Hi Mohamed,
On Mon, Sep 02, 2024 at 12:41:54PM +0200, Mohamed Aboelenein wrote:
>Hello,
>I am not exactly sure if this is the right way to do it. If not, I hope
>you notify me.
This isn't the right forum, indeed. The debian-vote mailinglist is meant
for votes by Debian Developers as p
On Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 04:04:18PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> Hi Wouter,
>
> Am Sun, Apr 07, 2024 at 03:31:43PM +0200 schrieb Wouter Verhelst:
> > [Feel free to quote any part of this email which I wrote outside of this
> > mailinglist]
>
> OK, moving the discussi
On Wed, Jan 03, 2024 at 04:43:45PM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2023 at 10:41:57AM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> > We can restore lost files in a postinst. For this to work, we must
> > duplicate (e.g. hard link) affected files in the data.tar.
> > Example: #1057220 (systemd-sysv u
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:55:03PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
[...]
> More cogently: where are we going to get our fortunes from - where's the
> canonical source now that FreeBSD has gone?
>
> Who is going to take responsibility for checking quotes and translations
> in all languages and dea
On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 07:09:00PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 06:06:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> > https://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct.en starts off with:
> >
> &g
On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 02:28:22PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 19, 2023 at 07:11:11PM +0200, Dominik George wrote:
> > >The mission you have chosen for yourself, then, is to identify all those
> > >things in the Debian distribution that are not constitutive of an
> > >operating s
On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 10:31:35PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 at 22:29, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > According to Lintian there are 314 packages shipping init scripts
> > without a corresponding systemd unit:
> >
> > https://lintian.debian.org/tags/missing-system
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 11:24:15PM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On Wed May 31, 2023 at 12:44 PM CEST, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
[...]
> > 20+ year old machines are typically more power hungry, more expensive,
> > less performant, and less reliable than an up-to-date raspberry pi.
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 12:51:06AM +0200, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> While it may be a no-brainer for a person with a $/€ 1000 a month residual
> income to just buy new hardware whenever they feel like it, that is not the
> case for everyone.
[...]
> It's absolutely true that modern machines are m
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 08:20:27AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daniel Baumann writes:
> > On 2/22/23 14:26, Peter Pentchev wrote:
>
> >> Wait, I may have been unclear. I did not mean that I want to omit the
> >> upstream copyright years *when they are there*.
>
> > I know you didn't mean that,
On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 01:30:42PM +0100, Timo Röhling wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> * Andreas Henriksson [2023-01-28 12:50]:
> > Policy is not a religion. Policy has many bugs. Policy is very outdated.
> > [...]
> > Here's an example you could follow:
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2022/1
Hi Ian,
On Fri, Jan 06, 2023 at 04:59:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Paul Gevers writes ("Re: Multi-host networking software, autopkgtests"):
> > I guess this is best discussed in https://bugs.debian.org/908274 (added
> > in the To)? Maybe with Wouter and other interested parties?
>
> Hmmm. W
Hi Ian,
On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 10:41:13AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> I would like to add the following entry to the table of build
> profiles in BuildProfileSpec:
>
> Profile anme: `cargo-upstream`
> Can cause changes to built binaries, including functional chnges. (Y)
> Should not cause cha
On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 04:13:57PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:08:57PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> >On Thu, Oct 06, 2022 at 05:13:22PM +0200, Tobias Frost wrote:
> >> Maybe and idea would to do something like isa-support does for e.g
> >> sseX-support
> >> on CPUs
Hi Dylan,
Something in pipewire caused my laptop to lose all audio. Since I work
remotely and need to attend meetings over various video conferencing
tools, that was not an option for me, so I reverted back to pulseaudio
by removing everything from src:pipewire from my laptop and rebooting,
which
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 02:26:03PM +0200, Emanuele Rocca wrote:
> [1] I already have alsa, jack, pulseaudio, pipewire packages
> installed... At least no oss anymore! :)
Since OSS is completely in-kernel, you actually do :-)
(and yes, it still works. I own some ancient non-free games, they only
s
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 10:40:28AM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote:
>
>
> > On 14 Sep 2022, at 10:37, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 03:09:07PM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote:
> >> Yes, you’re right. However, my reservation is whether dpkg
On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 03:09:07PM +0300, Hakan Bayındır wrote:
> Yes, you’re right. However, my reservation is whether dpkg is more prone to
> breaking in disaster recovery scenarios. Reading a gzipped file is always
> simpler than querying a DB via more abstraction.
