"Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
I hate "inline" mail forwarding. It loses information, breaks programs (inline-quoted mails typically get "From:" replaced by ">From:" at some step), and makes things like signature checking needlessly complicated. debbugs forwards some emails as inline attachments, notably the "bug has been marke

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Unless there's a strong preference to keep things the way they are, I'd > like to prepare a patch to change that -- so speak up now. Many e-mail clients require the user to explicitly open an attached e-mail message in order to v

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > I hate "inline" mail forwarding. It loses information, breaks programs > (inline-quoted mails typically get "From:" replaced by ">From:" at > some step), and makes things like signature checking needlessly > complicated. > > debbu

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:59:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 01:46:47PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > > Unless there's a strong preference to keep things the way they are, I'd > > like to prepare a patch to change that -- so speak up now. > > Many e-mail clients require

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Colin Watson wrote: > Yes, and also it causes nasty problems with character sets. There's at > least one bug filed, and I've been meaning to change it for a while now. True. Color me embarrassed for not checking the bug list before posting. (#131881, for reference) -- Matthias Urlichs |

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Mark Brown wrote: > Many e-mail clients require the user to explicitly open an attached e-mail > message in order to view the contents. IMHO, if your client requires more keystrokes / mouseclicks to open an attachment at the top than to scroll down to some random place near the end of a messa

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:24:25PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Usually this is controlled by the Content-Disposition: header. > "Content-Disposition: inline" should be displayed inline; > "Content-Disposition: attachment" will often be hidden until explicitly > opened. Assuming the mail client p

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:57:09PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Colin Watson wrote: > > Yes, and also it causes nasty problems with character sets. There's > > at least one bug filed, and I've been meaning to change it for a > > while now. > > True. > > Color me embarrassed for not checki

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 03:58:44PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > attachment at the top than to scroll down to some random place near the > end of a message (depending on how large the close message actually is), > you should switch clients. ;-) Not everyone will be able to do that, of course.

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 14 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > so maybe it was actually only filed in my > brain (which has no web interface) ... We need a bug system for developer's brains.

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-14 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Adam Heath may or may not have written... > On Wed, 14 May 2003, Colin Watson wrote: >> so maybe it was actually only filed in my brain (which has no web >> interface) ... > We need a bug system for developer's brains. Agreed... $ mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s "Misplacement of apost

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Wednesday 14 May 2003 16:05, Mark Brown wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 02:24:25PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Usually this is controlled by the Content-Disposition: header. > > "Content-Disposition: inline" should be displayed inline; > > "Content-Disposition: attachment" will often be hidd

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread Josip Rodin
On Wed, May 14, 2003 at 11:27:07PM +0100, Darren Salt wrote: > >> so maybe it was actually only filed in my brain (which has no web > >> interface) ... > > > We need a bug system for developer's brains. > > Agreed... > > $ mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s "Misplacement of apostrophes" > Package: do

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread David Z Maze
"Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Q: is content-disposition handled properly, especially for > messag/rfc822 type attachments? (Or if not, are message attachments > displayed inline by default?) Gnus: yes (since 5.8.0, the first MIME-aware version) > (Y

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:47:34AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote: > "Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > (Yes, I've stopped caring about users of a certain other widespread MUA, as > > you've probably guessed anyway when you notice me using PGP/MIME to sign > > messa

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 10:47:34AM -0400, David Z Maze wrote: > "Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Q: is content-disposition handled properly, especially for > > messag/rfc822 type attachments? (Or if not, are message attachments > > displayed inline by defaul

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread John Hasler
Steve Langasek writes: > I dunno, I've always found use of Outlook to be a fairly good predictor > of bug-reporting cluelessness (use of reportbug being another :). What's your objection to reportbug? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 01:06:21PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Steve Langasek writes: > > I dunno, I've always found use of Outlook to be a fairly good predictor > > of bug-reporting cluelessness (use of reportbug being another :). > > What's your objection to reportbug? None whatsoever -- I use

Re: "Bug marked as done" messages to-be-MIMEified?

2003-05-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Assuming the mail client pays attention, of course. > > I guess using MIME structures like that more would make more people complain > to devlopers of MUAs that don't handle this properly... > > I don't know many MUAs, but perh