Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-09-07 Thread Ian Jackson
to correct: Manterola writes (Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source): On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ stuff ] No. .c files are still source code. This is not correct. `Source code' means (in the words of the GPL

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-09-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2008-09-07 kello 19:29 +0100, Ian Jackson kirjoitti: I would say that _at the time when these projects were first shipped_ in this state, it _was_ a clear violation (both of our principles and of the GPL) to do so. As far as I understand, when most of those projects first shipped, the C

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 31 août 2008 à 04:17 +0300, Sami Liedes a écrit : I went through some of these and checked them by hand, and generally couldn't find the glade project anywhere in the source tarball (it might be in the diff, I didn't check for that - would that BTW be OK, to have source code in

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 2008-08-30 at 23:19 -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only questionable case I found by this sampling is dia, where the file is generated by Glade and then hand-coded to make GNOME optional and add the

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Sami Liedes
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 09:12:34AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: I’m pretty sure many of the list are in similar cases. Now loading the UI directly into the application is the standard, but not so long ago people generated template code with glade and then edited it by hand. The .glade file

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 15:08 +0300, Sami Liedes wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 09:12:34AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: I’m pretty sure many of the list are in similar cases. Now loading the UI directly into the application is the standard, but not so long ago people generated template code

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 15:27 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 31 août 2008 à 14:13 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : Sorry, that is just tosh. If you want to load the glade file via Glade, you keep the XML, depend on libglade and call libglade at runtime. You don’t need libglade

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Sami Liedes
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 02:13:21PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: Of course it does! Once the functionality is dropped, there is no way to continue working on the project without editing the C files. Developers cannot continue using the old version of glade (it doesn't support some of the stuff

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 31 août 2008 à 14:13 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : Sorry, that is just tosh. If you want to load the glade file via Glade, you keep the XML, depend on libglade and call libglade at runtime. You don’t need libglade anymore, GTK+ has integrated the functionality since 2.12. --

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-31 Thread Changwoo Ryu
2008-08-31 (일), 14:56 +0100, Neil Williams: On Sun, 2008-08-31 at 15:27 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le dimanche 31 août 2008 à 14:13 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : Sorry, that is just tosh. If you want to load the glade file via Glade, you keep the XML, depend on libglade and call

25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-30 Thread Sami Liedes
[Note that I'm not subscribed to either d-d or d-legal so if you want to ask me something, the quickest way is to Cc: me] Hi, I grepped the source tarballs in Lenny (testing) main section for the note DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - it is generated by Glade. which indicates the file is generated using

Re: 25+2 packages with (Glade) generated C source files without the source

2008-08-30 Thread Margarita Manterola
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Sami Liedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I grepped the source tarballs in Lenny (testing) main section for the note DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE - it is generated by Glade. which indicates the file is generated using the Glade UI editor. Then I checked if these packages