Honestly though, the way to t
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 04:37:46PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Yadd (2022-08-19 10:21:17)
> > some months ago, a bad upstream tag changed node-markdown-it version to
> > 22.2.3 instead of 10.0.0. So I'd like to change node-markdown-it version
> > into 1:13.0.1
>
> Since upstream is
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 07:06:59PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> I don't like the idea of messing with old NEWS entries at all.
I'm trying to understand why you feel this way.
A NEWS.Debian entry is not aimed towards developers; it is meant as
documentation shown to the user when upgrading. Having a
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 09:00:22PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 18:40:11 +, Simon McVittie
> >--disabled-login: the new account has an empty password but is "locked";
> >so password authentication will fail, but "unlocking" the account will
> >result in login being accepted wi
On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:25:45PM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst
>aspic
>logtool
Yeah, no. These will be reduced to "wishlist" and probably tagged
"wontfix".
The packages work just fine, the source format is still supported, I
have bet
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:52:42AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> I don't have anything like a design for how that should look in my head
> though -- I guess interested parties should get together and come up
> with a design _before_ we start trying to implement it :-)
This sounds like you need some
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 12:51:45AM +, Seth Arnold wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 08:02:50PM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> > The only missing bit AFAIK is getting the step where tasksel gets
> > installed into the target system, and then run, to be able to grab the
> > version of tasksel to use
Hi,
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 03:29:06PM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
>
>
> On തി, ജനു 3 2022 at 12:09:10 രാവിലെ +0200 +0200, Peter Pentchev
> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 02:59:26AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a way to add a new locale/language to
Hi Maxime,
On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 07:47:47PM +0100, Maxime Lombard wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I'm an user of Debian since 10 years ago and it's only now that i decide
>to help to packaging.
>I send this email about wine and wine-development package which are not
>updated since a very
On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 02:43:56AM +, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I think that there's a security consideration associated with all these
> proposals for externalizing finding upstream updates. Currently watch files
> and at least the redirectors I know of all run on Debian infrastructure or on
>
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 12:22:18PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 9/28/21 12:13, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > IOW, chill out, nobody's going to kill off partman unless there's
> > something that's *actually* better than partman.
>
> Just some
On Tue, Sep 28, 2021 at 06:19:28AM -0400, nick black wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst left as an exercise for the reader:
> > One thing that partman does is "support plug-ins", to allow for
> > configuring block devices before being able to partition them, where
> > neede
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 03:18:48PM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>
> > On Sep 27, 2021, at 2:25 PM, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> >
> > Even if that interpretation would work as an excuse to never do
> > anything, and I'm not really sure it does, this specification has been
> > published i
Hi Nick,
On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 06:25:03PM -0400, nick black wrote:
> Marc Haber left as an exercise for the reader:
> > But maybe an alternative? I find the partitioning step one of the most
> > error-prone and hard-to-use parts of non-trivial Debian installations.
>
> so overall, i've got to s
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:45:06AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:11:06AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Normally one would get "Connection refused" when connecting to a port
> > that isn't open,
>
> "Connection refused" is generated by TCP reset packets.
That, or ICMP type
On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 09:57:09AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes:
> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 08:23:50AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> >> If we tried to document every random bit of buggy packaging behavior
> >> anyone thought of in Policy, Po
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 08:23:50AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Luca Boccassi writes:
>
> > Thank you - it has been brought up in this thread as an example of a
> > valid setup, so if it is not, I think it could be good to be extra clear
> > in the policy? How about the following:
>
> If we trie
On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 04:12:43AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 2:31 PM Aivar Annamaa wrote:
>
> > Is here someone, who can meet me in Tartu, Estonia or is willing to
> > arrange this over the internet? Perhaps I could sign a statement about
> > my identity with Estonian ID ca
On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 02:40:02PM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-08-21 at 10:26 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > It bothers me that you believe "we've been doing this for a while
> > and it didn't cause any problems, so let's just continue doing
>
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 07:20:22PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> Yes transparent proxies or overridden DNS lookups could be used to
> direct deb.debian.org and security.debian.org to your alternative
> location,
I've been thinking for a while that we should bake a feature in apt
whereby a network
On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:11:33PM +, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> On 2021-08-19 16:37:13 -0400 (-0400), Kyle Edwards wrote:
> > On 8/19/21 3:46 PM, Simon Richter wrote:
> > > For the most part, users would configure https if they are behind a
> > > corporate firewall that disallows http, or modifie
On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:21:55AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-08-19 at 19:55 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 10:39:45PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> > >
> > > I think no one likes that idea, but it's the only solution that doesn't
> > > immediately fail bec
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 04:47:32PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 03:59:50PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > because here, our focus would be to publish things :)
> > Sure. But also to find problems early rather than late, no?
