Ana Guerrero dijo [Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:04:37PM +0200]:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:23:31PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only verifiable by someone
> > who's lived in that state or otherwise seen drivers' licenses from that
> > state. I really di
David Moreno dijo [Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 09:27:28AM -0400]:
> >> Driving licenses are expressly not accepted as official ID documents
> >> in Mexico, even if they are government-issued.
> >
> > That just begs the question: official to whom, and why?
>
> Official for the government for procedures su
Philipp Kern (26/06/2009):
> On 2009-06-25, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> > European ID cards are more like a passport, whereas a US ID is a
> > driver license. (In addition to that national driver licenses of
> > european countries are much less usefull for this purpose unless
> > they are the new e
On 2009-06-25, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> In article <20090625100437.ga10...@ana.debian.net> you wrote:
>> FWIW, you will see plenty of national ID from all the european countries
>> in DebConf. I do expect most of germans, frenchs, italian, belgian, etc just
>> travelling with their cards. They do
In article <20090625100437.ga10...@ana.debian.net> you wrote:
> FWIW, you will see plenty of national ID from all the european countries
> in DebConf. I do expect most of germans, frenchs, italian, belgian, etc just
> travelling with their cards. They do not need their passports to come.
European
On Jun 24, 2009, at 5:43 PM, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 16:58:52 Gunnar Wolf wrote:
Driving licenses are expressly not accepted as official ID documents
in Mexico, even if they are government-issued.
That just begs the question: official to whom, and why?
Official for
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:04:37PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
> FWIW, you will see plenty of national ID from all the european countries
> in DebConf. I do expect most of germans, frenchs, italian, belgian, etc just
> travelling with their cards. They do not need their passports to come.
I do int
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 09:30:52AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> Would subkeys help in this scenario? (hint hint, some good docs about
> real-world subkey usage are needed).
Subkeys cannot (to my knowledge) be used for certification (i.e. key signing).
At least not with stock gnupg.
Kind regards,
Phi
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:23:31PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only verifiable by someone
> who's lived in that state or otherwise seen drivers' licenses from that
> state. I really dislike seeing people use them at key signings and
> would rather see
On Wednesday 24 June 2009 16:58:52 Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Driving licenses are expressly not accepted as official ID documents
> in Mexico, even if they are government-issued.
That just begs the question: official to whom, and why? Ultimately, the
office clerk, the bar tender, or the key signer wi
Russ Allbery dijo [Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:23:31PM -0700]:
> > I will always challenge the "government-issued ID" due to the vastly
> > differing standards across the globe, but "travel document" is
> > actually a term that someone uttered earlier, which raises the bar a
> > lot higher.
>
> For ex
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 07:55:57PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only verifiable by
> > someone who's lived in that state or otherwise seen drivers'
> > licenses from that state.
>
> Nah; there's a guide pub
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 08:52:20PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> Additional metadata, e.g. number and expiration date would
> be helpful.
Actually that'd be illegal in Germany -- ID numbers of identification
documents may not be stored in databases, with exactly two exceptions:
- the issuing
In article <20090624003554.gf9...@kunpuu.plessy.org> you wrote:
> that would be very welcome. This whole discussion confuses me and I do not
> understand if Debian as a project accepts signatures that are not based on a
> passport or an ID card. For instance, I have used drivers licenses or social
In article <20090624025557.gb9...@rzlab.ucr.edu> you wrote:
> I imagine that we can arrange to have a copy of that or a similar book
> around for people to compare.
And a UV lamp (at least one for money checking, but a special one for
documents is even better, they have different wavelength. Eurp
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote:
> For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only verifiable by
> someone who's lived in that state or otherwise seen drivers'
> licenses from that state.
Nah; there's a guide published[1] which has all of them. [If you're a
bar tender or a notary, you h
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Daniel Kahn
Gillmor wrote:
> I think that misses a critical point; i want to use my OpenPGP key for a
> variety of purposes both in and out of debian. I consider it a baseline
> tool for managing my digital identity. While i'm happy to obey
> debian-specific guid
Charles Plessy writes:
> that would be very welcome. This whole discussion confuses me and I do
> not understand if Debian as a project accepts signatures that are not
> based on a passport or an ID card. For instance, I have used drivers
> licenses or social security cards as well, is that accep
martin f krafft writes:
> I will always challenge the "government-issued ID" due to the vastly
> differing standards across the globe, but "travel document" is
> actually a term that someone uttered earlier, which raises the bar a
> lot higher.
For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only
Le Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 08:52:20PM +0200, martin f krafft a écrit :
>
> On the other hand, just some clear guidelines that participants HAVE
> TO abide by, would help, e.g. a commitment to a signing policy for
> all keys that are to appear in a Debian keyring.
Hi Martin,
that would be very welco
On 06/23/2009 02:52 PM, martin f krafft wrote:
> Additional metadata, e.g. number and expiration date would
> be helpful.
This would certainly be useful from the smiting perspective, but might
raise privacy concerns if people don't want their passport number (or
whatever) bound to their OpenPGP ke
also sprach Daniel Kahn Gillmor [2009.06.23.1949
+0200]:
> --> govt-iss...@wot.debian.org might be a distinguished name
> identifying the apparent issuer of any validated identification,
> such as /C=US/ST=NY/ for a NY State (USA) driver's license and
> /C=US/ for an American passport. If you che
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