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>> If that is the case then they have enbedded hostility into their name simply
>> becaus eit offends normal grammar roles.
>
> I don't that's it at all.
>
> The reason many people react
>
> Kicking Sugar 0.88 would indeed mean that we ship only a single version
> of Sugar - but kicking python-sugar would cripple Sugar, just as I guess
> kicking gtk2 would cripple GNOME.
Agreed. If kicking gtk2 is a goal, that would have interesting
impacts.
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py though, who run adequate)
The latter seems like an undesirable. Packages should be orphaning
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debian-devel archives under the ifupdown orphanage thread.
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>> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Josh Triplett wrote:
>> > Simon McVittie wrote:
>> >> One thing that an adopter could very usefully do w
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maintainer would be inclined to go out of his/her way to accomplish.
You can QA upload it really easily now too.
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>> this case, it is often the main internet connection and a stable name is
>> important.
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> Why? What does a stable name matter in the case you mentioned?
>
> Were you actually using ifupdown to manage the varied set of wireless
> networks? Because
ng
> to do the migration manually (which I'd argue is a low price to pay).
I do not think it wise to package every point release since roundcube
does not intend to break the configs every point release as they did
in version 1. However packaging a roundcube-1 is useful IMO (and it
would be
for reporting/fixing problems.
Problem: The Debian maintainer messed up the version numbers
and had to introduce a "1:" for his foo package. Now upstream's
package always appears to be out of date, forcing me to override
apt-get.
Not the cleanest option, but can upstream just introduce
are the RPi and Jolla embedded systems? The
weakest Raspberry Pi has almost ten times as much RAM as the vocore.
And both have discrete GPUs. I don't know, it seems like a stretch to
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Simply adding the following in the start action of the init file,
prior to starting the daemon, should do the trick:
touch "$PIDFILE"
chown www-data:www-data "$PIDFILE"
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enough.
So to have them up to date in that respect, you need to either have a
cron job or invoke the update-motd scripts on every login. Invoking
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servers.
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I do not know why I am discussing this here though, haha.
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/system/package.service /lib/systemd/system/package.service
/etc/systemd/system/package.service.d/* /lib/systemd/system/package.service
Seeing as systemd upstream is pushing the "stateless systems" idea,
and there is definitely merit to it, I think this is the best way to
tackl
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> >>> OK, so the system has syslog-ng installed. For what ever reason
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> >>> is not starting automat
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El jue, 13 de nov 2014 a las 6:53 , Russ Allbery
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Patrick Ouellette writes:
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 06:19:32PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Ow. No, that's definitely a bug. I'd love to understand what
happe
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it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760426
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What syslog
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tart check gave a false negative).
3. Maybe you should embed the check for Upstart, so that you do not
have to source all of the init functions, and if that file is ever not
available you still get the correct check.
4. There is a tiny typo in the Upstart check. It needs an extra right
parenthese at
an if you use PRCTL_SET_CHILD_REAPER (only on Linux
3.4+ I think), or do not support forking daemons.
Both options are undesirable in different ways, but systemd already
requires the prctl so any alternative would not be any worse than
systemd in that respect.
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you try it with? I thought these
types of issues were fixed in Sid :/
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but not
depend on the actual full crontab implementation?
This would allow for a more minimal cron daemon on certain setups (or
no cron daemon, plus the systemd glue that has appeared,
systemd-cron).
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Looks like this bug filed onto the version in experimental:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740047.
Seems like the maintainer might need help with it.
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transitioning to /bin/sh could just find the reverse depends of bash
and the packages affected by the lintian warning.
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favor of a directory format) :)
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ays online should be
present (in PK's configuration).
Is this how the feature has been implemented? Do you think upstream
(and you as an AppStream supporter / developer) would be enthusiastic
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ver logind implementation), just switching the
dependencies around, or using virtual packages for logind dependencies
(since apt knows what is the best decision already).
Please consider the above prospective actions, and give feedback or
results.
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On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 12:37:12PM -0700, Cameron Norman wrote:
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Josselin Mouette
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> Noel Torres wrote:
>> So we are clearly failing to follow the least surprise (for the
u
emd as PID 1.
With the above scenario (virtual packages like logind), apt would be
smart and install the least disruptive package. Do you think that would
be systemd-shim (no removal of current init) or systemd-sysv (removal
of packages)?
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good way to do
this is through random dependencies of DE's or network manager.