>
> no.
Well, then
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 04:17:01PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 16, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:53:20AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > > Implementations with real /bin /sbin /lib* directories and symlink farms
> > > are not
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 01:19:23PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 01:12:37AM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote:
> > Would you agree that there is an issue with sudo access that is enabled
> > by default on most Debian and Debian-based distributions? The bug may
> > not be in apt, b
On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 07:48:06AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Backports is not analogous to the concepts Timothy was presenting. It's
> *one* repository, not a system where people (not just Debian maintainers)
> can create repos.
extrepo tries to help there, and now that bullseye is released
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:16:57AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-08-13 at 07:53 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > Implementations with real /bin /sbin /lib* directories and symlink farms
> > are not useful because they would negate the major benefits of
> > merged-/usr, i.e. the ability
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 07:53:20AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> Implementations with real /bin /sbin /lib* directories and symlink farms
> are not useful because they would negate the major benefits of
> merged-/usr, i.e. the ability of sharing and independently updating
> /usr.
In those cases,
Hi Holger,
On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 05:12:54PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi Wouter,
>
> sorry for the late reply but I think it's still relevant...
> (just thus rather leaving almost full quote as context.)
>
> On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 11:25:26AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 04:26:34PM +0200, Simon Richter wrote:
> Also, take care when moving shell commands from a shell script: the bash
> shell at least keeps a cache of commands to paths so it doesn't have to do a
> full path search every time. A shell script that calls
>
> mv /bin/cp /usr/
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 06:53:01PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 03:25:48PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I'm worried about systems being written to completely bypass the dpkg
> > database.
> Like alternatives and things that create
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 02:13:33PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> On 2021-07-27 Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >>> I've suggested pr
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 03:20:05PM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 15:53:32 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > I've suggested previously that we can easily make it RC for bookworm to
> > have a file outside a limited set of directories (/etc and /usr
On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 03:10:42PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Hi Guillem
>
> Am 19.07.21 um 03:36 schrieb Guillem Jover:
> > What I've also said multiple times, is that
> > merged-usr-via-moves-and-symlink-farms could have been implemented in
> > a fully automated way, by debhelper, w/o requiri
On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 12:31:10PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 02:09:36PM +0200, Mathieu Parent (Debian) wrote:
> > > Do you have plans to support publishing builds only if they've produced
> > > bit by bit identical results on several builders? IOW, do you plan to
> > > s
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 01:04:21PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Jonathan Carter writes:
>
> > I think that framing the problems and noting them while the last GR is
> > still fresh in our collective memories will be really useful. I don't
> > think anyone should feel too much pressure right now t
Hi Sam,
On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 10:58:51AM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Certainly in the systemd process there were a number of short comings
> that came to light that are worth improving:
>
> 1) The person who introduces a GR is treated differently than anyone who
> introduces an amendment in way
So.
On Sun, Feb 07, 2021 at 01:40:39PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I just noticed how maintainers are NMU'ing packages in large quantities to
> get them somehow in a usable state for the release. The packages get small
> patches so that they are more or less working and c
Hi Sven,
On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:44:42AM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2020-11-22 11:29 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > What am I missing?
>
> I think this happens because g++ passes --as-needed to the linker in
> unstable, but not in stable. Your test program is co
Hi,
For the past year, I've been (on and off) working with ola upstream on
getting new-gcc (first 9, then 10) and python3 issues resolved, so that
I would be able to get it into bullseye again. We're almost there,
except for one thing that mystifies me.
As part of the autopkgtest, I build a small
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 01:39:10AM +0300, ajsjajis eihwjshs wrote:
>Its legal to making Linux distro and sharing with changing Debian logos
>codes etc.
Yes, it is legal, absolutely.
--
To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy
-- seen somewhere on the Internet o
On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 09:16:21AM +0100, Philip Hands wrote:
> Rogério Brito writes:
>
> > Dear people,
> >
> > As many of you may know, the RIAA issued a resquest for GitHub to take down
> > the youtube-dl repository.
>
> IANAL so I may be confused, but AIUI that takedown is based on the
> not
Package: debian-policy
On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 06:28:50PM +0100, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote:
> I understand what you're saying, and indeed trying to encode
> "Build-Depends-If-Available: foo" as "Build-Depends: foo | something"
> is a bad idea from the get-go. After all, foo can have three states
On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 11:11:13AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:21:30PM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Personally, I think we should discard binaries from all sourceful
> > uploads and only accept binaries from binary-only uploads such as the
> >
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 02:21:30PM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> Personally, I think we should discard binaries from all sourceful
> uploads and only accept binaries from binary-only uploads such as the
> uploads done by the buildds.
