Re: [RFC] Collecting changelog entries in projectb

2010-02-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:39:45PM +0100, Luca Falavigna wrote: Hi, FTP team and I are currently writing a new feature in dak which will collect changelog entries and store them in projectb, to be later used for other purposes (e.g. to write point release changelogs, see [1]). Isn't this

Re: GPL-licensed software linked against libssl on buildds!

2010-02-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:37:48PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 20/01/10 at 00:48 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:22:33PM +1300, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Why spend a lot of time on tasks that provide little benefit, and also some disadvantages (in some cases,

Accepted ipcfg 0.3 (source amd64)

2010-01-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:36:35 +0100 Source: ipcfg Binary: ipcfg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.3 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org

Accepted ipcfg 0.1 (source amd64)

2010-01-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:58:09 +0200 Source: ipcfg Binary: ipcfg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org

Accepted ipcfg 0.2 (source amd64)

2010-01-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:43:09 +0100 Source: ipcfg Binary: ipcfg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org

FOSDEM 2010, redux

2009-12-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, (people not likely to be at FOSDEM in Brussels, Belgium, on the 6th and 7th of February 2010 may skip this mail...) So, since nothing seemed to be happening for the FOSDEM 2010 distributions miniconference thing, I poked the list a bit, and now proposals are flowing in. For those interested

Re: defaulting to net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 for squeeze

2009-12-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 08:24:31PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: I am proposing to set net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 by default for new installations, to simplify configuration and administration of systems using IPv6 and to make the system behaviour match the one of all other operating systems, which

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:17:30PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:39:28PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: There's no reason that ucf *should* fall under either of these rules; so even if ucf /didn't/ work the way it does, the right solution here would be to fix it

Re: FOSDEM 2010

2009-12-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:10:41AM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: On Saturday 28 November 2009 15:50:37 Wouter Verhelst wrote: For those of you who were waiting for a call for talks from me on this subject, it's not really coming. However, if you think your talk may be of some interest

Re: dpkg-source: should not fallback to other formats without user intervention

2009-12-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:20:03AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: It has been suggested on IRC that having dpkg-source switch back to native mode if it can't find the .orig tarball was probably a bad idea from the beginning and that it tends to confuse people. However, with the addition of new

Re: Debian as open project

2009-12-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 07:54:51AM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Sorry, but I cannot disclose what is told to me in private. Yes you can, you just cannot do it without announcing it beforehand to the parties involved. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.14-2 (source amd64)

2009-11-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:56:48 +0100 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.14-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Re: GR proposal: the AGPL does not meet the DFSG (take 2)

2009-11-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 08:52:23PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: Dear developers, I respectfully submit this general resolution proposal to your consideration. (this GR proposal supersedes the proposal in 20090318235044.ga30...@yellowpig) Asking for seconds, (please CC me) Bill.

Bug#554194: ifupdown virtual package name and mass-filing (if accepted)

2009-11-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, ifupd...@packages.debian.org Hi all, As you may or may not know, I've been working on an alternative implementation of ifup and ifdown, which I call 'ipcfg', for a few months now[1]. The code is now nearly at

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.14-1 (source amd64)

2009-10-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:24:17 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.14-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.13-5 (source amd64)

2009-09-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:21:25 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.13-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Re: Changes in the maintenance of the Developers Reference

2009-09-22 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:40:51PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: Debian Policy has a more formal process than developers-reference and I am concerned that mixing both discussions on the same channel would cause confusion. debian-de...@l.d.o could be a better channel for the

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 07:46:08AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: On native package the debian/changelog is also used for upstream changelog: upstreams tend to package their packages as native. [...] Thus non debian specific package, which are also native, should (must on GPL licensed

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Sigh. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 09:25:39AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: That doesn't follow. You're assuming it's going to be impossible to keep the original debian/changelog file, and/or that the only way to package something that an upstream has packaged as native

Re: Proposed mass bug filing: Perl 5.10.1 breaks 'make install PREFIX=$(TMP)/usr'

2009-09-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:39:40AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Sep 13, Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org wrote: 246 packages failed to build with 'Error 13' at the end of the log, It's a big number. Can you add a temporary workaround for a few months until most packages are fixed? Er, why would

Re: Faster boot by running init.d scripts in parallel

2009-09-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 01:05:32PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: If you want to test this feature in testing or unstable, use this command: echo CONCURRENCY=makefile /etc/default/rcS It will enable makefile style concurrency, and run N scripts in parallel during boot, where N is

