Mark W. Eichin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ps. Of course the behaviour in paragraph 2 has nothing to do with unix
either; unix terminal handling is far too primitive for that. Long
Live Multics :-)
Of course, nowadays the interact command under expect can easily
handle this kind of thing...
--
I heard that the original DEC vt100? terminals had delete there and so they
Nope. The VT100 *actually* had both keys there:
+--++--++--+
|~`||BS||BK|
+--++--++--+
+---++--+
| ||DL|
| |+--+
+--+ |+--+
| RET ||\||
+--++--+
where RET was labeled
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Will Lowe) wrote on 08.12.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote:
BTW I'd be interested to hear any justification of why --- == DEL
Well, from a sheer visual standpoint, seeing an arrow pointing to the
left, like on the BS key (--), makes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander E. Apke) wrote on 08.12.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I think there is another reason for choosing --- == BS, for
internationalization. I believe it requires --- == BS, though I am not
entirely sure. This may be the reason for the push for --- == BS, even
I agree, but if feel the opposite --- == BS should be default
because most linux users come from the dos world, and the keys on a linux
terminal/xterm should act the same as in dos. Emacs users know more about
unix and therfore should know how to change stty erase
Um, how does a normal
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote:
BTW I'd be interested to hear any justification of why --- == DEL
Well, from a sheer visual standpoint, seeing an arrow pointing to the
left, like on the BS key (--), makes one think that pushing that
button's going to move the cursor that way, just
Well, from a sheer visual standpoint, seeing an arrow pointing to the
left, like on the BS key (--), makes one think that pushing that
button's going to move the cursor that way, just like the other arrow
keys. I've NEVER understood the funky behavior of the BS key on *nix.
I think we
On Mon, Dec 08, 1997 at 07:38:00PM -0500, Will Lowe wrote:
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote:
BTW I'd be interested to hear any justification of why --- == DEL
Well, from a sheer visual standpoint, seeing an arrow pointing to the
left, like on the BS key (--), makes one think
On Sun Dec 7 21:56:55 1997 +
(Sekmadienis, 1997 m. gruodio 7 d. 23:56:55 +0200),
Philip Hands wrote:
Sorry, but don't we keep on agreeing that the --- key generating DEL is the
right thing to do ?
No, I don't think so.
I could have sworn that I've been in several
On Mon 08 Dec 1997, Remco Blaakmeer wrote:
I just want to be able to use both the 'Backspace' key and the 'Delete'
key on any VC, xterm or rxvt and I want them to do just what I expect them
to do, which is the same as what they do in MS-DOS.
Now, if I am seeing it totally wrong, then
Here are a few related pros and cons.
--- == BS, but we must decide on one or the other as the installation
default.
--- == BS sounds right. IMHO this is just silly.
--- == DEL is different from DOS. This to is just silly
--- == DEL gives us an extra usable key on the main
On Mon, Dec 8 1997 10:58 GMT Philip Hands writes:
--- == DEL is standard in Linux-land at the moment (very strong argument
for keeping it that way IMHO)
This comes from the fact, that the Linux VC is emulating a VT102.
David
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes:
Okay. I'm building a new unstable version of rxvt with backspace set
to ^H. From this point on, Debian's rxvt policy will be to use ^H as
backspace by default.
Couldn't you force it to ^? instead? That would be far
On Sun Dec 7 09:15:28 1997 +
(Sekmadienis, 1997 m. gruodio 7 d. 11:15:28 +0200),
Mark Baker wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes:
Okay. I'm building a new unstable version of rxvt with backspace set
to ^H. From this point on,
On Sun Dec 7 09:15:28 1997 +
(Sekmadienis, 1997 m. gruodio 7 d. 11:15:28 +0200),
Mark Baker wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian Mays) writes:
Okay. I'm building a new unstable version of rxvt with backspace set
to ^H. From this
On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Philip Hands wrote:
Sorry, but don't we keep on agreeing that the --- key generating DEL is the
right thing to do ?
No, we don't.
I could have sworn that I've been in several discussions that resulted in
that
conclusion, with the caveat that people should be able to
Brian Mays wrote:
This is the rxvt maintainer here. Rxvt has many optional
compile-time features, one of which is the behavior of the
backspace key. Normally, I avoid modifying as many of the
upstream settings as possible, unless someone gives me a
valid reason to
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