The reason we don't do this is because of bootstrapping: some tools
Hi Sam,
Thanks for following up on this.
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 02:38:04PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> * We had a discussion of using native packages [2].
I wanted to read up on this a bit more, but your footnote is missing.
What was that meant to point to?
Thanks,
--
Home is where you ha
On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 09:11:57PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Wouter Verhelst writes:
> > On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 08:03:09PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote:
> >> Adam Borowski writes:
> >> > Idea: perhaps we could make no unrestricted (maintainer, team, or QA)
>
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 11:29:22AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Quoting Wouter Verhelst (2020-04-11 10:36:44)
> > On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 03:43:17PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > > Debian:
> > > https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/g/gtk%2B4.0/copyright-3.98
On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 10:41:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> https://trends.debian.net/ was just updated (with data until April 1st).
There is a significant bump in the number of co-maintained packages
during the buster release cycle. It is not at all clear to me what
happened there.
On Sat, Apr 04, 2020 at 08:03:09PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Adam Borowski writes:
> > Idea: perhaps we could make no unrestricted (maintainer, team, or QA) upload
> > for 10 years a RC bug on its own? That threshold could then be gradually
> > reduced to eg. 5 years, as worst offenders get f
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 03:43:17PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> Debian:
> https://tracker.debian.org/media/packages/g/gtk%2B4.0/copyright-3.98.0-1
> plus we ship the LGPL in base-files' common-licenses.
This kind of insanity is actually why I refuse to use the
machine-parseable copyright format.
[sorry for the late reply; catching up on email]
On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 04:23:15PM -0500, Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> On 2/21/20 2:00 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Even so, if we want to do so, this can be done correctly by a preinst
> > script in new libc, by way of a scrip
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 06:26:32AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Feb 19, Guillem Jover wrote:
>
> > For any pathname that has been hardcoded a symlink can be used for
> > backwards compat, nothing unlike /bin or /sbin here. This looks just
> > like a normal bug from a botched transition, nothin
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:19:35AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 23:20:11 +0100, Andreas Henriksson wrote:
> >a debhelper addon which runs after
> >dh_install, detects files in /lib, /bin and /sbin, moves them
> >into /usr and generates the needed postinst code d
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 09:45:32AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Wouter Verhelst:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 06:38:00PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> >> It would also make the package unmaintainable if the original packer
> >> loses interest, so the pac
On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 06:38:00PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> It would also make the package unmaintainable if the original packer
> loses interest, so the package would not be suitable for inclusion in
> a stable release.
Eh, it doesn't?
A CLA is "you're allowed to change this, but if you wa
On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 11:41:32PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Hey John,
>
> John Goarzen wrote:
> >On Tue, Feb 04 2020, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >
> >The thing that we have to remember is that an operating system is a
> >platform for running software. This problem is rather thorny, because:
>
On Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:07:48PM +0200, Otto Kekäläinen wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I've ended up in being both the maintainer in Debian and an upstream
> developer for a couple of packages and I have been fantasizing about
> how to optimize my workflow so that I primarily fix all bugs and do QA
> direc
On Fri, Feb 07, 2020 at 10:31:16AM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 at 09:28:24 +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Why not? This seems like the type of problem that SONAMEs are made for.
> > What am I missing?
>
> SONAMEs are set by the upstream developer
On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 07:58 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote:
> > ❦ 6 février 2020 09:50 +11, Dmitry Smirnov :
> >
> > > > and 2) continuing to use rsyslog isn't an option if the default changes.
> > >
> > > No. I just don't want defa
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 01:14:10PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> So, we're all fine? Not so much: for our 32-bit Debian arches, we will
> need to basically rebuild the world to be 2038-safe. When we had to do
> something like this in the past, to deal with the libc5->libc6
> transition, we had an
On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 02:47:45AM +, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 11:32 AM Paul Gevers wrote:
>
> > [1] Source packages that build binaries unknown to the archive currently
> > need these binaries to be uploaded by the maintainers for reviewing by
> > ftp-master in NEW. IIRC the
On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 09:55:04AM -0800, Felix Lechner wrote:
[...]
> For example, the tag
> 'debian-copyright-file-uses-obsolete-national-encoding' might become
> 'national-encoding@debian/copyright'.
>
> There are many motivations:
>
> 1. Shortens tag names.