Re: Explicitely Cc bug reporters

2009-09-11 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 02:15:43PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: I don't find the existing behavior confusing, especially since there is -submitter@ The problem with the -submitter@ mail alias is that it does not get changed in the forward, so that when a submitter hits 'reply' in his MUA, he

Re: library-related policy question

2009-09-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 01:50:45PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 15:14:21 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: As of today, debian does not contain this bug, because ffmpeg with this brakage happened not to be uploaded yet to debian. However, once it is, the bug

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 11:22:30AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: We have a lot of troubles when upstreams ship a debian/ directory in upstream tarball, thus I'll expect derivatives will have similar problems I don't see it that way. The reason why we have 'a lot of troubles' when

Re: tigase xmpp server package

2009-09-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 08:43:30PM +0200, Mateusz Fiołka wrote: Hi, I am on of the Tigase XMPP server developers. Tigase is written purely in Java and is meant to be high performing, scalable and extensible. Some time ago one of our users contributed deb packages. There is even an

Re: trayer_1.1_i386.changes REJECTED

2009-09-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 07:09:01PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: From the changelog: * Upstream has abandoned the program, so the package is now Debian native. Switching upstreams does not make a package native. How so? There is no reason why a package where the upstream and the

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 01:31:40AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Le Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 12:47:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : I know it is fancy and modern to think that Debian native packages should only be used for things that are specific

Re: Of the use of native packages for programs not specific to Debian.

2009-09-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 10:04:49PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: True. However, if something is not explicitly forbidden by Policy (and this isn't), and it does not cause (obvious) harm to Debian as a whole (which this doesn't), there is no good reason why people should

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.13-4 (source amd64)

2009-08-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:25:54 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.13-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.13-3 (source amd64)

2009-08-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:16:49 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.13-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Accepted belpic 2.6.0-7 (source amd64)

2009-07-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Description: beid-tools - SmartCard utilities from the OpenSC project, compiled against lib beidgui- application to read out information from the Belgian electronic I libbeid2

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 07:38:54AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2009-07-21, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: The long wait is the signing, not the dinstall run. Even without accepted dinstall runs 4 times a day now. But I have to say I'm totaly against unsigned uploads. The

Re: Intend to create an -fPIC library package...

2009-07-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 12:40:17AM +0200, Christian Hammers wrote: Am Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:18:23 +0100 schrieb Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net: If other libraries are including this library, then why is libmysqld not being provided as a properly-versioned shared object? Upstream, in this

Re: Intend to create an -fPIC library package...

2009-07-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 09:17:28AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Wouter Verhelst] Whether we should recommend using static libraries is another matter entirely; indeed performance does go down a teeny weeny bit when using shared libraries, but the difference shouldn't be *that* large

Re: piuparts run by every uploader (was: lintian-like tools in teams / early lintian stories)

2009-07-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 05:22:07PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi [2009.07.21.1527 +0200]: piuparts is _intended_ to be run by every uploader, actually. Or at least that was my intention back when I wrote it. Okay, that wasn't my impression, sorry for

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 03:45:13PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: On 2009-07-18, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: Ah, so this is about not interfering with testing migration, I guess? It's not only testing migration. As an example: If you have a large chain of binNMUs which all need

Accepted flash-kernel 2.20 (source armel)

2009-07-19 Thread Wouter Verhelst
...@lists.debian.org Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Description: flash-kernel - utility to make certain embedded devices bootable flash-kernel-installer - Make the system bootable (udeb) Changes: flash-kernel (2.20) unstable; urgency=low . * Add support for Lanner EM7210 and compatibles

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.13-2 (source amd64)

2009-07-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:25:26 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.13-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:57:25PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Michael Biebl] Would it make sense to avoid the upload of obviously broken packages from buildds in the future. E.g. if lintian detects an error it would need some special inspection from the buildd uploader. Don't all

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:19:50AM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote: Not? Was the originally uploaded package correct? Amazing. Hm. Then, it should be lintian errors that denote a build as a failure, indeed, and these should somehow be detected by the mechanism that uploads the packages ... not by

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:44:54AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 11:19:50AM +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote: Not? Was the originally uploaded package correct? Amazing. Hm. Then, it should be lintian errors that denote a build as a failure, indeed

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:10:56PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Right. However, having sbuild run lintian would allow a buildd maintainer to assess issues with packages by looking at *warnings*, rather than 'just' errors. This isn't something an automated system can do

