When browsing debian.org, I came across something rather interesting...
http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/
Evidently, all of the backports.org backports are now listed on the
debian.org packages listing. They are still on the backports.org servers and
not on the debian.org mirrors, but th
Hi all,
The idea (mentioned in the prior thread) of having an "Etch and a half"
release with an updated X/kernel/installer sounds EXACTLY like what I was
hinting at. Backports are great, but having a supported, Debian-tested
release that Debian can give to users with new/exotic hardware (which ha
> There are plans for an "etch + 1/2" release which would update the
> kernel and X server to support newer hardware. I don't what the status
> or timetable for this is.\
This would be great. I'm curious who is working on it...
Why not use backports.org?
Well, none of what I need is there. (
Hi,
About a month ago I inquired here as to what Debian is doing regarding
backported updates for stable releases. I did get some good responses to
that thread, and I see why Debian doesn't expend too much energy making
significant updates (like new GNOME, Xorg, etc etc) to *stable* releases -
it
> Well, when you started this thread I was fearing a quite long flame
> with everybody jumping at you with "if you don't like you're
> free to some and help improving it"which is definitely what
> happens too frequently when some users report issues that can't often
> be pointed to a given pac
>
> You're right, but I thought you argued about Etch. Btw, the idea is
> replace xine with gstreamer as default backend, but we've quite some
> time until freeze, meanwhile I would recommend you stay tuned for
> tasksel updates and switch to totem-gstreamer and install the 0.10
> plugins, all of t
>
> My browser (iceweasel) does include .mov as a supported format. All the
> files I try to play open a player applet, but it does nothing. Trying to
> open them manually with Totem results in a "Video Codec Advanced Video
> Coding (H264) is not installed" error message. I even installed the ffm
> Could you please check that the 'about:plugins' output displays 'mov'
> support? If not, which desktop environment and gecko 'based' browser
> you're using ? Do you've the related task installed (eg: gnome-desktop
> for GNOME, ...) ?
My browser (iceweasel) does include .mov as a supported forma
>
> - driver detection
> We've driver detection, what's wrong with this feature in your use
> case scenario?
I was talking about driver detection with out-of-tree drivers that must be
built with "module-assistant". It actually looks like something is in the
works, though.
- more streamlined liv
>
> Oh, for the love of god, not more of this...
>
> If these (read: nvidia/ati) drivers were DFSG-compliant, they'd be
> included by default. Since this is not possible, it should be made as easy
> as possible to install them. The only thing is to ensure that it remains an
> opt-in, since people m
> Which work? Could you please test with both Etch and testing or even
> unstable write a report, send to debian-desktop ML -
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], pointing to some bugs in or out of
> our bug tracking system (if any) ?
I will do this...
> It seems that we have no support for FAAC in main yet. C
> I'm sad that this didn't get fixed in time for etch, but afaik it's
> working fine for lenny. cpufrequtils contains an init script that loads
> the appropriate governor module.
It didn't seem to work for me. I guess I'll investigate further and
possibly file a bug - because while the modules w
> In addition, there is not reliable solution for suspend/hibernate,
> especially
> from X. There still some way to go for X and the kernel to get to there.
The bundled suspend scripts seem to be improving somewhat, but they need
work...
Additionally, it should be noted that a desktop task has
>
>
> At least with debian.org, it appears the CSS specifies a font of "Arial,
> Helvetica, sans-serif", which means if msttcorefonts isn't installed, it
> falls back to the ugly bitmap Helvetica fonts. Which seems more like a
> bug
> in the CSS for a website for free software, than in the web bro
>
>
> I just reported an ITP Bug for restricted-manager [1]
>
> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=436722
> --
It does need to be modified to work with Debian, though - such that it pulls
the drivers using m-a instead of using Ubuntu's "restricted-modules"
package.
Just making
>
>
>
> I guess that is a bug in iceweasel wrt. the default parameters.
>
> Anyway, you should use epiphany instead, which doesn't have this issue
> in etch :)
It's not just etch - this happens on lenny/sid as well.
I guess I should file a bug on this - it appears to be fixed in Ubuntu, so
maybe
>
>
> > We already have this on the desktop, from what I can see (there is
> > evidence of a scaling-module-loading-thingummy running on boot)
> >
>
Yes, it loads, but the default scaling governor is set to "userspace". As
powernowd isn't included in the desktop task, this effectly means no CPU
sc
Hi,
I'm a new (though fairly knowledgeable) Debian user and possibly a
prospective developer. Anyway, though I do like Debian a lot, one thing is
obvious - it lags somewhat behind as a desktop (or laptop) distribution as
compared to many other distributions (notably Ubuntu, which is of course
base
> Why don't you want to use testing, again?
Well, it doesn't have security updates (well, testing security team is
supposed to exist, but it seems somewhat dormant as of late). I may give it
a try, though - I'm not running a server so it shouldn't be too bad.
Backporting isn't always automatic,
Anyway, regarding my original concern and my ideas, I have reached a few
conclusions.
In my own case, I figure I'll probably either be running Sid or Ubuntu
Feisty. I gave etch+rolling my own backports a try,
but backporting each package was a throwback to the Debian Hamm (i.e.
pre-apt) days - I
>
>
> So, tell me, where is a security update being held up because it is not
> in sync on all architectures?
>
> Now, in the case of testing (which is not officially supported for
> security updates, except by the secure-testing team), things may work a
> little differently. That is because testi
>
> Hi,
>
> Would a combination of backports.org (for
> etch-backports) and etch security updates, not take
> care of this for you?
>
> You would get fairly up to date packages built for
> etch, and still have a viable upgrade option when the
> next release comes.
>
> - Lawrence
That may work OK
Just to follow up, I do appreciate that Debian wishes to cover so many
architectures - I even installed Debian on quite possibly the most obscure
architecture in the past, m68k (an old Quadra 700). Would have been funny
to attempt a full-blown X install. Honestly, only NetBSD rivals Debian in
th
>
>
> > > In the case of Iceweasel, stable already has 2.0.0.5, as this was a
> security
> > > update. There is supposed to be a testing security team, but
> evidently they
> > > haven't gotten around to the Iceweasel fix. Honestly, it is a bit
> weird -
> > > but a fact of the release system - th
On 7/29/07, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ciol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> Are you aware of backports.org?
>
> > But backports are recompiled packages from testing, and for instance
> > testing is still with iceweasel 2.0.0.3. How is it possible to impro
>
>
> Are you aware of backports.org? I use it extensively for cherry-picking
> specific packages where I need a newer version for feature reasons while
> keeping the rest of the system running stable. That means there's only a
> few packages I have to pay special attention to for security
> vuln
Hi,
I must say I hope no one takes this the wrong way or flames me because of it
- I really appreciate what Debian has done, and I think you have the most
stable, logically laid out, and free (as in freedom) Linux distribution out
there.
That said, there is a significant issue that I see with Deb
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