Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christian Perrier] > Peter Samuelson mentioned passwd being Essential because it depends > on passwd. This is actually right. However this dependency is just > the consequence of bash needing the add-shell and remove-shell > utilities...so, in the future, bash shouldn't depend on passwd > anymore

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Christian Perrier
Short summary of answers Our plan seems correct. Some (Peter Samuelson, Steve Langasek) suggest it is a bit overflated and synced uploads of fixed packages should be enough. However, Frans mentioned autobuilders which will not guarantee that both packages will reach unstable at the same dinst

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
> > A simpler solution could be merging 3) and 5) in a single upload. Then > > the "Depends" in 1) would not be needed. > > Yeah, that's one way to ensure the uploads are coordinated. :) BUT one should have the dependencies (and eventually build dependencies) in there ANYWAY. People often do par

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Frans Pop] > > shadow 1:4.0.12-6 where passwd Depends: debianutils (>= 2.15) > > debianutils 2.15 Conflicts and Replaces: passwd (<< 1:4.0.12-6) > > Hmm. That will cover i386 I guess. What about other arches that are > autobuilt? (Assuming of course that both maintainers upload for i386.)

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 02 October 2005 00:09, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Just coordinate two uploads to happen in the same dinstall cycle: > > shadow 1:4.0.12-6 where passwd Depends: debianutils (>= 2.15) > debianutils 2.15 Conflicts and Replaces: passwd (<< 1:4.0.12-6) Hmm. That will cover i386 I guess. Wha

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Oct 01, 2005 at 03:05:30PM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > The plan we draw is the following: > 1) shadow package maintainers upload passwd which >"Depends: debianutils (<= 2.14.3)" >this version *still* includes the utilities > The purpose of 1) is to avoid the removal of p

Re: Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Christian Perrier] > The goal is having a system which always has the two utilities...and > of course avoid the removal of passwd (debianutils is Essential while > passwd isn't). passwd effectively is Essential because bash depends on it. So I'm pretty sure you don't have to worry about it bein

Advices needed for moving {add|remove}-shell from passwd to debianutils

2005-10-01 Thread Christian Perrier
The bugs #208514, #268656, #269573, #29317 all finally suggest moving add-shell and remove-shell out of the passwd package. These utilities are use to "register" shells in /etc/shells and they obviously do no belong to the passwd package. Having them in passwd enforces shells to depend on it jus