>
> Thus, unless the user explicitly tells the apt{-get,itude} subsystem not
> to switch to systemd (by whatever means, the details of which I personally
> am not at all interested in), a dist-upgrade should do
-supported, well-tested solution, than
> the Debuntu-specific hack to use it with an inferior init system.
Another purely functional POV is that upgrading from wheezy to jessie
should not require switching your init system (or removing NM and
GNOME and more), as it does currently.
Cheers,
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in their kcmdline will experience breakage due to systemd-shim
conflicting with systemd-sysv, however this is actually not likely at
all according to the shim maintainer).
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other two actions).
I hope that helps you understand how the graph does not depict how many
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* contain text, like
scrollbars?
Probably relevant to Michael's inquiry: can we just get a few
screenshots? It would be a lot easier to compare.
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GNOME. :-)
I would appreciate if you went into a little detail on what pain you
had with GNOME for comparison purposes.
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non-english speaking, it is one of the biggest DE's, and that makes it
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citly enable it. Although
that would cause the MTPT to be unmounted if the file is deleted
(unless the ExecStop= is removed)... Anyway, pretty cool.
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estion to the TC, now that
the situation has actually occurred, or begin a General Resolution. As
far as I understand, a GR would only need a majority since the TC did
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Cameron Norman writes:
Oh this is easy. The init script calls s-s-d and does not check the
return
code (so always exits 0). I am just going to use set -e in the init
script, only a couple tweaks are needed.
Please don'
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luding a few unresolved bugs so far), and
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NM and udisks and a lot of other packages.
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I think we could/should have space on cdimage etc. [for OpenStack
images] - how big are we talking?
He said 350-400 GB, but it is highly probably he meant to type MB.
to reimplement.
[1] http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2014/02/19/on-portability/ (towards
the end)
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El Mon, 12 de May 2014 a las 10:53 PM, Brian May
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On 13 May 2014 15:44, Cameron Norman wrote:
I found another use of su that may need to be added to your list.
rabbitmq (oddly) wraps itself up in a shell script,
/usr/sbin/rabbitmq-server, which asserts the user is root or
rabbitmq
serts the user is root or rabbitmq,
and drops down to rabbitmq if it is root (using su), then starts the
actual binary. The problem with this one is that it is upstream code
and cannot use s-s-d for obvious reasons.
If I am wrong in thinking this usage would be buggy, then carry on.
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in
these cases ?
Is it not possible to tell if the sysvinit or upstart packages were
installed manually, and give a prompt then (in addition to something
like you described) ?
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I do not believe that list is at all comprehensive. One example would
be the init script for the package "rotter".
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patch-centric and more
> human-centric.
I am sorry if this was mentioned earlier in the conversation, but are
you talking about a specific package here?
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> Sorry, but I suspect the latter.
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On May 05, Cameron Norman wrote:
Example one: someone does not need logind, but removing it would
remove
their init system.
So do not try to do it.
Constructive solution you have got there.
Example two: someone
El Sun, 4 de May 2014 a las 4:24 PM, Marco d'Itri
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packages. I know our systems have no functional use for
systemd-logind and yet lots seems to depend on it but it is less
clear what depends on which parts and so why each of the many
packages do so
appreciate that.
v210 adds a AppArmorProfile stanza.
Oh, and Ubuntu too.
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stable version of Go, so you would need Go 1.3 to compile Go 1.4 --
goc 1.1 would not compile anything but <=1.2.
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running systemd as their session init
system. I am assuming that the systemd user session stuff does not
require you to install anything systemd specific (except maybe
libsystemd-daemon) and still allows you to run ibus w/o systemd.
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package maintainer or user) profiles, and would not cause any harm to
non-confined applications. This is forgivably irrelevant, because you
are talking about confined applications.
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If you have more information, please add it to the wiki page.
If you would like to help, please choose an item and start work.
Would the inclusion of more AppArmor profiles be applicable?
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rnatively, you could work on OpenRC, or even Epoch init.
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tor agreements; allows for disagreements and difficulties
with upstream to be avoided; and finally increases portability of the
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specifically created to allow for even deeper remote fs situations
(specifically, network mounted root).
I think any change to a new network configuration should not ignore the
scenario of a network mounted /usr, as NM and connman seem to have done.
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El Fri, 28 de Mar 2014 a las 1:19 AM, Olav Vitters
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:38:40AM -0500, Kevin Toppins wrote:
On 26 March 2014 10:13, Cameron Norman
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[...]
