > sounds fair, and little items (sorry) like metamail should not hold us up.

RE: So whos going to ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Oct-99 Johnie Ingram wrote: > > ... and would be willing to help at the Debian booth (#503, community > pavillion, check it out), or who knows good places to stay at in > Atlanta? Or who wants to planepool with the Novare team from Dallas? > > Joey Hess and myself are going. We have on

RE: I need some help during ALS

1999-10-05 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 05-Oct-99 Vaidhyanathan G Mayilrangam wrote: > Hi All, > > As you all probably know, ALS is from Oct. 12 - 16 at Atlanta. I am having > trouble running any kernel above 2.2.5 on my machine. If anyone is coming and > would want to help me with this problem, I would appreciate it. I can bring >

Re: SSH never free

1999-10-01 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 1 Oct 1999, James Troup wrote: > >> [ RSA is no longer included. ] > > Wait wait, doesn't this mean that ssh RSA authentication is gone as well?? > Did they replace it with DSS/DH or what? IMHO ssh would cease to be very > usefull as a security tool wi

Re: {R,I[INEW]}TP: free ssh [non-US]

1999-10-01 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 01-Oct-99 Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On 30 Sep 1999, James Troup wrote: > >> OpenBSD have started working on the last free SSH (1.2.12 was under a >> DFSG free license AFAICT[1]), they also, (again AFAICT [I'm going by >> the CVS commits]), are ripping out the patented algrothims (IDEA, >> et

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-29 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > e) Let update-inetd handle this. This might not be enough for standalone > servers like apache and roxen but it would work with a pop3 server - > update-inetd -add should notice that there is already a valid entry enable > with that service and add the new entry with a hash mark. > Not enoug

RE: ITP: portsentry

1999-09-29 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 29-Sep-99 Rene Mayrhofer wrote: > portsentry is a daemon that listens for port scans (also stealth scans) > and is able to disconnect and remember the attacking hosts in real-time. > It uses ipchains for disconnecting and tcp wrappers for preventing hosts > from further connections. > Please lo

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
Ok, let's bring this back to implementation. How would you propose we handle this? Currently daemons install, set themselves up, and begin running. a) we can prompt. b) we leave everything off and let the admin turn it on (not an option for obvious reasons) c) first come first serve -- first dae

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-28 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 27-Sep-99 Clint Adams wrote: >> a) I would not test a new daemon on a working machine, I would use a >> separate > > So? > >> b) if you know what you are doing, compile the packages by hand, fix their >> install scripts, and remove the conflicts. You are trying to circumvent the >> norm. >

Re: Packages should not Conflict on the basis of duplicate funct

1999-09-27 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
> > So what you're telling me is that anyone with a "complex" setup > shouldn't bother using Debian? > a) I would not test a new daemon on a working machine, I would use a separate one. In the case of gnu pop3, it will spin off and consume 99% of your cpu due to poor child management. We (I am

RE: debconf for configuring a room full of machines

1999-09-21 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
The bigger issue is that until debconf has a real db, passing the answers an admin would want into packages is rather painful. Yes, this will allow for great power -- in the future. The Debian install procedure is undergoing lots of change.

RE: libwxx-gtk 2.1

1999-09-17 Thread Sean &#x27;Shaleh' Perry
On 17-Sep-99 Christian Surchi wrote: > Does a package of these libs exists? > I was supposed to be taking them over. However I am stretched a wee thin at the moment. So, if you or someone else would like to help, feel free. The one requirement being that wxPython also needs to be cleaned up a

Re: Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]

1999-05-26 Thread shaleh
Seconded, this seems a good solution.

ITP: terraform

1999-05-26 Thread shaleh
As I recall someone(s) posted an intent and nothing came from this. I am able to compile and use this app, so it will now be packaged. This will likely be a few weeks away as various things are comig up and I need to get gtkmm happy again first (GNOME deps, eee).

Re: VA Research and linux.com

1999-05-25 Thread Shaleh
On 19-May-99 Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote: > Joseph Carter proclaimed: >> Not to mention the longstanding rumors that "soon" Debian will be offered >> on VA's machines.. > > I thought VA already did Debian installs "on request". > Sort of. And Debian was dropped mainly because it was cheaper

Re: Paying for trade show booths?

1999-05-22 Thread shaleh
> > > --AqsLC8rIMeq19msA > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 09:07:02AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > (I was at LinuxWorld and I must say it was cool! Worth going, and even > > > worth the financial nightmare it created in my life that is just now >

Re: Paying for trade show booths?

1999-05-21 Thread shaleh
> > Okay, next question would be then: Do we want to be paying for large > booths at trade shows? I agree, LinuxWorld was a _MADHOUSE_, but is it > something we want to spend donation money on? ie, do people think the > trade shows are that terribly important to us? > > (I was at LinuxWorld an

Re: better /etc/init.d/network

1999-05-19 Thread shaleh
> > If there's noone objecting to the addition of IPv6 stuff to the interface > we could work out a proper way of specifying it on the debian-ipv6 list. > IPv6 is supposed to be the future so either we do it now or later. Might as well be now.

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