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 09:05:29PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:10:56PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Right. However, having sbuild run lintian would allow a buildd maintainer to assess issues with packages by looking at *warnings

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.13-1 (source amd64)

2009-07-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:18:51 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.13-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-07-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 06:00:11PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 08:52:14PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: Even if this were true (which I doubt), I'm quite certain that whether or not you use your real name on a piece of software has any relevance whatsoever

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-07-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 11:24:29AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Giacomo Catenazzi c...@cateee.net writes: A naive question: why does not FSF check identity of contributors? They must sign a copyright assignment (or disclaimer), send this document to FSF, but I see no identity check on FSF

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of same licence and share copyright holders

2009-06-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:53:11AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org writes: I'm finding it difficult to believe the argument oh, but this isn't going to be mandatory. I don't know anyone making the argument that there should *never* be a mandatory machine

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of same licence and share copyright holders

2009-06-12 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 09:30:31AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 06:10:56PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: If the sole purpose of the format is to have a machine-parseable format, if it doesn't apply to all packages, then the fact that it is machine-parseable is useless,

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.12-1 (source amd64)

2009-06-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:42:25 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.12-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.12-2 (source amd64)

2009-06-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:15:16 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:2.9.12-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Re: Transition of initscripts to new order / sequence number

2009-04-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 08:07:16PM +0200, Jan Wagner wrote: Hi, On Saturday 04 April 2009, Kel Modderman wrote: On Thursday 19 March 2009 00:35:06 Jan Wagner wrote: while thinking about how to solve #508189, where I need to change the position of the initscript in bootorder, I thought

Re: Architecture usertags

2009-03-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:59:25AM -0600, dann frazier wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 05:30:19PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: I made a short overview of this on the wiki, at http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Debbugs/ArchchitectureTags Got an extra ch in there? That was pointed out on IRC, too

Re: Architecture usertags

2009-03-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 07:03:26PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Now almost a month ago, I asked Don Armstrong to create architecture tags in the BTS. I've always felt that such a thing would be useful, because often porters are unaware of architecture-specific bugs, simply

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 01:17:01AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 21, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: While 1.6% is indeed a rather small amount, I wouldn't call 1340 people 'trivial'. I do, since I expect that most of these are using sarge or worse. There's no proof

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:55:58AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Wouter Verhelst: On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Bernd Zeimetz: Being able to rename an interface without messing with udev is a feature, not a bug. I think you can't rename most

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:53:19AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 20, Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: It is still possible to install and run Lenny without the use of udev, and many people do so. popcon shows that the number is trivial. Definitely not many. popcon tells me

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:53:55PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: * Bernd Zeimetz: Being able to rename an interface without messing with udev is a feature, not a bug. I think you can't rename most interfaces after the boot process anyway. Or has the kernel been changed and can rename

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 11:07:29PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: On Mar 15, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote: Being able to rename an interface without messing with udev is a feature, not a bug. Every relevant Linux distribution requires udev, and so do many important features of Debian

Re: net-tools future

2009-03-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:05:53AM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk writes: You can do this with ethtool now, and more cleanly: link-speed 100 link-duplex full Yes, I know. But that means that existing working configurations have to be modified.

Re: Bug#419209: lvm2: Hangs during snapshot creation

2009-03-05 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:45:24AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: Am Do den 5. Mär 2009 um 9:48 schrieb Bastian Blank: severity 419209 important It is critical as it breaks the whole system! I do not want to start a severity war with you but please do not set the severity to wrong level.

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 12:58:20AM -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: OK, good. So if Jorg were to dual license libscg, this would be sufficient for Debian to believe that they are able to distribute it? This is far weaker than the demand that all of the software be dual licensed or GPLed. Whether or

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:09:29PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: You are uninformed: libc on Linux is under LGPL and the LGPL is as incompatible to GPL as the CDDL is incomparible to the GPL. Er? - GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 3, 29 June 2007 [...] 7. Additional Terms. Additional

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 02:14:41PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Attacks from Debian against the cdrtools project caused the license to be changed. Debian now needs to live with this change. We have. We forked cdrtools, as is perfectly okay with most open source projects. -- Lo-lan-do Home

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 02:57:23PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Matthew Johnson mj...@debian.org wrote: On Tue Mar 03 14:14, Joerg Schilling wrote: Attacks from Debian against the cdrtools project caused the license to be changed. Debian now needs to live with this change. We do

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 03:41:40PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 01:09:29PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: You are uninformed: libc on Linux is under LGPL and the LGPL is as incompatible to GPL as the CDDL is incomparible

Re: xcdroast does no longer work with wodim: Who to blame?

