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On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:29:56AM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:27:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
CFLAGS is an old, long-standing make thing. CPPFLAGS is newer and I
believe was introduced by Autoconf
I don't know the history of CPPFLAGS. It's possible
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:27:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
CFLAGS is an old, long-standing make thing. CPPFLAGS is newer and I
believe was introduced by Autoconf
I don't know the history of CPPFLAGS. It's possible it was introduced by
Autoconf. However, it is now embedded into the implicit
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 05:24:28PM +0100, Philip Ashmore wrote:
Anyway, I guess what I would look for, to share the bug squashing
atmosphere with others, is a YouTube video summarising the event,
maybe magazine style - it doesn't have to show someone actually
squashing a bug, but it might help
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 07:37:18PM +0100, Philip Ashmore wrote:
Could we perhaps entice you, Philip, to make a change to Debian instead
of suggesting things for us to do?
Bug#678854: Acknowledgement (icewm won't start)
That's a good first step: you've found a problem in Debian. Now you should
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 07:25:51PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
Bug squashing parties are *social* events where bugs happen to get
fixed.
http://wiki.debian.org/BSPMarathonWheezy should be useful for anyone
who thinks we're making people travel too long for these things. Host
a BSP! Even if it's
As far as I understand, it is entirely true that Google's Hangout,
or Skype, are easy to use. Of the free variants, I mainly have
experience with Mumble, which usually works, but requires tweaking
and configuration to work well.
The other aspect, however, is that Hangout and Skype are not free.
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:58:12PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
While some people understandably do not like to use proprietary online
services managed by third parties, there is no consensus that using them
for Debian purposes is inappropriate.
I believe there is a consensus that having the
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
I wonder if we have a way to achieve that.
I think this is best handled with autopkgtest. See recent efforts to
set up Debian infrastructure to use it.
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 09:25:51PM +0100, Jamie White wrote:
Just a quick question, which malloc, is there anyway that this
function (used in C) could allocate memory into already allocated
memory, such as the stack - or code space!
The debian-devel mailing list is meant for development _of_
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Description : find duplicate
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 05:08:06PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Ben Hutchings
Not all duplicate file finder programs are exact copies of each other,
so dedupdedup embeds a simple AI system to compare programs, based on
package descriptions, --help output, and manual pages, to
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 05:54:50PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote:
But, since freedom of choice IS important, and not everyone has seen the
Light yet, I suppose we can maintain all three. But I strongly suggest
the interchange format to be lisp code.
I object to data file formats that are expressed
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 11:55:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
It's ridiculous that we would even consider endorsing a blatant
reinvention of the wheel like WAP BXML rather than simply using ASN.1 as
our standard binary encoding. Particularly since, as a bonus, that would
allow us to store our
On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 12:23:35PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes:
I don't like ASN.1 either, but your point about the LDAP server is a
good one. I've changed the code to produce ASN.1 records for anything it
finds, and will be opening a separate discussion
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On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 12:53:37AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
disclaimerI know almost nothing about systemd/disclaimer
I'd like people to think twice before opt-in for systemd. I just
taked with a friend working for redhat, and he told me how much
he hates it. He told me that if *anything*
There is a lot of feelings and temper involved in the current discussion
of init implementations in Debian. I'd like to try to de-escalate by
summarizing things in as objective and non-confrontational manner as I can.
* sysvinit is mostly working for everyone, but it has problems, in part
Ergh, I got sysvinit and systemd mixed in some places. We should
ban from Debian more than one program starting with the same letter.
Thanks, Dave, for pointing this out to me quickly.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:14:53AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
* The two main event based contenders
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 10:12:43AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 07:54:43AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
Er, let's not call upstream lazy just because they don't want to do
work that has no interest for themselves.
I don't see what else I should call them.
I see
On Tue, Mar 06, 2012 at 08:07:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
So far, I haven't seen any features in systemd that outweigh those. And
the fact that upstream is lazy and doesn't want to do this portability
thing shouldn't mean we should throw out our other ports.
Er, let's not call upstream
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 05:11:58AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
+ * The new kernel version includes security restrictions on links, which
+are enabled by default. These are specified in
+Documentation/sysctl/fs.txt in the linux-doc-3.2 and linux-source-3.2
+packages.
It'd be
In the humorless jerks complaining department:
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 01:23:15AM +, Jonathan McCrohan wrote:
* Package name: nyancat
* URL : http://miku.acm.uiuc.edu/
Nyancat is an animated, color, ANSI-text telnet server that renders a loop of
the classic Nyan Cat
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 01:02:14PM +0400, Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote:
I have the question about user removal in package's postrm script.
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=621833 and its merged
bugs are a discussion about changing or setting the policy on this.
The consensus is
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On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 10:51:23AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
On Fri, 2012-02-24 at 09:16 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le vendredi 24 février 2012 à 08:47 +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit :
What I try to say is If there can only be one, then this should not
be systemd. So if Debian
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 10:29:37AM +0100, Thomas Hood wrote:
I know the System V init system fairly well but I am new to both
Upstart and systemd. Obviously the two are similar insofar as they are
both able to supersede SysV init.
