Re: unattended-upgrades by default?

Steve McIntyre writes: > To solve the issue and provide security updates by default, I'm > proposing that we should switch to installing unattended-upgrades by > default (and enabling it too) *unless* something else in the > installation is already expected to deal with security

Re: Copyright file granularity

Steve Langasek writes: > shouldn't be an intensive manual process. Unfortunately the only tool I'm > aware of that does this is coupled to cdbs. I wrote http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/git/git-copyright-scan.git/ to update debian/copyright based on upstream git history. There's no

Re: Proposal: enable stateless persistant network interface names

Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes: Btw, why the expletive is the only way to configure this the kernel command line and no configuration inside /etc where one would expect it? Maybe because udev is started from initramfs before the root filesystem has been mounted? -- To

Accepted magit 1.2.1-1 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:25:43 + Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Accepted systemtap 2.3-2 (source amd64 all)

: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server) systemtap-common - instrumentation

Re: strace behavior under debian wheezy

GALAMBOS Daniel dan...@dancsa.hu writes: Are there any way to acquire the signal sender's PID? stap -x $pid /usr/share/doc/systemtap-doc/examples/process/sigmon.stp SIGTERM shows you the process that sends SIGTERM to the process whose PID is $pid. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: home directories on porter machines to be pruned automatically

Luca Filipozzi lfili...@debian.org writes: A couple of weeks ago, we started automatically mailing users whose home directories were above a dynamic notification threshold. This dynamic I wouldn't mind getting an overview of my disk space usage even if I am not over the threshold. Is that

Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

Stéphane Glondu glo...@debian.org writes: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/structured-buildlogs/logs/hello-2.6-1_amd64.build How do you do that exactly? Can't remember the exact details but you can get the script with git clone http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/git/structured-buildlogs.git/ -Timo -- To

Accepted magit 1.2.0-2 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 12:27:17 +0300 Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Accepted systemtap 2.3-1 (source amd64 all)

: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server) systemtap-common - instrumentation

Re: PulseAudio

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes: I am sorry, but in my eyes, people who claim that PulseAudio is useless simply don't realize that there can be sound setups which are a little more sophisticated than just a single sound card and configuring these can be PITA when

Re: Reporting 1.2K crashes

Alexandre Rebert alexandre.reb...@gmail.com writes: wheeze packages. After contacting ow...@bugs.debian.org, Don Armstrong advised us to contact you before submitting ~1.2K bug reports to the Debian BTS using mainto...@bugs.debian.org (to avoid spamming debian-bugs-dist). Interesting

Re: download of source packages alarmed clamav

Harald Dunkel harald.dun...@aixigo.de writes: I doubt that sending a virus complies to the DFSG, so the question is whether these source packages have been compromised? The test/ directory in pymilter_0.9.3.orig.tar.gz contains some sample viruses on purpose. I can't comment on other source

Re: vision: easily move all my data and config to a new machine

Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro writes: I've started by building debian packages with equivs that have dependencies to all packages that I've installed by hand on my old machine.[1] This is not comfortable. https://github.com/devstructure/blueprint might help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: jessie release goal: verbose build logs

Matthias Klose d...@debian.org writes: This doesn't really help when trying to diagnose things, and even for successful builds it's valuable to have the complete build log, including the parts how the upstream build system is called from the Debian packaging. This is a useful goal.

Re: security policy / root passwords

Michael Banck mba...@debian.org writes: I think the best approach would be sudo and requesting the user for their own password - and probably be more informative about why the password is needed or what is being installed. By the way, this seems to be the case for my wheezy installation,

Re: security policy / root passwords

Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes: * ability to use system-modal prompting or a secure input path (partially done by PK under GNOME Shell, likely to get better under Wayland, not supported by sudo or su) Not relevant to the current discussion but this got me curious: can

Re: security policy / root passwords

Daniel Pocock dan...@trendhosting.net writes: My feeling is that the user should be told go and run sudo or su in a terminal window you opened manually I don't think terminal emulation is really a good solution here but your idea does have some merits. Maybe you can make your own policykit

Re: Blacklists in BTS (stopping the trolls and bug machines)

Ondřej Surý ond...@sury.org writes: affects bugno bug-improve I'd put such pseudo packages to a separate namespace. Some package might, while unlikely, be called bug-improve in the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Accepted systemtap 2.2.1-1 (source amd64 all)

: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server) systemtap-common - instrumentation

Accepted systemtap 2.1-1 (source amd64 all)

: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server) systemtap-common - instrumentation

Accepted magit 1.2.0-1 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 19:36:29 + Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Re: wheezy postmortem re rc bugfixing

