Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-04 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi, On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 01:18:33PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > Hello, > > 2013/12/3 Aurelien Jarno : > > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:43:36AM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > >> 5.2 Setup arm64 debian-ports > >> > >> > >> ⁃ arm64 setup as new bootstrapping port > >>

Aw: Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-04 Thread Steffen Möller
Hello, > That being said: becoming a DD would be ok for me, but would it be ok with > the project as well? The scope of my work would be rather limited, I think... We have non-programming DDs http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20101019 http://www.debian.org/vote/2010/vote_002 which is not exactly

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ingo Jürgensmann > Trying to convince me to become a DD is as old as running Arrakis as > second m68k buildd to Kullervo. Over 12 years now. Back then it would > have been easy: just say "Yes, I want to be a DD, here's my gpg key!" Not really, I became a DD about then and went through the ful

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ingo Jürgensmann dixit: >Because I didn't want to do any packaging at all, it became impossible >at some point until DMs and such were introduced. Somewhen I decided It’s even better now: we have “non-packaging developers”, e.g. people who work on, say, exclusively the press team. >to apply, but

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Ingo Jürgensmann
Am 03.12.2013 um 13:40 schrieb Thorsten Glaser : > I’d love to have a bit more incentive to get people like Ingo, who > has been doing m68k buildd work for, I believe, a decade, to become Hmmm, since March 2001, if my archive serves me correctly. > at least a Debian member. On the other hand, w

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 12/03/2013 01:40 PM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > I’d really like to get everyone who’s got root on the m68k buildds, > or physical access to it¹, to be a member of the project, though… I second that! Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Developer - glaub...@debian.o

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:42:56 +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 2 December 2013 23:08, Hector Oron wrote: > > 5 arm64 Debian port support > > ═══ > > > > If Debian is unable to find ARM 64-bit hardware before Jessie gets > > frozen, it likely won't be Jessie suppo

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Adam Conrad
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > 2013/12/3 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez : > > > Would this be a Qt problem related to the emulator or the the toolkit > > itself? > > That was a comment done by Canonical folks, iirc Adam Conrad, talking > from their experience on emu

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Wookey
+++ Aurelien Jarno [2013-12-03 01:56 +0100]: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:43:36AM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > > 5.2 Setup arm64 debian-ports > > > > > > ⁃ arm64 setup as new bootstrapping port > > ⁃ manual builds could be uploaded but possible lack of spac

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:30:16PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > 2013/12/3 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez : > > Hector Oron wrote: > > [snip] > >> 5.1 Enable buildd support > >> ─ > >> > >> ⁃ Fast model system (initial bootstrapping only) > >> ⁃ QEMU support (bootstrapping

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/12/3 Dmitrijs Ledkovs : > On 2 December 2013 23:08, Hector Oron wrote: >> 5 arm64 Debian port support >> ═══ >> >> If Debian is unable to find ARM 64-bit hardware before Jessie gets >> frozen, it likely won't be Jessie supported. >> >> > What is the oppor

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
>> I don't really see the point, as it is already the case. Actually most >> of the uploaders in debian-ports are non-DD, and it is something that >> should not be lost in the transfer either. > >If debian-ports is converted to official Debian service, then all the >user database is extracted from

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Thorsten Glaser
KiBi wrote: >Dmitrijs Ledkovs (2013-12-03): >> What is the opportunity cost here? Are there no machine available >> within budget? If that's the case, what's the current budget that >> Debian Project can contribute, and what's the shortage to buy ARM >> 64-bit hardware *today*? >arm64 hardware

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2013/12/3 Aurelien Jarno : > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:43:36AM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: >> 5.2 Setup arm64 debian-ports >> >> >> ⁃ arm64 setup as new bootstrapping port >> ⁃ manual builds could be uploaded but possible lack of space >> ⁃ 9 more packages

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Dmitrijs Ledkovs (2013-12-03): > On 2 December 2013 23:08, Hector Oron wrote: > > 5 arm64 Debian port support > > ═══ > > > > If Debian is unable to find ARM 64-bit hardware before Jessie gets > > frozen, it likely won't be Jessie supported. > > > > > > What is the op

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 2 December 2013 23:08, Hector Oron wrote: > 5 arm64 Debian port support > ═══ > > If Debian is unable to find ARM 64-bit hardware before Jessie gets > frozen, it likely won't be Jessie supported. > > What is the opportunity cost here? Are there no machine available

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-03 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, (Adding CC to person that done the comment) 2013/12/3 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez : > Hector Oron wrote: > [snip] >> 5.1 Enable buildd support >> ─ >> >> ⁃ Fast model system (initial bootstrapping only) >> ⁃ QEMU support (bootstrapping to the point of a buildd

Flashable image generation Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Hector Oron wrote: > 12 Flashable image generation > ═ > > 12.1 Discussion on supporting pre-installed images > ── > > ⁃ Just fix DI to work on the expected platforms. > ⁃ Document ways

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-02 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
Hector Oron wrote: [snip] > 5.1 Enable buildd support > ─ > > ⁃ Fast model system (initial bootstrapping only) > ⁃ QEMU support (bootstrapping to the point of a buildd image & > recompile it all again) > ⁃ Real hardware accessible to Debian (?) > ⁃ Qt issues m

Re: Bits from ARM porters

2013-12-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi, On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 12:43:36AM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > 5.2 Setup arm64 debian-ports > > > ⁃ arm64 setup as new bootstrapping port > ⁃ manual builds could be uploaded but possible lack of space > ⁃ 9 more packages needed for a minimal bootstrap I hav