Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-08-07 Thread Andrea Glorioso
nvy == Nikita V Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: nvy The thing I really don't like in debian-cd is the requirement nvy to have a local mirror. I prefer to use apt-get (+apt-proxy) nvy to fetch packages while building CD. I have a (currently nvy ugly) script to do so; if

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Christoph Berg wrote: The problem that one doesn't want things like .bash_completion read there is easily solved by # check whether we run interactively [ $PS1 ] || return (Something like that exists in Debian's /etc/skel/.bash_profile.) Uh, no. You are thinking of

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-28 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions [Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 11:10:40PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]] # check whether we run interactively [ $PS1 ] || return (Something like that exists in Debian's /etc/skel/.bash_profile.) Uh

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-27 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another thing is replacing #!/bin/sh by #!/bin/bash --login in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession (and other dm's Xsession files). This is the only way I know to make login shell startup files evaluated during X logins. This issue is known for ages,

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-27 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions [Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sun, Jul 27, 2003 at 08:30:33AM +0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]] if [ -r $HOME/.profile ] ; then . $HOME/.profile fi Sterictly saying, this is broken. /etc/profile, ~/.profile

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-27 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:58:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: - Preconfigure the packages we install Using two different approaches: (1) Load answers into the debconf database before the packages are installed using some home-make scripts, and (2) rewrite/replace

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
It's really good news that someone is writing on this. Since Debian is somewhat hard to install and configure for unexperienced user, but otherwise Debian is The Best :), I guess many people are doing custom Debain installation tools. - Preconfigure the packages we install Using two

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Tore Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): well), as I've seen far too many packages which ask Debconf questions way out of proportion, carelessly ignore policy 11.7.3 (cf. the manage with Debconf madness thread), etc. So even though it is possible to I hope you didn't forgot to file bugs

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Joey Hess
Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: E.g. in a distribution (better to say - custom installation CD) I maintain here I expect users to use kppp to connect to their ISPs. To make this work by default, I have to comment out whole contents of /etc/ppp/options during the last stage of the installation. I

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another thing is replacing #!/bin/sh by #!/bin/bash --login in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession (and other dm's Xsession files). This is the only way I know to make login shell startup files evaluated during X logins. This issue is known for ages, but

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 05:51:35PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: cat EOF /etc/X11/Xsession.d/60local_userenvironment if [ -r /etc/profile ] ;then . /etc/profile fi if [ -r $HOME/.profile ] ; then . $HOME/.profile fi EOF This'll work for all display-managers that use

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Andreas Metzler
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Introducing an ~/.environment which would be evaluated by pam_env would really be nice. Isn't /etc/environment read too? Because that is what base-config modifies IIRC. Yes or no ;-) Currently pam_env does read /etc/environment

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 09:24:55PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [somebody broke attributions here] Introducing an ~/.environment which would be evaluated by pam_env would really be nice. Isn't /etc/environment read too? Because that

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-26 Thread Bob Proulx
Andreas Metzler wrote: Nikita V. Youshchenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Another thing is replacing #!/bin/sh by #!/bin/bash --login in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsession (and other dm's Xsession files). This is the only way I know to make login shell startup files evaluated during X logins. This

[custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
As discussed during debcamp in Oslo, all the groups/projects making debian based custom distributions should join together to find common solutions to the common problems. This is a start, with a few of the issues that Skolelinux had and solved. - Automatic installation Using the new

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Tore Anderson
* Petter Reinholdtsen - Preconfigure the packages we install Using two different approaches: (1) Load answers into the debconf database before the packages are installed using some home-make scripts, and (2) rewrite/replace configuration files using cfengine at

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:28:27 +0200 Tore Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Petter Reinholdtsen - Preconfigure the packages we install I believe the best option would be to extend all the packages we use to make it possible to configure everything we need using

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Tore Anderson] God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by various Debian packages already, IMNSHO. There is no reason for you to get religious over this question. The nice thing about debconf is that there is no _need_ to present all options as questions. One can like

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Pierre Machard
Hi On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:58:31PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: [...] - Configure default language for all users Using a custom script to rewrite config files to modify the default language/locale. Why not having multiple languages per user? I mean for example: 1) French

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Tore Anderson
* Tore Anderson God, No! There's far too many Debconf questions being asked by various Debian packages already, IMNSHO. * Petter Reinholdtsen There is no reason for you to get religious over this question. The nice thing about debconf is that there is no _need_ to present all

Re: [custom] Some issues for custom debian distributions

2003-07-25 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: - Installing the list of package we want Using meta-packages (ie packages consisting only of dependencies) to install the packages we want. Used hooks in base-config to get them installed during first time installation. Not too happy about