Lucas Nussbaum lu...@debian.org writes: Also, we should be more agressive at getting down the number of RC bugs by automatically removing RC-buggy not-so-important packages. This sounds like a good idea. If somebody is interested in the package they can easily reintroduce it after they have

Re: Merging / and /usr

Marc Haber mh+debian-de...@zugschlus.de writes: Isn't that the one that doesn't even have a shell history or tab completion? At least in squeeze I have both. Try booting with e.g. break=top to see yourself. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: jessie release goals

Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes: provided as a hook. You also might want to look at the policyrcd-script-zg2 package. Except for chroots that do not run the boot-time scripts, this mechanism is mostly useless. /etc/init.d/rc doesn't know about policy-rc.d and thus you can't use it

Re: 2013 sometimes still feels like 2003 or 1993 (Re: NEW processing during freezes

Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes: Once we drop that and only give people the right to modify the software we distribute but no longer the possiblity to do so on their own, the Free we are so proud on gets mood. Doesn't pbuilder make it easy enough for anyone to modify and build the

Bug#706466: general: graphical applications launch in wrong session

Kevin Yochum kevi...@comcast.net writes: 1. Log in locally (gnome non-root login) 2. Install latest Google Chrome, if not already installed 3. Log in to the same system remotely with the same login (I use NetSarang XManager 4 from a Windows system) The bug might also be in NetSarang XManager

Re: alternative debian/rules

Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: Thorsten, you should have kept your custom debian/rules. If it prevented incompetent developers from NMUing the package, then all good for you and for Debian. Was there perhaps some emoticon missing? Uncommon debian/rules setups might be required in some

Re: Physical page zeroing on allocation

Viacheslav Fedorov nih...@frtk.ru writes: But let's say I trust my environment. Then why when I disable zeroing of the allocated pages, the applications crash in libc? How did you disable it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

Bug#704482: #704482 general: file copy over kde gui or cp to an usb devices (tried fat/ext3) is showen as finshed while it's still copying

package general severity 704482 wishlist tags 704482 -patch reassign 704482 konqueror thanks For cp this is not a bug, you are supposed to umount the filesystem before you remove the usb device. Nothing in man cp guarantees that the file has been copied to the disk when the command exits. For

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be writes: - md5_hex($name $alias obfuscate\n), \n; + hmac_sha256_hex($name, obfuscate), \n; part probably needs some further work. Should it be + hmac_sha256_hex($name, $alias + obfuscate), \n; This is for the dummy sheet. It only

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Kurt Roeckx k...@roeckx.be writes: I just pushed a change for this issue to my git repo at: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/kroeckx/devotee.git;a=summary I would be grateful if people can review that. commit e7f81870d1f8b18e5dcc855e9a001fab95112c0f (Fix generation of secret key for

Bug#704054: /etc/environment.d

adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net writes: Thanks, I can think of other solutions, it's just that I find this .d structure really clean, beautiful and simple to use. I personally would rather prefer a library interface so that it is possible to change the storage backend in the future. -- To

Re: history transparency

Philip Ashmore cont...@philipashmore.com writes: Is there a web interface for that, or a script that can do this? debsnap -a arch package version is quite useful. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Accepted systemtap 2.1-1~experimental1 (source amd64 all)

Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server) systemtap-common

Bug#702264: #702264 general: My mouse is a 3-button wheel mouse but system only recognizes 2 buttons (no wheel)

Hi, please provide some more information: 1) contents of the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log 2) output of the xev command when you click each button and try to scroll 3) output of the lsusb command Also, you are reporting the bug against debian 6.0.7. It is very unlikely that any bugs are going to

Accepted triplane 1.0.8-1 (source amd64)

-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: triplane - side-scrolling dogfighting game Closes: 693036 693037 693038 Changes: triplane (1.0.8-1) unstable; urgency=low . * New upstream release (Closes: #693037, #693038). * Fix icon name in .desktop file (Closes: #693036

Accepted magit 1.2.0-1~experimental1 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:49:45 + Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.2.0-1~experimental1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo

Re: WebRTC has landed

Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: JavaScript and give users of their package the ability to click'n'call other users within the web page. Have you had time to study how the technology works? If both parties are behind a HTTP proxy (for example at an airport or cafe with WIFI) I think

Re: WebRTC has landed

Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: - WebSockets carries the SIP signaling (e.g. to register the user location, find the person you want to call). WebSockets works through HTTP proxies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC does not mention SIP at all. I assume SIP is just one way to use

Re: tool to create debian/copyright files paragraphs?