I'm mostly a newbie with both, too. However, apart from
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On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 01:29:08PM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
The computer is not a person.
There there, havelock.liw.fi, don't listen to the *mean* man who
says you're not a person. You are too a person! Tell you what,
it's a magical Internet, ol' buddy... Let's go exploring!
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On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 10:49:23PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote:
But it's worse than this: even if dpkg decompresses before comparing,
debsums won't (and mustn't, for backward compatibility). So it's
potentially necessary to fix up the md5sums file for a package
installed for multiple
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On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 09:39:46AM +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
Hi,
some time ago I started to collect hints for upstream developers on a wiki
page:
http://wiki.debian.org/Java/UpstreamHints
I am Lars Wirzenius and I approve of this page.
However, http://wiki.debian.org/UpstreamGuide
On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 05:09:42PM +, PICCA Frédéric-Emmanuel wrote:
We had a conversation (here I think) last year about whether programs
should be trying to automatically remove users in their postrm. IIRC
the conclusion of that discussion the answer was that they should not,
at
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:58:11AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
judging by the current status list DEPs, the problem is more stalling than
accepting them too early. I admit that as DEP admins, we have not done a good
job at pinging DEP drivers. Because of the current confusion of roles on DEP
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 05:36:00PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
“Dictator” is probably a bad term. See this as a chairman. Someone who
can judge when consensus has been reached, and mark a DEP as accepted.
This would avoid the countless and boring nitpicks by people who still
want to discuss
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 09:38:29AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Lars Wirzenius l...@liw.fi writes:
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 05:36:00PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
“Dictator” is probably a bad term. See this as a chairman. Someone who
can judge when consensus has been reached, and mark
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On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:58:13PM -0800, Kamal Mostafa wrote:
* Package name: duff
* URL : http://duff.sourceforge.net/
A quick speed comparison:
real user system max RSS elapsed cmd
(s) (s) (s)(KiB) (s)
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:30:20AM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Lars Wirzenius, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 09:12:58 +, a écrit :
real user system max RSS elapsed cmd
(s) (s) (s)(KiB) (s)
3.2 2.4
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 02:05:10PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
Roland Mas, le Tue 17 Jan 2012 13:41:23 +0100, a écrit :
Samuel Thibault, 2012-01-17 12:03:41 +0100 :
[...]
I'm not sure to understand what you mean exactly. If you have even
just a hundred files of the same size,
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On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:43:27PM -0500, Al wrote:
This might seem trivial but it helped enough people I work with that I thought
I should contribute the code. Instead of running ssh-copy-id -i identityName
IPADDR , all you had to do was pushkey IPADDR. The difference between my
package and
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 05:49:12PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
It also either (a) prevents upstream from ever changing that default or
(b) silently breaks packages for the user. If option foo is set to bar
in the upstream configuration and then upstream changes it to baz, the
package
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On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:41:07AM +, Roger Leigh wrote:
The suggestion that git clean be a solution appears to have caused
some level of outrage. However, at least for '3.0 (git)', all the
sources are known to git, and 'git clean' is a reliable and simple
solution to the problem. The
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On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:13:29PM +0100, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote:
Simon McVittie s...@debian.org writes:
life's too short to spend time booting in single-user mode and
resizing LVs.
That's probably why we now have online resizing of LVs and filesystems
resize2fs, at least, only
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 08:30:22PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
But then I don't see how you could avoid circular build-dependencies
with compilers written in their own language. fpc/fp-compiler does the
same.
You can avoid it by having a bootstrap compiler written in another
suitable language,
On Wed, Dec 07, 2011 at 08:15:42PM +0800, Daniel Hartwig wrote:
Would like to know the locked status before trying su so that the
program can either fall back to sudo or give an error message more
informative than just incorrect password.
What is the security implication of letting anyone see
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On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 09:44:15AM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
Yes I agree. But wich $TMPDIR should we use ? /var/tmp does not fit
because it is not cleaned at boot. And the problem is the default have
changed. I do not excuse sloppy programmer. but we need something like
a standard tmp
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 06:30:27PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Agreed. Anyway, I'd be happy to have, by policy, some hard limits
We can discuss of a tolerable size, like 100M? Anyway, anything
bigger than 512 MB is obviously abusing /tmp, IMHO. But if we're
to have /tmp using tmpfs by
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On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:44:25PM +0200, Ludovic Seegmuller wrote:
Description : dupmerge2 finds and hardlinks identical files
We've got a bunch of such tools in Debian already, and ITPs for more.
How does this one compare to, say, pmatch, hardlink, or fdupes?
--
Freedom-based
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 01:57:54PM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
I wonder, is there a kind of reference of the common command
line interface conventions that the CLI's of the software
included in Debian should adhere to?
We already have every popular style of command line
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On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 06:47:52PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
I am looking for a set of perl modules which can handle being fed mail
and managing a subscription list in response to that mail while also
allowing for subscriptions/unsubscriptions from an external interface.
Such a thing may not
On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 12:55:26PM +0300, Andrew O. Shadura wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:46:50 +0600
Andrey Rahmatullin w...@wrar.name wrote:
Until that happens, please use whatever URL you like. I use
http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/ myself.
Note that some people think
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