Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-18 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Adeodato Simó [Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:25:10 +0100]: > * Raphael Geissert [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:32:51 -0600]: > > > Removing GNOME from testing because something depends on libfrufru1 isn't > > > a win for testing's usability. > > It would only last until it is able to migrate without breaking anyt

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Raphael Geissert [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:32:51 -0600]: > > Removing GNOME from testing because something depends on libfrufru1 isn't > > a win for testing's usability. > It would only last until it is able to migrate without breaking anything. I > think this is just a matter of deciding which way

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-17 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Richard Atterer [Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:34:17 +0100]: > At the very least, there should be an auto-generated web page listing > packages in testing that are currently unreleasable! http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/03/msg00836.html -- - Are you sure we're good? - Always. -- Rory

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17:28PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Wouldn't it be better to remove the packages from testing? this way if >> the library and other packages are ready to go they could easily migrate >> without any special hack, if my understanding of the si

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Adeodato Simó wrote: > As said above, failures to build against the new library are RC from > day 0, and the intention is not to do transitions while those are > open, other constraints permitting. Cool. > As for packages that are rebuilt in unstable but not migrated, I > do

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:17:28PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing > >> testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable th

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Raphael Geissert
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing >> testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old >> behavoir late in release would probably be good.] > > In pract

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Richard Atterer
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing > testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old > behavoir late in release would probably be good.] Adeodato's proposal makes a lot of sense,

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Steve Langasek [Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:55:50 -0700]: Hello, Steve. > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you > > don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with > > packages in te

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:48:22AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > [I'm personally slightly concerned about relaxing britney allowing > testing to get into unreleasable states; a flag to re-enable the old > behavoir late in release would probably be good.] In practice, the release team has to do th

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since > > if you don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end > > up with packages in testing that do not belong

Re: A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 04:44:08PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > Now, this has its own set of problems and caveats as well, since if you > don’t pay attention and take care of later cleanup, you end up with > packages in testing that do not belong to any source in testing, which > is bad. Will the

A hack to alleviate transitions in Britney; now what?

2009-03-15 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hello, this mail is to talk a bit about the current situation regarding transitions in unstable. In my opinion, it is unfortunate that the Release Team has had to insist on semi-serializing them, because that’s not the kind of development you want to have in unstable right after a release. Execut