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz glaub...@physik.fu-berlin.de writes: Has anybody already written a tool to automatically create the files section of the debian/copyright file? The tool should try to keep the files list short by using wildcards. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/git/git-copyright-scan.git/

Re: Linux Future

Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: You might find this useful: http://np237.livejournal.com/33449.html I made this presentation in the hope to make such things easier to understand for the sysadmin. I read that back then when you originally posted it and I still think it's one of the

Re: Linux Future

Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Yet full of misinformation, like the idea that using D-Bus makes a service less scriptable (while the reality is a complete opposite) I was bit puzzled by this part too but I guess the author meant mostly shell scripts here. If one uses e.g. python then

Re: unsafe use of gpg

Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: I recently looked at several packages using gpg to verify signatures Thanks for your work! Please try to raise this upstream so that they can provide proper interfaces. Is /usr/bin/gpgv --quiet --keyring /etc/myprogram/trusted.gpg file file.sig chmod

Re: unsafe use of gpg

Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org writes: Note that this adds a keyring to the current list. If the intent is to use the specified keyring alone, use --keyring along with --no-default-keyring. You probably read man gpg but gpgv is simpler: gpgv: Invalid option --no-default-keyring

Re: Mass bug filling about proprietary code of adobe in our type1 fonts

Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com writes: I plan to fill a mass bug filling due to a proprietary code of adobe in fonts hinting that is included in our fonts. If you report them at this stage of the release cycle and there's no easy solution I guess wheezy-ignore could be in order?

Re: Do not CC me

Vincent Danjean vincent.danj...@ens-lyon.org writes: Not always. My ISP (French Free/Proxad) seems to filter mail with the same Message-ID sent in a few period of time (a few minutes?) Interesting, this could explain the oddities that I've seen too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Bug#693695: general: error while loading shared libraries on system upgrade

forcemerge 685243 693695 thanks Victor Porton por...@narod.ru writes: /usr/lib/vlc/vlc-cache-gen: error while loading shared libraries: libvlccore.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I did a google search with libvlccore.so.5: cannot open shared object file you

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages

Philip Ashmore cont...@philipashmore.com writes: Debug packages also make back-traces more than useless, and They also allow systemtap to probe userland binaries once http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691167 is fixed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#687103: ITP: maps -- OpenStreetMap client for the GNOME Desktop

Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes: And navit and marble and foxtrotGPS and gpsdrive and viking and gpxviewer and memphis. Hey you forgot monav :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Stuff from /bin, /sbin, /lib depending on /usr/lib libraries

Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: If I need to have /usr mounted before init starts, then I'm more or less dead, and I'll have to get a recovery CD / USB. Not completely. Just boot with break=premount and read /etc/lvm from the initramfs shell. I've done this several times. The cool part

Re: Bug#684726: ITP: check_v46 -- Icinga / Nagios plugin for dual stacked (IPv4 / IPv6) hosts

Christoph Anton Mitterer cales...@scientia.net writes: Each package depends on exactly what it needs to work and recommends anything which adds e.g. additional features but doesn't cause non-graceful breakage if missing. I guess that really depends on what non-graceful breakage means. I

Re: [OT] ifconfig(8)

Ivan Shmakov oneing...@gmail.com writes: Curiously enough, ifconfig(8) shows RX/TX byte counts, and, somehow, I didn't manage to get a similar output from iproute. Any pointers? TIA. $ ip -s link show lo 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN

Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: I disagree. Maybe my statement was overly general indeed. I certainly agree with There is work to be done to make Debian attract more contributors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Debian stickers

Neil Williams codeh...@debian.org writes: The biggest problem is that none of the arbitrary strings which get printed on the packaging, product specs or even on the hardware itself have any direct link to the actual chipsets used and it is the chipsets which determine support. Most

Re: Recommends for metapackages

Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes: issues with NM: it doesn't seem to be tested with much in the way of non-standard setups My personal feeling is that this happens because people who use non-standard setups usually start by purging NM instead of trying to spend weeks reading the source code to

Re: RFC: Why are so many debian packages outdated?

Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes: NMUs should be made/allowed/encouraged? I know all packaging is made by volunteers at their spare time, but anyway. Debian is one of the best distributions, what about raising the bar a little higher? The only way you can really improve the

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes: Back in May I warned about CD sizes[1] for the Wheezy release, pointing out that CD#1 isn't big enough any more to provide usable Gnome or KDE installations. Indeed. CD1 was really problematic in squeeze too:

Accepted magit 1.1.1-3 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 16:19:41 +0300 Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.1-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Re: [RFC] Add upstream VCS info to control file

Gregor Jasny gja...@googlemail.com writes: Does this sound reasonable? Yes. Please also read the earlier thread http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/04/msg00356.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

Luke Cycon lcy...@gmail.com writes: I have the added issue that GNOME seems to (somehow) manage to spawn in excess of 100 Xserver when I try to log in. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650183 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: gnome is completely f^Mmessed up

Florian Reitmeir flor...@reitmeir.org writes: Is this a joke? Are we going to release that in June/July/whenever? i use gnome too, and for me its working very stable, and gnome3 is way better than gnome2. I installed wheezy to my old laptop a few months ago and was very happy with gnome too.

