Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-18 Thread Daniel Stender
use most of my packages myself, and I don't think it was a > mistake to package them. The reason to package it was that I think they > are important to the community, and I feel competent enough to support > them. > > Cheers > > Ole It could be argued that Bitkeeper is only

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-12 Thread Daniel Stender
On 12.05.2016 03:07, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2016-05-11 at 13:55 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Daniel Stender writes: >>> >>> Distributed source control management/revision control system. Known as >>> being used for the Linux kernel development before Git was created. The >>> now have put

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2016-05-11 at 13:55 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Stender writes: > > > > > Distributed source control management/revision control system. Known as > > being used for the Linux kernel development before Git was created.  The > > now have put the code under the Apache-2.0 license. M

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Ole Streicher
Jakub Wilk writes: > I strongly recommend against packaging software you don't personally > use. This never goes well. (I say this as someone who did this mistake > in the past, multiple times.) I don't use most of my packages myself, and I don't think it was a mistake to package them. The reason

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Jakub Wilk
do no harm to have it as a Debian package. This sounds as if you're not a Bitkeeper user yourself. I strongly recommend against packaging software you don't personally use. This never goes well. (I say this as someone who did this mistake in the past, multiple times.) -- Jakub Wilk

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Daniel Stender
On 11.05.2016 22:55, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Stender writes: > >> Distributed source control management/revision control system. Known as >> being used for the Linux kernel development before Git was created. The >> now have put the code under the Apache-2.0 license. Maybe some would >> lik

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2016/05/10/5 <-- link to that discussion! On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:55 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Daniel Stender writes: > >> Distributed source control management/revision control system. Known as >> being used for the Linux kernel development before Gi

Re: Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Daniel Stender writes: > Distributed source control management/revision control system. Known as > being used for the Linux kernel development before Git was created. The > now have put the code under the Apache-2.0 license. Maybe some would > like to use this, so it would do no harm to have it

Bug#824057: ITP: bitkeeper -- source code management system

2016-05-11 Thread Daniel Stender
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniel Stender * Package name: bitkeeper Version : 7.2ce Upstream Author : Wayne Scott * URL : https://www.bitkeeper.org/ * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: C Description : source code management system

Relicensing rules (was: Re: BitKeeper)

2002-01-04 Thread Peter Makholm
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:13:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: >> OK, perhaps the relicensing rule is not non-free; I'm less sure of >> that. > > I don't think it's obvious from a casual reading of the DFSG that such a > requirement is non-free

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 01:13:13PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > OK, perhaps the relicensing rule is not non-free; I'm less sure of > that. I don't think it's obvious from a casual reading of the DFSG that such a requirement is non-free, but perhaps it should be. -- G. Branden Robinson

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > OK, perhaps the relicensing rule is not non-free; I'm less sure of > that. But the outright prohibition of certain modifications certainly > kills it. I only talked about the relicensing issues. I'm sorry it wasn't clear by my quoting (I can see

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > > > Bitkeeper is (as you note) not free. Not only the usage restrictions > > are a problem, but also the requirement that changes you make may be > > distributed

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Peter" == Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> There is nothing in the DFSG saying the a licens can't Peter> require you to give the original autor all rights to you Peter> changes. So that single part of the license I refered to Peter> does not makes it even more

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:52:01AM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > (crossposted to debian-legal for input on the license; please direct > followups to -devel or -legal as appropriate) > > Has anyone looked into packaging BitKeeper (www.bitkeeper.com)? We have a package here which w

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Makholm
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Please elaborate. There is nothing in the DFSG saying the a licens can't require you to give the original autor all rights to you changes. So that single part of the license I refered to does not makes it even more or even less non-free. -- Når folk

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Peter Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > Bitkeeper is (as you note) not free. Not only the usage restrictions > > are a problem, but also the requirement that changes you make may be > > distributed by BitOwner "under any license". >

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Peter Makholm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes: > Bitkeeper is (as you note) not free. Not only the usage restrictions > are a problem, but also the requirement that changes you make may be > distributed by BitOwner "under any license". Thats not non-free in any way. The Fre

Re: BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Has anyone looked into packaging BitKeeper (www.bitkeeper.com)? The > license[0] is obviously non-free due to usage restrictions, but people seem > to like it, and some of the licensing restrictions are arguably in defense > of othe

BitKeeper

2002-01-03 Thread Matt Zimmerman
(crossposted to debian-legal for input on the license; please direct followups to -devel or -legal as appropriate) Has anyone looked into packaging BitKeeper (www.bitkeeper.com)? The license[0] is obviously non-free due to usage restrictions, but people seem to like it, and some of the licensing