Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > > Embedded code copies > > > There are a number of packages including source code from external > libraries, for example poppler is included in xpdf, kpdf and others. To > ensure that we don't miss any vulnera

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Francesco, * Francesco P. Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 11:08]: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > > > > Embedded code copies > > > > > > There are a number of packages including source code from external > > libraries, for exam

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > Embedded code copies > > There are a number of packages including source code from external > libraries, for example poppler is included in xpdf, kpdf and others. To > ensure that we don't miss any vulnerabiliti

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:06:32AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 11:38:35PM +0200, Stefan Fritsch wrote: > > > > Embedded code copies > > > > > > There are a number of packages including source code from external > > libraries, for example pop

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Yes true but in most cases the code base is nearly the same > and we can check this without knowing ;) > > > I wonder if in those special cases an Embed: tag could be added in > > debian/control to help tracking things. > > That w

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:29:16AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > So, question, do you want to have reports also of missing pieces of > statically linked code snippets in that list? On request of Steffen Joeris I'm following up here with a chat log between we two: (15:34:40) white: hi (15

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Francesco, * Francesco P. Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 16:05]: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > > > Yes true but in most cases the code base is nearly the same > > and we can check this without knowing ;) > > > > > I wonder if in those special cas

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Luis Matos
Nico Golde escreveu: Hi Francesco, * Francesco P. Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 16:05]: On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:20:02AM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: Yes true but in most cases the code base is nearly the same and we can check this without knowing ;) I wonder if in t

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 04:17:35PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > > > I wonder if in those special cases an Embed: tag could be > > > > added in > > > > debian/control to help tracking things. > > > > > > That would be a nice thing, also if this would include > > > information if the code is real

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Ian Jackson
Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > Yes, dpkg for example links statically against libbz2 and zlib just to > pick a famous example. IMO this is a mistake, and I hope it will be reversed soon ... Ian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] w

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Ian, * Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 19:59]: > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > > Yes, dpkg for example links statically against libbz2 and zlib just to > > pick a famous example. > > IMO this is a mistake

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:48:02PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Hi Ian, > * Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 19:59]: > > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > > > Yes, dpkg for example links statically against libbz2 and zlib

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 09:08:06PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:48:02PM +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > > Hi Ian, > > * Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-10-15 19:59]: > > > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team&quo

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
On 2007-10-15, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 11:29:16AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: >> So, question, do yo

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:40:01PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On 2007-10-15, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> So, question, do you want to have reports also of missing pieces of > >> statically linked code snippets in that list? > > Yes, this list has always included apps

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 12:20:52AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:40:01PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > On 2007-10-15, Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> So, question, do you want to have reports also of missing pieces of > > >> statically

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-15 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 15/10/2007 Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > > I wonder if in those special cases an Embed: tag could be added > > > in > > > debian/control to help tracking things. > > > > That would be a nice thing, also if this would include > > information if the code is really included or just > > sta

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Well, I would consider statically linking a non embedded (i.e. a packaged) >> library a bug... Are there known cases where this is a required condition? > > cryptsetup is statically linked against libgcrypt and libgpg-error, as > both are in /usr/lib, a

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-16 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 08:02:15PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Anyway having a way to distinguish source-embedded by statically-linked > > would be useful. IMHO the second case is almost always an error, but > > for special cases (static linked shell for instance). > > > Additionally, pac

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-16 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 16/10/2007 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > >> Well, I would consider statically linking a non embedded (i.e. a packaged) > >> library a bug... Are there known cases where this is a required condition? > > > > cryptsetup is statically linked against libgcrypt and libgpg-error, as > > both are in /usr/

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-16 Thread Ian Jackson
Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > quoting Adam Heath from #debian-devel: Thanks for passing that on. > 2007-10-15 18:07 dpkg's configure has an option for using > shared libraries or static linking > 2007-10-15

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-16 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 02:34:36PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Nico Golde writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > > quoting Adam Heath from #debian-devel: > > Thanks for passing that on. > > > 2007-10-15 18:07 dpkg&#

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-17 Thread Ian Jackson
Kurt Roeckx writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > Decompression is typicly something that is i/o bound, not cpu bound. If the package is stored on disk and not in buffer cache. However, in many cases the package will have been just downloaded and so on a big memory m

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-17 Thread Roland Mas
Ian Jackson, 2007-10-17 15:00:55 +0100 : [...] > And if there is no good reason to have the decompressors bound in > then having that facility wired into the code is just extra > complexity to no useful purpose. I thought the ability to just copy one binary (/usr/bin/dpkg) from one box to anothe

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 03:00:55PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > > Indeed on modern multicore systems running the decompression in a > > > separate process allows it to be run on a separate CPU, in parallel to > > > the other processing done by dpkg proper. So it might be faster. > > > > > > (I ha

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2007-10-19 Thread Ian Jackson
Roland Mas writes ("Re: Bits from the Testing Security team"): > I thought the ability to just copy one binary (/usr/bin/dpkg) from one > box to another and be able to use it right away was precisely the goal > of static linking in that case. You still get that, unless the poi

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2008-01-16 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > cryptsetup is at least one binary in /sbin which depends on libgcrypt > and libgpg-error. If i got it right, that should be enough to move the > libs to /lib, correct? > > Maybe I should file withlist bugs, and stop building cryptsetup > statically as soo

Re: Bits from the Testing Security team

2008-01-17 Thread Jonas Meurer
On 16/01/2008 Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Jonas Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > cryptsetup is at least one binary in /sbin which depends on libgcrypt > > and libgpg-error. If i got it right, that should be enough to move the > > libs to /lib, correct? > > > > Maybe I should file withlist bu