Re: Starting services automatically after install

Aaron Toponce aaron.topo...@gmail.com writes: By default in Debian, when a service package is installed, such as openssh-server, or isc-dhcp-server, it starts the service. This seems counter-intuitive to me. As you mentioned, this is a really old issue. I've documented my personal solution at

Accepted magit 1.1.1-2 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 14:35:24 + Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Re: Moving /tmp to tmpfs is fine

Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org writes: bazillion packages in debian that blithely cache vast quantities of (often very uninteresting) data in random subdirs of $HOME... and then Fortunately there is some movement towards the use of XDG_CACHE_DIR (defaults to ~/.cache). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: No, you don't. On a default Debian system you need to be a member of the floppy group. From /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules : Yeah but you are not a member of that group by default surely? You mean that they allow you to burn a CD but not write to a

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

Bjørn Mork bj...@mork.no writes: I fail to see how burning to a local user's CD is any better, but yes, if that is a consideration then they need some system to tie the rights to console access. I believe ConsoleKit and the replacement systemd-loginctl attempts to solve such problems. Yes, I

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

Jonathan Nieder jrnie...@gmail.com writes: speaking lets each user access media that they have inserted. Last time I checked[1] (a while ago), the same rules did not apply to USB sticks. Yes, this is the point I was trying to make in the first place :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes: And the USB-stick process is not as simple as it might be because you have to find the HD-media files and then _also_ find an iso image to put on. It's no wonder newbs are still downloading CD/DVD images. You also need to have root access to some machine to

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

Ben Armstrong sy...@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca writes: accomplish as the superuser.) What I wonder, though, is if it is universally true that ordinary users will always have write access to a USB key they've just inserted. Under what circumstances will they not? At least in default debian and

Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...

Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes: At this point, I'm skeptical that either of the first two are going to work acceptably with Wheezy. If that's the case, then we should warn people that they will need to use at least one of: I agree. I tried installing debian gnome desktop from CD1

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: votes in the final tally. If I knew the hashes sufficiently many (maybe 20?) voters I probably could predict the initial state of the RNG and reverse this randomization step completely. It seems that if you know the md5 hashes of only four

Re: thttpd

Oleg lego12...@yandex.ru writes: What email i can use to send patch for thttpd to? And is it normal that i cann't see thttpd package in wheezy? From http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/thttpd.html you can see that it has been removed: RoQA; orphaned, RC-buggy, dead upstream, plenty of

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Raphael Geissert geiss...@debian.org writes: print hmac_sha1_hex($v, $m); Yeah that sounds promising. Now we just need to fix the code that tries to randomize the order of entries in the tally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe.

devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Hello, I think I found a bug in devotee (debian vote engine) that breaks the secrecy elections. Devotee can be used in either public or secret mode. Leadership elections are done in the secret mode (constitution 5.2.5). In this mode devotee gives each voter V a secret moniker M and publishes

Re: devotee (debian vote engine): predictable RNG allows recovery of secret monikers

Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: Note that 8 random alphanumeric characters can have at most ~47.6 bits of entropy. So just improving RNG wouldn't help here. True. We need to both fix the RNG and use a longer moniker. Also, I just noticed that rand() is also used to randomize the order of

Re: On init in Debian

Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org writes: the particular script that poses problem. With a deamon like systemd, it's rather all-or-nothing. This gives me the impression that systemd would be a single monolithic binary but isn't vconsole-setup.c that you mention actually part of a small

Re: On init in Debian

Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes: How on earth would anybody be able to make a decision if there are no comparisons between the alternatives available? I personally decided to install systemd to one of my machines to learn how it works. I'd recommend this to anyone in this thread

Re: On init in Debian

Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes: taked with a friend working for redhat, and he told me how much he hates it. He told me that if *anything* goes wrong in the boot process, then basically, you're stuck, because the next thing will

Accepted systemtap 1.7-1 (source all amd64)

-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server) systemtap-common

Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains

Reinhard Tartler siret...@gmail.com writes: the libdvdread maintainer removed that really handy script. Not really related but it did have a security issue: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554772 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: A few questions from a new DD

olivier sallou olivier.sal...@gmail.com writes: 1) How can I send email using my @debian.org as origin ? That depends on the software you use. In gnus I have (setq user-mail-address timo.lindf...@iki.fi) In evolution you'd select Edit-Preferences-Mail Accounts-New and just fill the Email