2009-03-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:58:34PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bill Unruh un...@physics.ubc.ca wrote: Attacks from Debian against the cdrtools project caused the license to be changed. Debian now needs to live with this change. Unfortunately it is not Debian who have to live with

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.11-4 (source powerpc)

2009-02-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:51:16 +0100 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1:2.9.11-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.11-3 (source powerpc)

2009-01-30 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 03:03:37 +0100 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1:2.9.11-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Re: Bits from the Debian CD team

2009-01-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:32:07PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: That depends on what you mean by a multiarch Blu-ray image. The inherent nastiness of the HFS hybrid code means that we probably won't be able to produce BD images including powerpc at all. BD boot code is identical to that on CD

Accepted belpic 2.6.0-6 (source powerpc)

2009-01-13 Thread Wouter Verhelst
: unstable Urgency: high Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Description: beid-tools - SmartCard utilities from the OpenSC project, compiled against lib beidgui- application to read out information from the Belgian electronic I libbeid2

Re: Results for General Resolution: Lenny and resolving DFSG violations

2008-12-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 09:55:36PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: I wish we could have in the world of GNU/Linux one, just one, please--just one--distribution which really took free software as of cardinal importance. Debian has promised to be that, while living up to the promise only in

[s...@powerlinux.fr: Re: Results for General Resolution: Lenny and resolving DFSG violations]

2008-12-29 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, Sven asked me to forward this message to the list. Since it does not contain any of the vitriol for which he was expelled from the project, and since it does contain some valid points on the discussion in question, I decided to comply with his request. I'd like to say, though, that this does

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.11-2 (source powerpc)

2008-12-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 07:54:50 +0100 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1:2.9.11-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst wou...@debian.org Changed

Accepted recoverjpeg 1.1.1-1.3 (source powerpc)

2008-09-06 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 22:57:06 +0200 Source: recoverjpeg Binary: recoverjpeg Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1.1.1-1.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Cyril Bouthors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst

Re: people.debian.org to move to ravel

2008-08-28 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 02:00:31PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote: Once the move has been completed we expect to make gluck restricted to the people operating the services that will remain on gluck, so please clean out your homedir when you no longer need it there. So what's going to happen with

Accepted recoverjpeg 1.1.1-1.2 (source powerpc)

2008-08-27 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:30:52 +0200 Source: recoverjpeg Binary: recoverjpeg Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1.1.1-1.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Cyril Bouthors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst

Re: 1 of 400 dpkg databases corrupt?

2008-08-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 09:13:42AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [Russ Allbery] It's not *impossible*... someone could be running the scripts from the package without having the package installed. I don't know why they'd do that, though, or whether that's a more plausible explanation

Re: Hardware compatibility test: draft proposal

2008-08-24 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:05:49AM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: As I mentioned in my blog[1], I kindof like the suggestion that Bdale came up with during Debconf that we write a hardware compatibility test of sorts that hardware vendors could run on their own hardware

Re: Hardware compatibility test: draft proposal

2008-08-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:55:34PM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: Wouter Verhelst wrote: Hi, As I mentioned in my blog[1], I kindof like the suggestion that Bdale Yes, I find the talk very interesting. So, after more than twelve hours of boredom on an airplane and half a night

Hardware compatibility test: draft proposal

2008-08-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, As I mentioned in my blog[1], I kindof like the suggestion that Bdale came up with during Debconf that we write a hardware compatibility test of sorts that hardware vendors could run on their own hardware to test whether Debian works on their system. The rationale for such a test: while most

Re: Some autobuilders wait for build-indep dependencies

2008-08-20 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 12:10:28PM +0200, Francisco Moya wrote: [...] Debian Policy only knows as much as what we put in it. Therefore it isn't almighty, and it *certainly* isn't a stick to beat people with, as you're trying to do here. The fact that some insanity isn't in policy doesn't

Re: Some autobuilders wait for build-indep dependencies

2008-08-16 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 10:51:08PM +0200, FRANCISCO MOYA FERNANDEZ wrote: I already know that people do also build their own packages, thanks. You do not need to rewire the debian/rules in order to build zeroc-ice binary-arch packages but AFAIK in your PowerPC you cannot currently build