I do not see how that is a good th
Hi,
On Sat, Nov 09, 2019 at 07:20:44PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Hi Timo,
>
> On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 07:33:10PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> > Hallo Wouter Verhelst,
> >
> > 03.11.19 18:35 Wouter Verhelst:
> > > The software from the package downlo
Hi Timo,
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 07:33:10PM +0100, Timo Weingärtner wrote:
> Hallo Wouter Verhelst,
>
> 03.11.19 18:35 Wouter Verhelst:
> > The software from the package downloads the metadata index and validates
> > the GPG signature; and if everything checks out, adds conf
On Sun, Nov 03, 2019 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Sam Hartman wrote:
> >>>>> "Wouter" == Wouter Verhelst writes:
>
> Wouter> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:45:47PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> >> http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
>
>
On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 03:45:47PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> http://www.islinuxaboutchoice.com/
https://grep.be/blog/en/computer/cluebat/Systemd__Devuan__and_Debian/
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So, in 2015 I wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At $DAYJOB, I'm maintaining a few repositories with ready-to-install
> packages for a number of distributions[1]
>
> Currently, the instructions[2] say to do the following:
> - Download and install an "eid-archive" package, which contains the GPG
> keys and gener
On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 03:19:03PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> We've now had several years of essentially declining to make a decision
> and trying to see if the project can muddle through, and while I feel
> somewhat vindicated by the fact that this didn't immediately fall apart
> and has sort of
Sorry about the lateness here, been busy...
On Tue, Oct 01, 2019 at 12:22:34PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > "Sean" == Sean Whitton writes:
>
> Sean> You might separate your detailed, narrative descriptions of
> Sean> how discussions went from what you took away from the
> Sean>
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 01:16:26AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 9/15/19 12:06 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > There's nothing that requires you to interact with a VCS repository that
> > you
> > don't care to.
>
> But I do care about using Git, and interacting with other DDs using it.
Cool.
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 12:01:24AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> It is a real life experience that I had to touch horribly maintained
> packages by unknown contributors, with Vcs-Git:
> https://github.com//, missing commits not matching the
> archive, and no response from the maintainer to the BTS
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 11:43:33PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 12, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> > Except all they need to do is return NXDOMAIN on the
> > "use-application-dns.net" domain, and Presto! they can spy on their
> > users again.
> They n
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 07:02:15PM +0200, Jeff wrote:
> The package I uploaded yesterday failed to build[1]. In the buildd, 2 of
> 1000+ tests failed. Of course, I built in a clean sbuild for sid before
> I uploaded it, and the same package built fine on the newer Ubuntu
> distros on launchpad. So
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 07:56:48PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 08:24:03 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>
> > > On 9 Sep 2019, at 15:31, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > >
> > > I for one, do trust my ISPs a lot more than I trust Cloudflare or
> > > Google, simply based on the jurisdic
On Sun, Sep 08, 2019 at 11:17:13PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 08, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>
> > I would rather see an explicit statement. I would be very surprised
> > with Debian’s usual stance regarding the users’ privacy that we would
> > not consider this as a privacy violation, but aga
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 01:11:09PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 09:46:00AM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote:
> > > Related to that I would like to be able to write something like
> > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian debian11 main
> > > deb http://security.debian.org/de
On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:47:38AM +0100, Sean Whitton wrote:
> We could try to write a tool which tries to guess and convert (e.g.) the
> dgit view with your changes into a maintainer workflow, but there are
> large obstacles to this working reliably. For example, there exist edge
> cases such th
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:34:19PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> On 6/15/19 12:28 AM, Chris Lamb wrote:
> > Adam Borowski wrote:
> >
> >> Thus, what would you guys say about a new distribution, "scratch"? It
> >> would
> >> be a kind of extra-experimental that doesn't put its b
On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 05:01:29PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Not every commit is worth testing,
So only push when you want to test. GitLab CI tests every push, not
every commit.
> especially on bigger packages. I don't
> want to cause unnecessary drain on already limited resources (crap
> ar
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 10:51:56PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Hi!
> Fedora has an awesome feature for packagers: scratch builds. It would be
> great if we could steal the idea.
>
> I find myself doing incremental uploads just to fix bugs that the previous
> upload revealed on some weird arch.
On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 12:56:53PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> Most debian systems are not installed with d-i. When you include things
> like FAI for installing sites and clusters; chroots, containers, VMs,
> etc, d-i is not used in most situations.
Your 'most' does not match mine.
I played with
On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 02:37:59PM +0900, Marc Dequènes (duck) wrote:
> On the more general topic, I believe there should be room for new tools to
> emerge and not-being-dh should never be a RC or even important bug.
My thoughts exactly.
I think at this point we can recommend dh, and require debh
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