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: Or, as has been said countless times otherwise: kFreeBSD should not hinder the improvement of the Linux ports. I agree. I also vaguely recall that we this was the consensus that we reached at the kfreebsd BoF Debconf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Enabling package installation for non-root users

Sebastian Heinlein de...@glatzor.de writes: APTDAEMON::Restrict::Users { joe, jane; }; APTDAEMON::Restrict::Tags::Allow { interface::shell; }; APTDAEMON::Restrict::Tags::Deny { interface::daemon; }; Would this be of any help to you? Sounds like a great start. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

Svante Signell svante.sign...@telia.com writes: policy? While at the time supporting non-linux systems (like kFreeBSD and Hurd, and others to come) I understood that Hurd does not use sysvinit either. Is that still the case? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Enabling package installation for non-root users

Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: (We even have a patch to allow only a subset of packages but it is unfortunately a bit too hackish.) Would be really nice to have some standard sets available (think browser extensions, command-line tools that ship no services or suid binaries). I'd

Re: upstart: please update to latest upstream version

Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes: Is there any way of capturing the old text output from /dev/console at a later stage in the boot? I personally use http://iki.fi/lindi/git/vtgrab-initramfs.git/ which starts rvcd (remote virtual console daemon) in the beginning of initramfs and

Accepted systemtap 1.7-1~experimental1 (source all amd64)

-1~experimental1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ritesh Raj Sarraf r...@debian.org Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: systemtap - instrumentation system for Linux systemtap-client - instrumentation system for Linux (client for compile server

Accepted magit 1.1.1-1 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:31:11 +0200 Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Accepted magit 1.1.0-1 (source all)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 02:31:11 +0200 Source: magit Binary: magit Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes: Do we have Debian running on phones with a configuration such that the root filesystem is small but /usr can be bigger? My openmoko has just $ df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 3.8G 3.0G 626M 83% / tmpfs

Bug#651575: general: usb drive (automount) has wrong permissions, regular user cannot read/write to device/folder

kenneth.h kenne...@airpost.net writes: It appears from web searching that this may have to do with udev rules. Usually, automounting allows user access but I am not able to read/write w/out having to manually changing permissions. 1) What are the permissions? 2) How are you automounting? The

Re: from / to /usr/: a summary

Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes: this is not waste time with an intramfs that will soon be superceded with a pivot-root. Not really related to the main issue but do note that pivot_root syscall has not been used for quite some time. run-init basically just uses unlink, mount, chroot and

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

Kai Wasserbäch cu...@debian.org writes: installations with CPUs with an instruction set 586 are still in use? Does popcon collect such information? popcon does not but smolt does. Unfortunately smotl ITP is still stuck. Meanwhile you can look at the data it has collected from opensuse and

Re: Increasing minimum 'i386' processor

Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: 5. AMD/NSC Geode GX1, Geode SC1100, Elan SC4xx and SC5xx Does this mean that AMD Geode LX as mentioned in http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm still works? damager:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 5

Re: /tmp as tmpfs and consequence for imaging software

Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes: and b) all software must deal with out-of-disk-space errors in a sensible way (where the exact details may depend on the software). That does not seem to be so easy: http://www.gnu.org/ghm/2011/paris/slides/jim-meyering-goodbye-world.pdf -- To

Accepted qi 20111113-1 (source armel)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:18:51 +0200 Source: qi Binary: qi Architecture: source armel Version: 2013-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Changed-By: Timo Juhani Lindfors

Accepted omhacks 0.16-1 (source amd64)

Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Description: libomhacks-dev - library of useful functions to control OpenMoko hardware libomhacks0 - library of useful functions to control OpenMoko hardware omhacks- command line interface to OpenMoko hardware Changes: omhacks (0.16-1) unstable; urgency

Re: udev: what does it used for in Debian?

Ivan Shmakov i...@gray.siamics.net writes: And what the initramfs-tools package has to do with consistent devices' filenames? Initramfs runs udev. This allows you to use e.g. root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD3200AAJS-65B4A0_WD-WMAT13954017-part1 instead of root=/dev/sda1 to

Re: RFC: usb-modeswitch 1.2.0 release embedding jimtcl

Didier Raboud o...@debian.org writes: Let's also note as context that the goal of this trick (AFAIUI) is to avoid having a tcl interpreter pulled up to first CDs; The modemmanager package that people typically use with USB 3G modems is already in CD#5. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

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