Re: Some autobuilders wait for build-indep dependencies

2008-08-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:29:53AM +0200, Francisco Moya wrote: Hi, I've uploaded a new version of zeroc-ice packages which essentially falls back to target build-arch whenever the autobuilder tries the build target on architectures other than i386. I hope the Build-Options control field

Accepted logtool 1.2.8-7 (source powerpc)

2008-07-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:10:07 +0200 Source: logtool Binary: logtool Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1.2.8-7 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL

Re: gnome, kde, xfce use non-policy main menu

2008-07-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 03:15:28AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: Hi, On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 02:42 -0400, Daniel Dickinson wrote: For discussion: Gnome, KDE, and XFCE are the the top three desktops used in debian and cover most users of desktops in debian. They all use xdg

Re: Bug#444980: udev not restarted after exiting runlevel 1

2008-07-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 04:56:02PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: Marco d'Itri wrote: Actually, should udev be killed at all when switching to single user mode? I don't think so. Single user mode is for sysadmin tasks and I'd say that the udev daemon should be running for those as performing

Re: Bug#431066: install network/ip-up.d script to check for IP duplicates

2008-07-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 11:28:51AM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Seems like this script really belongs in the examples directory. IMHO it is an RFC requirement, however the solution with a synchronous Eh, that does not parse. Either it is a matter of

Re: Bug#426877: dpkg: Option --oknodo should be the default behaviour for start-stop-daemon (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 11:02:13PM +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: I think being LSB compliant is good for Debian. That may be so; but changing a long-standing interface with no migration is /not/ good for Debian. -- Lo-lan-do Home is where you have to wash the dishes. -- #debian-devel,

Accepted belpic 2.6.0-5 (source powerpc)

2008-07-04 Thread Wouter Verhelst
: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: beid-tools - SmartCard utilities from the OpenSC project, compiled against lib beidgui- application to read out information from the Belgian electronic I libbeid2

Accepted belpic 2.6.0-4 (source powerpc)

2008-07-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: beid-tools - SmartCard utilities from the OpenSC project, compiled against lib beidgui- application to read out information from the Belgian electronic I libbeid2

Re: Time to phase out net-tools?

2008-06-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:35:32AM +0200, jaromil wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 re all, right now a lot of people is relying on debian for server setups, very serious stuff :| if you think to replace something so crucial as a network based CLI tool and its

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 12:31:49AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote: Hi, I am wondering if it is a good idea to remove lilo entirely. At the moment, lilo has been pulled from testing, and the code is in a shape where a grave bug (bug #479607) is unlikely fixable without severe refactoring of

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:49:40PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 18 juin 2008 à 09:52 +0300, Eric Pozharski a écrit : On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: OTOH, aren't most of these choosing

Re: Non-free question regarding upstream releasing different binary-only tarballs for different architectures

2008-06-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 08:36:55PM +0100, Martin Meredith wrote: Hi there. I currently maintain rar and unrar-nonfree in debian. When uscanning for the latest version of rar - it started to download the x64 version, which I haven't seen before. Anyway - It seems that upstream are now

dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, Currently dbus' initscript, when invoked with the stop, start, or restart arguments, will also restart services that depend on dbus. I think this is broken, but in an IRC discussion, Sjoerd Simons, one of the maintainers disagreed. My arguments: There are three cases where an initscript is

Re: dbus and initscripts

2008-06-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 08:44:06PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 07:34:22PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: - Stuff is broken, and I want to debug. This debugging might involve stopping and starting services one at a time. The current dbus setup makes

Accepted nbd 1:2.9.11-1 (source powerpc)

2008-05-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 21:22:53 +0200 Source: nbd Binary: nbd-server nbd-client nbd-client-udeb Architecture: source powerpc Version: 1:2.9.11-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Wouter Verhelst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed

Re: Restart automatic build

2008-04-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 11:59:39PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: On 06/04/2008, Ludovico Cavedon wrote: automatic build of wengophone [1] on arm failed because of a GCC internal compiler error. Who should I ask to request a retry of the build? [EMAIL PROTECTED] However, if the reason

Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-04-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 12:44:38PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Neat project. I am not sure why being able to install 3.0r3 rather than 3.0r6 is necesarily very useful, but it is neat to have the choice. To have reproducibility of installations, where such is necessary (e.g., software escrow

Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-04-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 03:35:57PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello, I have had an accident on my Debian-Archiv-Server and unfortunatly the files Packages.gz, Packages.bz2, Sources.gz, Sources.bz2 and Release from the directories /debian/dists/${RELEASE}/main/binary-${ARCH}/

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