> That is pretty much impossible, according to the developers of
the logind
> API and its single implemen
El Wed, 26 de Mar 2014 a las 9:03 PM, gustavo panizzo
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On 03/26/2014 11:49 PM, Cameron Norman wrote:
I wonder if dbus activation
could be used to accomplish this. Of course, then one would not be
able
to put (in the case of Upstart) the socket bridge, dbus bridge,
dbus, or
ot; without the complication of multiple separate
hierarchies. How do you suggest this integration with cgroups be done?
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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> On 03/25/2014 12:42 AM, Kevin Toppins wrote:
> Writing an independent, init system agnostic, logind API compatible
> daemon would be another good thing to do.
>
That is pretty much impossible, according to the developers of the logind
API
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See the documentation for the following if they are not familiar to
you:
* dependencies: Wants/WantedBy, Requires/RequiredBy (in
man::systemd.unit)
* states: ConditionFileExists, ConditionFileExecutable, Condition*
(probably in
it harder to supervise
(track the PID and collect the stdout/err) the process. Lastly, it is a
fair bit of unnecessary code on the daemon's part.
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> in a couple of debian release.
>
The former has the problem of people depending on openjpeg already and
using the 1.x API. Having a new package for the v2 API is better because
people have to explicitly use the new package+API, and they do not
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stuff. They license a lot of
their stuff under the Apache v2 license, so I do not think it is the
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Matt,
Yes, it is possible, but only the contributions of the fork would be
GPLv3 only, the original GPLv2+ code would still be just that.
Nevertheless, the final product would be GPLv3 only.
Cameron Norman
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Matt Zagrabelny
wrote:
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 8
There is a chance.
On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Kathleen Spence
wrote:
Hello,
Just wondering if there was any chance that pulseaudio could be
removed from trunk (any debain dist) and just go back to basic known
working good alsa?
Thank you!
Debian User
El Tue, 24 de Dec 2013 a las 2:03 AM, Jakub Wilk
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* Bastien ROUCARIES , 2013-12-23, 16:23:
I have just implemented lintian-privacy-breach tags [1,2]
I don't think “privacy breach” is an appropriate expression to
use here. Can we find a less judgmental and more technical term?
Per
t
seem to be available in projectb, but that it would be nice to have.
The suite_architectures table is incomplete (only listing unstable,
experimental, sarge-r0, and etch-m68k). And there also isn't a way to
determine the codenames from the suite names without looking in the
Release files.
T
ATIC, expecting T_OLD_FUNCTION or
> T_FUNCTION or T_VAR or '}' in /usr/share/php/adodb/adodb.inc.php on line 336
Please use reportbug to file a bug report for this issue so I can try
to help you with it.
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Is that a bug, or were my assumptions wrong? FWIW, I think using real
(not pseudo) mail headers is a mildly better solution, but I'm happy
either way.
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not advanced, users) and found these results for Yesterday, which I
hope is recent enough. :)
threads mentioning apt-get: 146
threads mentioning aptitude: 27
posts mentioning apt-get: 214
posts mentioning aptitude: 34
I don't think there's any doubt from th
ckage manager is (adept) synaptic, I've tried them out but ended up
going back to aptitude, and through the long process of marking
everything as automatic and then picking and choosing what I want to
install (which is actually easier on ubuntu thanks to the umbrella
packages they use).
Cameron
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Cameron Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* Package name: debtorrent
Version : 0.2.0
Upstream Author : Cameron Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Programming
On 5/31/07, Cameron Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm thinking of converting a subversion repository I use for one of my
debian packages to git (preferably with all history intact).
[snip]
No replies, so I brute-forced it. It's not pretty, but it works. I
posted it on
dify my subversion repository so
upstream is a single branch, with the different versions being tags
instead (and why doesn't svn-buildpackage use this form)?
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I am still unable to contact Thorsten Sauter. Has anyone heard anything
from him in the last 4 months? Anything at all?
Cameron Dale said the following on 11/04/2006 4:53 PM:
> I've been trying to reach Thorsten Sauter for some time now. I've sent
> him a couple emails over th
e is the correct path and
plan to file the bugs in the next few days.
I just uploaded a new version that fixes this problem.
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(although not any Mozilla ones) and ship a
quite different default configuration for many more (including
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> > > false inf
rename my devices to sensible names based
on what's on the other end (e.g. eth and wifi on my laptop).
Unfortunately, giving interfaces odd names confuses some software -
off the top of my head, iptraf is one of these.
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